It is interesting Bill Barr, Trump's former Attorney-General, has said Trump is toast if even half the charges are proven. That is telling, given Barr was formerly a staunch ally who helped weaponise the DOJ at Trump's behest.

Trump's dog-whistles to his cretinous base are mainly aimed at wringing out more donations, as no lawyer will work for him without upfront payment.

43 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It is interesting Bill Barr, Trump's former Attorney-General, has said Trump is toast if even half the charges are proven. That is telling, given Barr was formerly a staunch ally who helped weaponise the DOJ at Trump's behest.

Trump's dog-whistles to his cretinous base are mainly aimed at wringing out more donations, as no lawyer will work for him without upfront payment.

In an interview with Roger Stone yesterday Trump called Bill Barr a gutless pig....lol

 

After attacking his former attorney general on Truth Social for his assessment that he is “toast” following his federal indictment, Donald Trump lashed out at Bill Barr three times during a sprawling interview on Roger Stone’s first radio show.

Having called him a “gutless pig” online and told his followers to switch off Fox News anytime Mr Barr is a guest, the former president kept the attacks going during his chat with Mr Stone on WABC.

 

Trump Calls For Protests Over Latest Indictment in Interview With Roger Stone

Trump is leading the charge for more unsettling riots it appears. Do his supporters even know what a non-violent protest is?

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-calls-protests-over-latest-195123973.html

 

“Our country has to protest… We’ve lost everything,” Trump said.

54 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

In an interview with Roger Stone yesterday Trump called Bill Barr a gutless pig....lol

 

After attacking his former attorney general on Truth Social for his assessment that he is “toast” following his federal indictment, Donald Trump lashed out at Bill Barr three times during a sprawling interview on Roger Stone’s first radio show.

Having called him a “gutless pig” online and told his followers to switch off Fox News anytime Mr Barr is a guest, the former president kept the attacks going during his chat with Mr Stone on WABC.

 

Trump Calls For Protests Over Latest Indictment in Interview With Roger Stone

Classic Trump strategy, attack anyone who is not a worshipper.

IIRC, Roger Stone is a convicted felon who was pardoned by Trump. It would appear Trump is running out of visual media outlets who are willing to facilitate his lies, and he's reduced to a conservative radio station.

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Classic Trump strategy, attack anyone who is not a worshipper.

IIRC, Roger Stone is a convicted felon who was pardoned by Trump. It would appear Trump is running out of visual media outlets who are willing to facilitate his lies, and he's reduced to a conservative radio station.

If he uses his own media platform to incite protests and riots he will have added one more nail in his coffin.  The man's ability to whip people up into a frenzy is his calling card. A person like that is dangerous. Reminds me of someone prior to WW2

 

If he has his way the US will be a smoking ruinous place unless the rule of law and order stops in and defends the country against his antics.

 

He is an antagonistic angry self serving gentleman.

8 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

If he uses his own media platform to incite protests and riots he will have added one more nail in his coffin.  The man's ability to whip people up into a frenzy is his calling card. A person like that is dangerous. Reminds me of someone prior to WW2

 

If he has his way the US will be a smoking ruinous place unless the rule of law and order stops in and defends the country against his antics.

 

He is an antagonistic angry self serving gentleman.

I was with you up till gentleman.

Madman more like.

21 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Trump is leading the charge for more unsettling riots it appears. Do his supporters even know what a non-violent protest is?

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-calls-protests-over-latest-195123973.html

 

“Our country has to protest… We’ve lost everything,” Trump said.

Translation 

I'm afraid of losing everything.

Most psychologists will tell you that the best indicator of future violence is past violence.   Trump has shown us that he is very much capable of unleashing unprovoked violence.   He, and he alone, discredited the 2020 election.  He started the Big Lie and he has perpetuated it.   He instigated the Jan. 6 insurrection.   

I am not sure how this will all shake down.  Whether he is nominated, wins the presidency or not, he will continue to spew the hate.  Both his ego and his finances are bolstered by the hate and division.   Violence is just a part of his playbook.   

 

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The best part of this is the idiots are on record about calling out for violence the next time they try to say they are the party of law and order call them out!

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Off-topic posts which have hijacked the OP have been removed.  This is not about Barr, Epstein or Bush.  Stay on topic which is:

 

 

‘We Need to Start Killing’: Trump’s Far-Right Supporters Are Threatening Civil War

And the Trump haters froth at the mouth again… "We've got him this time!"

 

A friendly reminder from December 2019:

 

And another one from January 2021, with a few gems from that post I copied below for your convenience:

"This impeachment is important. All hopes of a Trump return in 2024 must be extinguished now"

"And as a general rule ‘conspiracy’ to commit a crime carries twice the penalty of actually committing the crime. Lock him up!"

"And now that 45 has been muzzled and defanged, people are eager and willing to testify.  He's going down hotter and faster than the Hindenburg!"

 

Should he, lo and behold, be acquitted again this time, I will be sure to check back here to get a few valuable insights (and a good laugh).

The impeachments weren't conducted in a court of law. He was entitled to call the impeachments political as impeachments are by definition a political proceeding. This is a criminal proceeding

5 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I accuse you of not having read the indictment. 

I have read it and I know it is bogus as President Trump is covered under the Presidential Records Act.

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

I have read it and I know it is bogus as President Trump is covered under the Presidential Records Act.

Did you skip over the most serious charges which had nothing to do with NARA. These charges go well beyond NARA. Taking records in contravention of NARA would be a misdemeanour. Refusing to give them back, not so much.

 

The indictment lays out 37 federal charges against Trump, including obstruction and unlawful retention of defense information for storing dozens of classified documents at his Florida resort and refusing to return them to the FBI and the National Archives.

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/1181340894/trump-indictment-classified-documents-charges

 

An off-topic post on Trumps impeachment has been removed. 

Impeachment is a political procedure carried out in both the House and Senate.  An Indictment, such as what Trump is now under is a Criminal Procedure.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/politics/fact-check-trump-presidential-records-act-talk/index.html

 

Facts First: Trump’s claims are false. The Presidential Records Act says that, the moment a president leaves office, NARA gets custody and control of all presidential records from his administration. Nothing in the act says there should be prolonged “talk” or a negotiated “agreement” between a former president and NARA over a former president’s return of presidential documents – much less that there should have been a months-long battle after NARA first contacted Trump’s team in 2021 to try to get some of the records that had not been handed over at the end of his presidency.

 

Going back on Topic as far as his rants stirring up the people we have this

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/19/opinions/trump-call-for-protests-obeidallah/index.html

 

It isn’t the first time Trump has called for protests if he is charged with a crime. The former president began priming his base back in January 2022 when he told supporters to take to the streets if any prosecutor, anywhere, charges him — not just the Manhattan district attorney. At a campaign-style rally in Texas, Trump said: “If these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, I hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protests we have ever had in Washington, DC, in New York, in Atlanta and elsewhere.”

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

Impeachment is a political procedure carried out in both the House and Senate.  An Indictment, such as what Trump is now under is a Criminal Procedure.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/politics/fact-check-trump-presidential-records-act-talk/index.html

 

Facts First: Trump’s claims are false. The Presidential Records Act says that, the moment a president leaves office, NARA gets custody and control of all presidential records from his administration. Nothing in the act says there should be prolonged “talk” or a negotiated “agreement” between a former president and NARA over a former president’s return of presidential documents – much less that there should have been a months-long battle after NARA first contacted Trump’s team in 2021 to try to get some of the records that had not been handed over at the end of his presidency.

The Trumpians are trying to push the line that the president gets to decide what are presidential records and what are not. I can't imagine that national defense briefings provided by the pentagon aren't presidential records, even if Trump doesn't want them to be. Trump doesn't get to break the law for his own benefit, even as president. Nixon found that out.

14 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Trump is leading the charge for more unsettling riots it appears. Do his supporters even know what a non-violent protest is?

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-calls-protests-over-latest-195123973.html

 

“Our country has to protest… We’ve lost everything,” Trump said.

You mean non-violent protests like this?

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

You mean non-violent protests like this?

Yup thanks for reminding all normal people of just why trump belongs in the penitentiary trying to rig the election trying to stoke racial tensions trying to (govern) outside the constitution yup he certainly angered the VAST majority of Americans especially the ones that don’t feed themselves a diet of fake news (Fox) and the like normal Americans are plenty angry.now the DOJ is about to (if I may) de fang trump and hopefully put that man in the penitentiary were he belongs 

18 minutes ago, Tug said:

Yup thanks for reminding all normal people of just why trump belongs in the penitentiary trying to rig the election trying to stoke racial tensions trying to (govern) outside the constitution yup he certainly angered the VAST majority of Americans especially the ones that don’t feed themselves a diet of fake news (Fox) and the like normal Americans are plenty angry.now the DOJ is about to (if I may) de fang trump and hopefully put that man in the penitentiary were he belongs 

What will you say if he's acquitted?

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

What will you say if he's acquitted?

If there are normal jurors he’s toast even his pet DA bill Barr says so if he’s acquitted I will be disappointed bigley 

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

What will you say if he's acquitted?

"USA is even more broken than I originally surmised. "

“SEE YOU IN MIAMI ON TUESDAY!!!” he told his followers Friday night in a Truth Social post, referring to his Tuesday arraignment.

 

It was a chilling reminder of his December 19, 2020, tweet, “Be there, will be wild!” — which inspired extremist groups to disrupt the January 6 electoral vote certification. Calls are already circulating online for a gathering outside the federal courthouse in downtown Miami.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-civil-war-2661211016/

UPDATE: ‘I Want Blood’: Heavily-Armed Trump Supporters Say They’ll Protest Trump’s Indictment

 

Supporters of former president Donald Trump are planning mass protests at a Miami courthouse on Tuesday, following Trump’s indictment last week. Many are promising to come “well-armed.”

 

“MAGA will make Waco look like a tea party,” a user with the screen name 1776take2 wrote about the planned protest on the pro-Trump messaging board known as The Donald, which was instrumental to the planning of the Capitol riot.

 

In addition to the angry comments and plans posted anonymously on far-right message boards, Republican lawmakers, politicians, and right-wing pundits have also used incendiary language about Trump’s indictment. “We have now reached a war phase. Eye for an eye,” GOP Rep. Andy Biggs tweeted to his 730,000 Twitter followers.

 

READ MORE

https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d995k/trump-indictment-armed-protests-miami

 

6 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

What will you say if he's acquitted?

But, unlike you, he won't be questioning the legitimacy of the process by invoking invalid use of the Presidential Records Act.

"I have read it and I know it is bogus as President Trump is covered under the Presidential Records Act."

And what will you say if he's convicted?

I wonder what kind of plea deal the govt would offer him? And other indictments are still pending.

2 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

I wonder what kind of plea deal the govt would offer him? And other indictments are still pending.

Funny you say that. 45 recently said he WOULD accept a plea deal - on 1 condition - that the government pay him $$$ to accept it ????????????????

Apparently, Trump is having trouble finding a lawyer. Why would a billionaire have trouble finding a lawyer? LOL.