New details emerge about Texas outlet mall shooter as investigators continue to probe for motive

[onthedarkside]

 

Garcia, 33, who was killed on the scene by an Allen police officer who was on a call nearby when the shooting started, was wearing an insignia that authorities believe may be associated with extremist groups, the source said.

 

Investigators have also unearthed an extensive social media presence, including neo-Nazi and White supremacist-related posts and images that authorities believe Garcia shared online, according to the source.

 

Garcia opened fire Saturday afternoon at the Allen Premium Outlets, where employees, shoppers and families with small children scrambled to take cover as he moved through the mall complex, authorities said.

 

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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/08/us/allen-texas-mall-shooting-gunman-monday/index.html

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

There was a time when we had to rely on Godwin’s Law for discussions to arrive at a probability of Nazi’s being mentioned rising to 100%.

 

These days news of atrocities and other crimes committed by rightwing extremists in the  US start off with a baseline of them being Nazi sympathizers.

[Tug]

Another wanna be Nazi a domestic terrorist egged on by right wing media and politicians ugly indeed 

[Bkk Brian]

Lots more details emerging about this extreme right wing loon.

 

He was in the US Army for just 3 months before thrown him out. 

 

"An account run by the suspect on a Russia-based social network seen by BBC News includes pictures of Nazi swastikas and SS tattoos, other posts glorifying Nazis, and rambling messages about violence."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65527487

 

He was a big fan of a twitter account @libsoftiktok and signed off on one of his posts with "Heil Hitler"

 

Boxes of ammo he bought before the shooting spree:

 

 

Lots more details and pics from Bellingcat author:

 

https://twitter.com/AricToler

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

14 hours ago, onthedarkside said:

Investigators have also unearthed an extensive social media presence, including neo-Nazi and White supremacist-related posts and images that authorities believe Garcia shared online, according to the source.

So this Latino guy is a non-white white supremacist? I'm wondering if there is a more logical (and less politically favourable for the usual team) explanation for this horrific crime? Don't need to search far....

 

"Many of his posts referenced his mental health. In his final post, he lamented what his family might say and wrote that no psychologist would have been able to fix him."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-mall-shooter-shared-extremist-beliefs-jews-women-apparent-social-rcna83336

 

I wonder why certain media would ignore the crucial mental health angle and instead being divisive and trying to score cheap points? hmmm

 

 

[jerrymahoney]

3 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So this Latino guy is a non-white white supremacist?

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Tarrio

 

Henry "Enrique" Tarrio ... born 1984 or 1985 is an American far-right activist. From 2018 to 2021, he was the chairman of the Proud Boys, a neo-fascist, exclusively male organization that promotes and engages in political violence in the United States. Along with three other Proud Boys leaders, Tarrio was convicted on May 4, 2023, of seditious conspiracy, for his role in the 2021 United States Capitol attack.

[Bkk Brian]

25 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So this Latino guy is a non-white white supremacist? I'm wondering if there is a more logical (and less politically favourable for the usual team) explanation for this horrific crime? Don't need to search far....

 

"Many of his posts referenced his mental health. In his final post, he lamented what his family might say and wrote that no psychologist would have been able to fix him."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-mall-shooter-shared-extremist-beliefs-jews-women-apparent-social-rcna83336

 

I wonder why certain media would ignore the crucial mental health angle and instead being divisive and trying to score cheap points? hmmm

 

 

So this Latino guy is a non-white white supremacist?

 

Be educated on the matter: 

The rise of white nationalist Hispanics

The U.S. trend, fueled over the course of Donald Trump's presidency and the pandemic, extends beyond movement leaders to a broader network of participants, some of whom have faced hate crimes charges.

https://www.axios.com/2022/03/10/rise-white-nationalist-hispanics-latinos

 

"I wonder why certain media would ignore the crucial mental health angle and instead being divisive and trying to score cheap points? hmmm"

 

Did you click on the BBC link where it mentions his mental health from his discharge in the US army? Apparently not.

 

As for his social media posts, they are all in the BellingCat twitter link I posted if you scroll the threads there.

[bamnutsak]

During Gov. Abott's interview on Fox about this incident, that network showed the results of their own recent poll on proposals to reduce gun violence.

 

 

 

[JemJem]

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There was a time when we had to rely on Godwin’s Law for discussions to arrive at a probability of Nazi’s being mentioned rising to 100%.

 

These days news of atrocities and other crimes committed by rightwing extremists in the  US start off with a baseline of them being Nazi sympathizers.

Yes. In the US at least, right-wing extremists have overtaken Islamist extremists as the most dangerous terrorist group/individuals.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Often seems those who went in the Defence Forces and couldn't hack it for whatever reason have a point to prove. Add being in a country where you can seemingly easily buy such high powered weapons and it is a recipe for disaster. 

[Hanaguma]

28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So this Latino guy is a non-white white supremacist?

 

Be educated on the matter: 

The rise of white nationalist Hispanics

The U.S. trend, fueled over the course of Donald Trump's presidency and the pandemic, extends beyond movement leaders to a broader network of participants, some of whom have faced hate crimes charges.

https://www.axios.com/2022/03/10/rise-white-nationalist-hispanics-latinos

 

"I wonder why certain media would ignore the crucial mental health angle and instead being divisive and trying to score cheap points? hmmm"

 

Did you click on the BBC link where it mentions his mental health from his discharge in the US army? Apparently not.

 

As for his social media posts, they are all in the BellingCat twitter link I posted if you scroll the threads there.

You see a picture of Mauricio Garcia? Not exactly a "white" hispanic...  the gang tatoos might give you a hint about it.  

 

He was so white nationalist that he went to a tony shopping mall in a city that is less than 10% black to do his crime. It may be that he was racist and bigoted, but trying to tie this to so-called white nationalism is ludicrous, at least without some concrete evidence.  

[Chomper Higgot]

44 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You see a picture of Mauricio Garcia? Not exactly a "white" hispanic...  the gang tatoos might give you a hint about it.  

 

He was so white nationalist that he went to a tony shopping mall in a city that is less than 10% black to do his crime. It may be that he was racist and bigoted, but trying to tie this to so-called white nationalism is ludicrous, at least without some concrete evidence.  

Apart from the fact he was a rightwing white supremacist with the white nationalist and Nazi sympathies bolt package.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

You see a picture of Mauricio Garcia? Not exactly a "white" hispanic...  the gang tatoos might give you a hint about it.  

 

He was so white nationalist that he went to a tony shopping mall in a city that is less than 10% black to do his crime. It may be that he was racist and bigoted, but trying to tie this to so-called white nationalism is ludicrous, at least without some concrete evidence.  

Yes thanks, seen plenty of pictures of the right wing, white nationalist loon in the links I've already posted. You've obviously not thought of clicking them. 

 

I can sense your shock but straight from the horses mouth so to speak. Link provided earlier....................................

 

 

 

[onthedarkside]

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[Tug]

I was watching cnn today they were  talking about how some of the parents of kids shot by these mass murdering criminals want their post mortem pictures published to goad these republican cowards into doing their jobs it’s horrible to lose the kids and I cannot imagine the anger and anguish that would drive a parent to even consider it …………

[bamnutsak]

8 minutes ago, Tug said:

I was watching cnn today they were  talking about how some of the parents of kids shot by these mass murdering criminals want their post mortem pictures published to goad these republican cowards into doing their jobs it’s horrible to lose the kids and I cannot imagine the anger and anguish that would drive a parent to even consider it …………

Following the lead of Emmett Till's mother?

 

 

Emmett Till’s mother declined an offer from the mortician to “touch up” her son’s body, and she made the decision to have an open casket funeral. “I think everybody needed to know what had happened to Emmett Till,” she said. Mamie's decision would make her son's death a touchstone for a generation. At a church on the South Side of Chicago, Emmett Till's mutilated body would be on display for all to see. Fifty thousand people in Chicago saw Emmett Till's corpse with their own eyes. When the magazine Jet ran photos of the body, black Americans across the country shuddered.

 

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/emmett-tills-funeral/

 

[Tug]

47 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Following the lead of Emmett Till's mother?

 

 

Emmett Till’s mother declined an offer from the mortician to “touch up” her son’s body, and she made the decision to have an open casket funeral. “I think everybody needed to know what had happened to Emmett Till,” she said. Mamie's decision would make her son's death a touchstone for a generation. At a church on the South Side of Chicago, Emmett Till's mutilated body would be on display for all to see. Fifty thousand people in Chicago saw Emmett Till's corpse with their own eyes. When the magazine Jet ran photos of the body, black Americans across the country shuddered.

 

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/emmett-tills-funeral/

 

Exactly to shame the republican law makers into doing their jobs

Edited May 9, 2023 by Tug

[bamnutsak]

1 minute ago, Tug said:

Exactly to shame the republican law makers to do their jobs

The anti-abortion zealots love to show photos of aborted fetuses.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Exactly to shame the republican law makers into doing their jobs

Shame?

[Skallywag]

Americans have been arguing over the 2nd amendment for years,  Simple fix to mass shootings is to treat bullets like antibiotics.  You want protection using a gun, OK, you get 6-8 bullets per family, not per gun or not per person,  End of argument on gun control.

Same with families who shoot deer or elk for food.  

[candide]

6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I wonder why certain media would ignore the crucial mental health angle and instead being divisive and trying to score cheap points? hmmm

Which media are ignoring this angle?

[Bkk Brian]

Whack job Marjorie Taylor Greene getting it wrong again with her gang affiliation suggestion on his hand tattoo. 

 

No, that isn't a gang tattoo on the suspected Allen shooter's hand

U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a frequent conspiracy theorist on social media, tweeted that the suspect "appears Hispanic with what looks like a gang tattoo on his hand." 

Law enforcement sources told WFAA that their investigation has not yielded any information showing that Garcia had any gang ties at all. 

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/did-the-allen-texas-outlet-mall-shooting-suspected-shooter-have-a-gang-tattoo-on-his-hand/287-ac67de7a-57a8-4b4a-a37e-b38a04566306

 

 

 

[billd766]

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So this Latino guy is a non-white white supremacist? I'm wondering if there is a more logical (and less politically favourable for the usual team) explanation for this horrific crime? Don't need to search far....

 

"Many of his posts referenced his mental health. In his final post, he lamented what his family might say and wrote that no psychologist would have been able to fix him."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-mall-shooter-shared-extremist-beliefs-jews-women-apparent-social-rcna83336

 

I wonder why certain media would ignore the crucial mental health angle and instead being divisive and trying to score cheap points? hmmm

 

 

I wonder why you completely ignore the FACT that he murdered 8 people, some of them children. He took their human rights, their lives, the lives of their families and friends away and all you seem to care about is the shooters mental health.

 

TBH you make me want to vomit.

Edited May 9, 2023 by billd766
changed some text

[bamnutsak]

2 hours ago, Skallywag said:

You want protection using a gun, OK, you get 6-8 bullets per family, not per gun or not per person,  End of argument on gun control.

Yeah, in la-la land.

 

BTW, I actually like hearing these sorts of ideas, and would certainly throw this into the discussion mix.

 

But, good luck arguing that position with the current Supreme Court.

 

Limiting access to ammunition would constitute an "infringement".

 

 

[onthedarkside]

Another troll post removed from the same poster. Response to it also removed

[Purdey]

The 2nd amendment mentions the right to bear arms. Nowhere are bullets mentioned. Seems like a mistake. As Chris Rock once said, make the bullets $5,000 each.

 

As they say, guns don't kill people, people kill people. But I think guns have something to do with it.

Item                        Primary Use

Car                         Transportation

Knife                      Cooking

Gun                        Killing, killing and only killing

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On 5/9/2023 at 7:08 AM, Hanaguma said:

You see a picture of Mauricio Garcia? Not exactly a "white" hispanic...  the gang tatoos might give you a hint about it.  

 

He was so white nationalist that he went to a tony shopping mall in a city that is less than 10% black to do his crime. It may be that he was racist and bigoted, but trying to tie this to so-called white nationalism is ludicrous, at least without some concrete evidence.  

One tiny problem with your post is that there's plenty of evidence that he did subscribe to white naitonalist and neo-nazi ideology:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65539698