Popular Post onthedarkside Posted June 2, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2023 Nearly two thirds of voters believe Brexit has contributed to runaway inflation and soaring food prices that have left the UK mired in a cost of living crisis, exclusive polling suggests. A majority (63 per cent) believe Brexit has had a negative impact on food prices in the supermarket and the broader cost of living (60 per cent), the BMG Research for i showed. A large number of Leave voters also believe leaving the EU has contributed to surging food costs (42 per cent), and the cost of living (36 per cent), although many also believe it has had no impact on supermarket prices (39 per cent) or inflation (43 per cent). READ MORE https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-blamed-rising-food-prices-voters-poll-2383242 1 1 2
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted June 2, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) HAHAHA... the masses will believe anything... don't they know that food prices and cost of living have risen in the Union as well... mismanagement by career politicians is the problem throughout the world. Edited June 2, 2023 by Skipalongcassidy 4 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted June 3, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said: HAHAHA... the masses will believe anything... don't they know that food prices and cost of living have risen in the Union as well... mismanagement by career politicians is the problem throughout the world. Here's some cheery news from the Dept. of Making Things Worse: Brexit red tape to send UK food prices soaring even higher. A new system of border checks on goods arriving from Europe is expected to force rocketing U.K. food prices even higher as businesses grapple with hundreds of millions of pounds in extra fees. British business groups last week got sight of the U.K. government’s long-awaited post-Brexit border plans, via a series of consultations. One person in attendance said the proposals will “substantially increase food costs” for consumers from January. https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-business-fear-brexit-checks-food-price-inflation/ Edited June 3, 2023 by placeholder 4 2
Popular Post placeholder Posted June 3, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said: HAHAHA... the masses will believe anything... don't they know that food prices and cost of living have risen in the Union as well... mismanagement by career politicians is the problem throughout the world. A good example to support your argument is the referendu victory of Brexiters in 2016. 1 1 1 2
Skipalongcassidy Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 23 hours ago, placeholder said: Here's some cheery news from the Dept. of Making Things Worse: Brexit red tape to send UK food prices soaring even higher. A new system of border checks on goods arriving from Europe is expected to force rocketing U.K. food prices even higher as businesses grapple with hundreds of millions of pounds in extra fees. British business groups last week got sight of the U.K. government’s long-awaited post-Brexit border plans, via a series of consultations. One person in attendance said the proposals will “substantially increase food costs” for consumers from January. https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-business-fear-brexit-checks-food-price-inflation/ This problem is not so much about brexit as it is about mismanagement... no viable system in place
herfiehandbag Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/3/2023 at 6:59 AM, Skipalongcassidy said: HAHAHA... the masses will believe anything... don't they know that food prices and cost of living have risen in the Union as well... mismanagement by career politicians is the problem throughout the world. I imagine that if you were to survey Manchester United Football Club supporters, many would declare the view that Brexit was a significant factor in Manchester City Football Club beating them in the FA Cup final yesterday. It's all in the question you ask! 1 1
youreavinalaff Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/3/2023 at 1:59 AM, placeholder said: Here's some cheery news from the Dept. of Making Things Worse: Brexit red tape to send UK food prices soaring even higher. A new system of border checks on goods arriving from Europe is expected to force rocketing U.K. food prices even higher as businesses grapple with hundreds of millions of pounds in extra fees. British business groups last week got sight of the U.K. government’s long-awaited post-Brexit border plans, via a series of consultations. One person in attendance said the proposals will “substantially increase food costs” for consumers from January. https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-business-fear-brexit-checks-food-price-inflation/ A report predicting the future based on views from " one in attendance". ???????????? 2
Popular Post RayC Posted June 4, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: This problem is not so much about brexit as it is about mismanagement... no viable system in place But we were told that Brexit was 'oven ready' in early 2020. 2 1
ozimoron Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: This problem is not so much about brexit as it is about mismanagement... no viable system in place Best argument for not leaving until it was in place. 1
ozimoron Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 Brexit was a “historic economic error” which has helped fuel high inflation in the UK, the former US Treasury chief Larry Summers has said. Mr Summers said Brexit and other policies mean Britain’s economic woes are “frankly more acute than they are in most other major countries.” “Brexit will be remembered as a historic economic error that reduced the competitiveness of the UK economy, put downward pressure on the pound and upward pressure on prices, limited import goods and limited in some ways the supply of labour,” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-economy-inflation-summers-b2349634.html 1
Caldera Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) First those idiots ("the majority of voters") voted for Brexit and now they complain that they cannot afford to buy food anymore? Oh the irony, that's what happens when you listen to a fraudster like Boris. Edited June 4, 2023 by Caldera 2
James105 Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 2 hours ago, ozimoron said: Brexit was a “historic economic error” which has helped fuel high inflation in the UK, the former US Treasury chief Larry Summers has said. Mr Summers said Brexit and other policies mean Britain’s economic woes are “frankly more acute than they are in most other major countries.” “Brexit will be remembered as a historic economic error that reduced the competitiveness of the UK economy, put downward pressure on the pound and upward pressure on prices, limited import goods and limited in some ways the supply of labour,” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-economy-inflation-summers-b2349634.html What does this US economist use as the reason the USA has about the same inflation as the UK then? Considering most countries that had monumentally stupid covid lockdown policies and are suffering from the same kind of inflation I find it quite incredible that covid lockdowns are always given a free pass and something else is blamed. 1
placeholder Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, James105 said: What does this US economist use as the reason the USA has about the same inflation as the UK then? Considering most countries that had monumentally stupid covid lockdown policies and are suffering from the same kind of inflation I find it quite incredible that covid lockdowns are always given a free pass and something else is blamed. The answer to your question is simple. This U.S. econonomist uses no "reason that the USA has about the same inflation as the UK then". And that's because this US economist knows the US does not have about the same rate of inflation as does the UK.,He knows that In April, 2023, the US monthly inflation rate was 4.9%. He also knows that In the UK in April the monthly inflation rate was 8.7%. 1 1
ozimoron Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 2 hours ago, James105 said: What does this US economist use as the reason the USA has about the same inflation as the UK then? Considering most countries that had monumentally stupid covid lockdown policies and are suffering from the same kind of inflation I find it quite incredible that covid lockdowns are always given a free pass and something else is blamed. Link to US inflation being similar to the UK please.
JustAnotherHun Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 Brexit is to blame for rising food prices? Really? Then thank good, Germany did not something similar. So we can enjoy a slightly rise of only 17.2% (food prices data 04/23 compared to 04/22). 1 1
ozimoron Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said: Brexit is to blame for rising food prices? Really? Then thank good, Germany did not something similar. So we can enjoy a slightly rise of only 17.2% (food prices data 04/23 compared to 04/22). My understanding is the reason inflation is so high in Germany is because of a high reliance on natural gas as opposed to the UK which has a lot more nuclear power. One major reason for UK food inflation being so high is labour shortages which meant that crops could not be harvested. Does Germany have that same lack of labour issue? Furthermore, I think Germany's food price inflation is falling now while the UK is rising. Edited June 4, 2023 by ozimoron 2
Myran Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 I recently spilled wine on one of my favourite T-shirts. Damn Brexit!
ozimoron Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Myran said: I recently spilled wine on one of my favourite T-shirts. Damn Brexit! It sounds like you didn't spill all of it. 1
it is what it is Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 Brexit blamed for rising food prices by a majority of voters, poll shows people who don't know what they are talking about. next. 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 4, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, it is what it is said: Brexit blamed for rising food prices by a majority of voters, poll shows people who don't know what they are talking about. next. If you knew you'd be able to tell us how it isn't a major contributor instead of just a troll comment. 3 1
vinny41 Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 10 Countries on the European continent with higher food Inflation than the UK some countries within the EU some countries outside the EU https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/food-inflation?continent=europe 1
Popular Post Chelseafan Posted June 4, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 4, 2023 I have a little knowledge as I am a food buyer for a major global retailer. Brexit certainly hasn't helped and has defintely added to costs. Both vendors and retailers have additional paperwork to complete which was inevitable but one of the biggest hikes is on freight. There are still delays at border control and European freight hauliers don't really want to deliver to the UK and if they do then they asking for silly money to cover their lost hours. But Brexit is only part of the issue. Production costs are still sky-high although we are seeing a slight tapering in electricity costs. There is still reduced avaibility for some commodity items, think wheat for example. Wages are also increasing faster than they have for a long while. Lastly some of the big blue chip suppliers are pushing through stupid increases some as high as 40% particuarly on lines where there they have little or no competition 3
vinny41 Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: My understanding is the reason inflation is so high in Germany is because of a high reliance on natural gas as opposed to the UK which has a lot more nuclear power. One major reason for UK food inflation being so high is labour shortages which meant that crops could not be harvested. Does Germany have that same lack of labour issue? Furthermore, I think Germany's food price inflation is falling now while the UK is rising. Germany has the same Labour shortages as every other country both in unskilled and skilled markets Labour shortages following the pandemic have increased most and are most severe in jobs with lower wages and poorer conditions. https://www.socialeurope.eu/not-so-much-a-shortage-of-skills-as-a-shortage-of-pay "Germany will lack 7 million workers by 2035 if we don't do something," the country's labor minister, Hubertus Heil, told the Financial Times this week. He shares the belief of many business leaders that the shortage will soon start to sap German growth if it hasn't started already. https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-economic-time-bomb-the-labor-crisis/a-65522919 Most parents I know drill into their children at an early age the importance of working hard at school to gain sufficient qualifications for a good job or university In the 60s people were leaving school and thinking about working as a hairdresser or office job ( mainly girls) or construction ( boys) at the time there were media articles about Super Hod and Bricklayers earning £1,000 per day
candide Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, vinny41 said: 10 Countries on the European continent with higher food Inflation than the UK some countries within the EU some countries outside the EU https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/food-inflation?continent=europe Of course, if you compare with Latvia, etc... ???? Take out Eastern European countries and Turkey, UK food inflation is higher than any other countries Uk: 19% EU: 16.41% Eurozone: 15% Edited June 4, 2023 by candide 1
vinny41 Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, candide said: Of course, if you compare with Latvia, etc... ???? Take out Eastern European countries and Turkey, UK food inflation is higher than any other countries Uk: 19% EU: 16.41% Eurozone: 15% Why are you taking out EU countries Hungary 39% Slovakia 25.4% Estonia 23.4% Serbia 23.1% Lithuania 21.9% Latvia 20.2% Romania 19.84% Poland 19.7% And if we look at the figures for April Germany 21.2% Sweden 19.65% Portugal 19.57% and finally European Union 19.17% which was higher than the UK April 19.1%
Chomper Higgot Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Why are you taking out EU countries Hungary 39% Slovakia 25.4% Estonia 23.4% Serbia 23.1% Lithuania 21.9% Latvia 20.2% Romania 19.84% Poland 19.7% And if we look at the figures for April Germany 21.2% Sweden 19.65% Portugal 19.57% and finally European Union 19.17% which was higher than the UK April 19.1% Let’s remove any doubt. Here’s the relevant Brexit lie: https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/831450/Jacob-Rees-Mogg-Brexit-food-wine-clothes-shoes-lower-20-per-cent/amp 1
vinny41 Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Let’s remove any doubt. Here’s the relevant Brexit lie: https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/831450/Jacob-Rees-Mogg-Brexit-food-wine-clothes-shoes-lower-20-per-cent/amp You haven't prove anything as we can see Food inflation for the European Union in April was 19.17% which was higher than the UK April 19.1% This article explains some of the reasons behind higherFood inflation such as high energy costs during the winter months and Some food inflation remains “unexplained” due to catch-up profit-taking. This could stem from firms in the food sector making up for the difficult months between March and June 2022. https://www.allianz.com/en/economic_research/publications/specials_fmo/europe-food-inflation.html
ozimoron Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, vinny41 said: You haven't prove anything as we can see Food inflation for the European Union in April was 19.17% which was higher than the UK April 19.1% This article explains some of the reasons behind higherFood inflation such as high energy costs during the winter months and Some food inflation remains “unexplained” due to catch-up profit-taking. This could stem from firms in the food sector making up for the difficult months between March and June 2022. https://www.allianz.com/en/economic_research/publications/specials_fmo/europe-food-inflation.html You having a lend of us expecting us to swallow that. Lumping Turkey in with 54% is a joke. https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/food-inflation?continent=europe Edited June 4, 2023 by ozimoron 1
vinny41 Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, ozimoron said: You having a lend of us expecting us to swallow that. Lumping Turkey in with 54% is a joke. https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/food-inflation?continent=europe My original post stated "10 Countries on the European continent with higher food Inflation than the UK" Turkey is listed as part of the European continent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe#List_of_states_and_territories
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