14 $billion and counting. It's a train wreck. Wasn't Afghanistan/Iraq enough for you people??? 

"will be here for as long as it takes."

 

for Putin to destroy Ukraine. 

8 minutes ago, morrobay said:

14 $billion and counting. It's a train wreck. Wasn't Afghanistan/Iraq enough for you people??? 

Did you mean the Afghanistan that was also invaded by Russia?

Was interesting to hear him speak so eloquently, as a country's leader should be able to do. 

7 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Did you mean the Afghanistan that was also invaded by Russia?

Yes and not such a winding road to Ukraine

33 minutes ago, morrobay said:

14 $billion and counting. It's a train wreck. Wasn't Afghanistan/Iraq enough for you people??? 

https://theconversation.com/us-military-spending-in-ukraine-reached-nearly-50-billion-in-2022-but-no-amount-of-money-alone-is-enough-to-end-the-war-197492

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Yes and not such a winding road to Ukraine

Who helped kick the Russians out of Afghanistan, with the help of the Afghanis?

".. as long as it takes"

 

As long as what takes, exactly? Have any of these dim bulbs figured out an exit strategy? Biden has no answer to that, and Rasheed Sanuk has no idea, either.

 

These people are toddlers playing with fire, given that the threat of nuclear war is still in play.

 

 

 

I just got an email from President Putin. He said that after hearing Rushi Sunak speak, he's going to withdraw all his forces this evening. That's that then. All over. Just like that. 

 

 

Almost forgot. ???? ????

26 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Who helped kick the Russians out of Afghanistan, with the help of the Afghanis?

Could care less about the Russians in Afghanistan. And did you forget how arming Bin Laden and al queda worked out - 9/11. And could care less about the Russians in Ukraine. It is going to end with Russia getting about a third of Ukraine anyway. Just another waste of $ billions for the military industrial complex.  Look Hoss, don't have time for history lessons. 

 

29 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

".. as long as it takes"

 

As long as what takes, exactly? Have any of these dim bulbs figured out an exit strategy? Biden has no answer to that, and Rasheed Sanuk has no idea, either.

 

These people are toddlers playing with fire, given that the threat of nuclear war is still in play.

 

For some people wars bring enormous gains. First the taxpayers pay for the war and then for reconstruction. And much of the tax money just disappears in some pockets. Nobody will check this. So why stop it?! Because poor souls die every day? These "heroes" never benefited much in any war...

How far do you people want to take this??. Let Putin have part of Ukraine. So what. 

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

How far do you people want to take this??. Let Putin have part of Ukraine. So what. 

Are you aware that RT is Kremlin's self-admitted international propaganda and misinformation machine?

RT is banned in numerous countries for good reason. You might want to reconsider getting your information from them.

 

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RT has regularly been described as a major propaganda outlet for the Russian government and its foreign policy. Academics, fact-checkers, and news reporters (including some current and former RT reporters) have identified RT as a purveyor of disinformation and conspiracy theories. UK media regulator Ofcom has repeatedly found RT to have breached its rules on impartiality, including multiple instances in which RT broadcast "materially misleading" content.

In 2012, RT's editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan compared the channel to the Russian Ministry of Defence. Referring to the Russo-Georgian War, she stated that it was "waging an information war, and with the entire Western world"

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Could care less about the Russians in Afghanistan. And did you forget how arming Bin Laden and al queda worked out - 9/11. And could care less about the Russians in Ukraine. It is going to end with Russia getting about a third of Ukraine anyway. Just another waste of $ billions for the military industrial complex.  Look Hoss, don't have time for history lessons. 

 

If you don't care, then why bother to post on the thread in the first place?

The west needs to go further.

Until Ukraine WINS.

With a definition of what that means.

On 6/9/2023 at 4:52 AM, morrobay said:

14 $billion and counting. It's a train wreck. Wasn't Afghanistan/Iraq enough for you people??? 

There’s a big difference Ukraine asked for help from the west,obviously the west can see this a war of conquest and theft executed in a viscous unprofessional blundering manner by a despot.they (the west see it for what it is they ain’t having it.14 billion is a bargain as far as the expenditure of treasure what can’t be replaced is the lives lost and the grief that sir rests solely with the criminal despot who started it

41 minutes ago, Tug said:

There’s a big difference Ukraine asked for help from the west,obviously the west can see this a war of conquest and theft executed in a viscous unprofessional blundering manner by a despot.they (the west see it for what it is they ain’t having it.14 billion is a bargain as far as the expenditure of treasure what can’t be replaced is the lives lost and the grief that sir rests solely with the criminal despot who started it

Actually it's a 75 $ Billion trainwreck. Let the Europeans take care of it . It's their problem. Does crumbling infrastructure, shabby international airports, inner city degradation, an invasion on the Southern border because funding was blocked for the WALL. Less important than another Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq????.  I'm otta here. You  pro military industrial complex  people knock yourselves out with this nonsense. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/heres-how-much-aid-the-u-s-has-sent-to-ukraine

17 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Actually it's a 75 $ Billion trainwreck. Let the Europeans take care of it . It's their problem.

Why would the Europeans have to take care about something that was instigated, and forced down their throat, by the democrats of the US of America?

18 minutes ago, BenStark said:

Why would the Europeans have to take care about something that was instigated, and forced down their throat, by the democrats of the US of America?

Referring to the 2014 coup in Ukraine that replaced the pro Russian government with a far right government. Well it was also the Europeans besides the Obama administration that started this

https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy

8 hours ago, BenStark said:

Why would the Europeans have to take care about something that was instigated, and forced down their throat, by the democrats of the US of America?

American democrats invaded Ukraine lmao ???? your thug Putin invaded Ukraine using the exact same bs excuse herr hitler used I might add this time around the worlds Democracy’s decided not to let history repeat itself slava Ukraine ???????? evict the criminals from your land!

8 hours ago, morrobay said:

Referring to the 2014 coup in Ukraine that replaced the pro Russian government with a far right government. Well it was also the Europeans besides the Obama administration that started this

https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy

Please reflect a moment on what you said. You just claimed that the Obama administration (amongst others) who is center-left installed a far right government in Ukraine and started this whole thing but that the US should now cut all help and leave the Europeans to sort out this huge mess.

2 hours ago, Tug said:

American democrats invaded Ukraine lmao ???? your thug Putin invaded Ukraine using the exact same bs excuse herr hitler used I might add this time around the worlds Democracy’s decided not to let history repeat itself slava Ukraine ???????? evict the criminals from your land!

You know very well what I meant, but your love for that old senile man in the US makes you blind, and yes he started the whole thing when he was still vice president, and his thug of a son is also part of it

On 6/9/2023 at 6:52 PM, morrobay said:

14 $billion and counting. It's a train wreck. Wasn't Afghanistan/Iraq enough for you people??? 

Not to mention that Ukraine is only a sideshow in Cold War II, with Xi Jinping watching how the West slowly depletes weapon arsenals...

14 hours ago, eisfeld said:

Please reflect a moment on what you said. You just claimed that the Obama administration (amongst others) who is center-left installed a far right government in Ukraine 

This is all about ' anything goes in the name of anti communism. Started after WW2 with the Nazis (the enemy of my enemy is my friend)  It's all over look at the Americas: Chile, Nicaragua. Then Vietnam. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ousted-ukraine-president-warns-of-civil-war-criticizes-us-for-aiding-current-government/2014/03/11/13fd0482-a907-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html

1 minute ago, morrobay said:

This is all about ' anything goes in the name of anti communism. Started after WW2 with the Nazis (the enemy of my enemy is my friend)  It's all over look at the Americas: Chile, Nicaragua. Then Vietnam. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ousted-ukraine-president-warns-of-civil-war-criticizes-us-for-aiding-current-government/2014/03/11/13fd0482-a907-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html

Russia wasn't communist in 2014.

Nice try. No cigar.

32 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Russia wasn't communist in 2014.

Nice try. No cigar.

I guess not but a pro Russian administration was ousted in 2014 with the help of the U. S. and replaced with a far right administration in Ukraine https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

On 6/9/2023 at 9:11 PM, morrobay said:

How far do you people want to take this??. Let Putin have part of Ukraine. So what. 

Because more than 80% of Ukrainians don't want to be occupied by the Russians and do not want to give away their own country. 

20 minutes ago, morrobay said:

I guess not but a pro Russian administration was ousted in 2014 with the help of the U. S. and replaced with a far right administration in Ukraine https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

What % of the vote did far right parties get in Ukraine's most recent elections?

21 minutes ago, morrobay said:

I guess not but a pro Russian administration was ousted in 2014 with the help of the U. S. and replaced with a far right administration in Ukraine https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

No comment about Putin stealing Crimea in 2014?