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17 minutes ago, JackGats said:

“I used to think the worst thing in life was to end up all alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is ending up with people who make you feel alone” (Robbin Williams)

I have a song in my car, which goes like this:
"Nobody wants to be lonely. But if I have to be lonely, I rather be lonely alone." 

 

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40 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Those many friends you claim to have are only acquaitances. How many would still be around if you went broke or had some serious problems? Let's call them fair-weather friends.

Aparently, you failed to read and understand my previous post.
So, not worth to discuss with.
Bye

 

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Happy with my GF and GR, and if GF ever leaves or kicks me out of my house because her husband gets too jealous, then I'll still have GR to lick my feet, fetch beer from the fridge and go for walks with (something GF isn't too keen on usually, especially the walking part).

 

Just sucks that the average lifespan of GRs is only about 10 years, but I can always get a new Golden Retriever puppy an hour after Rover has been buried (or turned into soup - hey, I'm 1/4 Chinese, it's in my genes????).

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1 hour ago, Confuscious said:

Aparently, you failed to read and understand my previous post.
So, not worth to discuss with.
Bye

 

I can only understand what you wrote, and you made the point clear that you don't think relationships can work. If that is not what you meant, then you need to improve on your comminication skills, which quite frankly leave a lot to be desired.

 

Quite happy to cease any further discussion with you.

 

Bye.

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8 hours ago, JensenZ said:

The problem might be you. I've been with the same lady for 20 years and married for 13 of them. We are still each other's best friends. 

 

Those many friends you claim to have are only acquaitances. How many would still be around if you went broke or had some serious problems? Let's call them fair-weather friends.

ah don't forget, Thai wives and girlfriends have a reputation of not staying around when the money runs out

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12 hours ago, xylophone said:

I like that, because I am the same as you by the looks of things, and I always remember something that my first and only wife (in the UK) shouted at me as we were getting divorced....... "you will end up being a lonely old man", to which I replied, "alone, maybe, but never lonely", and that's one thing she couldn't understand.

 

I more or less had to bring myself up and fend for myself from a very early age, for reasons I won't go into here, so I became very independent and that has stayed with me, and although I am alone I'm not unhappy, and I still have farang friends whom I speak to on a fairly regular basis, and occasionally like to meet up for something to eat and a wander around the nightspots here. Luckily, one friend and his Thai partner own a very lovely restaurant, so that is a reasonably frequent meeting place.

 

In addition I have made friends with various Thai folk here and especially Thai women who own massage shops, as I do like a bona fide massage (lots of old football injuries to contend with) and I do like to give them some business by frequenting them for a manicure or pedicure or even a foot massage. In addition I will often ask what they are intending to eat that evening, and then give them a few hundred baht to be able to buy what they want. Although they like Thai food, they are not averse to large pizza from across the road, which I will happily pay for.

 

I try to make friends with just about everybody with whom I interact, and that includes some of the lovely ladies who work in the supermarket here, who always call out to me when I am wandering around doing my stuff, and give me a big smile and a wave.

 

The only downside I have found is the fact that one particular farang will ask for money by way of a loan to see him through, and I did do this until I put a stop to it, saying that I was not going to be his fallback banker.

 

I am lucky in as much as when I split up with my Thai girlfriend and her 7 yr old daughter, we stayed friends, and indeed I financed them for quite a few years, and I still do for the daughter, whom I have unofficially adopted, and am putting through university, where hopefully she will become a teacher. We are in almost daily contact and I think the world of this beautiful and bright young lady, and she considers me her "real" father.

 

I think there are people in this world like me and Laccessit, and probably many others, who are quite comfortable being on their own, but for others who don't feel the same, then getting out and making new friends and acquaintances has to be a priority.
 

Good for you. I am struck by the similarities in our experiences.

I am still with my GF, and helping her grand-daughter through university. I am Khun Ta ( grandfather ) to her.

I occasionally buy food for my 61 yo regular massage lady. She loves tinned salmon.

My GF cannot stand being alone, a trait I have noticed in many Thais. Perhaps the most sociable race on the planet.

I would not say I am anti-social; however, I do like to socialize on my terms, then withdraw when I have had enough. With some people it may be an hour or so, with others 5 minutes is too much.

Stay well.

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9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

They don't like carrots that much, rabbit pellets and what they find in the garden + farmhouse wholewheat bread for treats, or a bit of apple.

 

But they're terrific cure for loneliness, and you don't have to take them out for walks.

The other advantage - rabbit poo doesn't smell like dogs and cats do.

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14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If I would feel lonely, I could just go out of the building and chat with the motorcycle riders, or some food vendors. Or I could sit in the lobby of my building. I am sure someone would talk to me.

If I would be in a village I could go to the market or a temple. Or in other places maybe I would talk with people on the beach.

Legend in Your Own Time
Song by Carly Simon
 
But you're a legend in your own time
A hero in the footlights
Playing tunes to fit your rhyme
But a legend's only a lonely boy
When he goes home alone.
Well a legend's only a lonely boy
When he goes home alone.
 
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3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I would not say I am anti-social; however, I do like to socialize on my terms, then withdraw when I have had enough. With some people it may be an hour or so, with others 5 minutes is too much.

Another trait we have in common!! You stay well too ????.

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18 hours ago, scorecard said:

I'm not trying to deny anything. Yes I have a few times been to girlie bars, in most/all cases because we had engineers or similar visiting on special assignments and they were curious to go to a girlie/escort bar.

 

They always stayed at 4/5 star hotels in Pattaya and it wouldn't surprise me if they went back to 'make a purchase', and that's their business totally, not my business at all.   

"Methinks the gentleman protests too much his innocence.." ????

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On 6/14/2023 at 7:49 PM, bogs smith said:

seems that whenever go outside now people only want money

It's always been the same, nothing has changed and if you are ugly, fat, smelly or strange it's going to cost you more.

 

I enjoy watching the Gold Digger videos, pretty girl ignores average loser guy until she sees his Ferrari, what a joke.

Every pretty female should be a gold digger, I reckon stupid if they are not 

 

It's the sad sacks, uglies, losers, the pathetic guys that are always complaining about the Gold Digger girls. I have a short, bald, fat mate, he's a whinger, a crybaby, always complaining about these girls. 

 

Instead of moping, lift yourself, get yourself fit, stay out of the bars, go to the gym, buy some nice clothes etc. 

It's easy to sit there and put out negative posts, things won't change, people with your attitude become suicidal, jump of a building or similar.

 

Might be time for you to go back to your country of citizenship and be miserable there, find a fat, nasty, smelly woman your own age and be miserable for the rest of your life. 

 

Try being positive, you'll find that your life will be so much more enjoyable. 

 

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On 6/16/2023 at 5:13 AM, scubascuba3 said:

ah don't forget, Thai wives and girlfriends have a reputation of not staying around when the money runs out

Why would the money run out?

Only those western guys fully funded should live in foreign countries.

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19 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Only those western guys fully funded should live in foreign countries.

This is the root cause, this is why we have so many moaners and complainers, most of these guys are not cashed up, they're on the aged pension or similar. 

 

The Aussie pension is a pittance and to be eligible you must be down and out, a PAUPER. 

 

I'm really struggling to understand why and how these guys would relocate to Thailand with a dismal income. They can't be enjoying themselves, not having money to go travel, shopping, restaurants, living the dream. 

 

These constant complainers are toxic, they encourage the weak to join their miserable bandwagon. 

 

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I suggest you find some activity that interests you, and do it.  I've lived in 5 countries (I'm that old) and always meet great people doing what I most enjoy doing.  
There are running clubs, local coffee shops, motorcycle/bicycle travel groups, etc.
You have to put yourself out there.

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On 6/14/2023 at 6:53 AM, BritManToo said:

I bought some rabbits, problem gone.

Great company and I can have a cuddle whenever I like in exchange for a crust of bread.

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For me it's cats.

 

The cats, we have three.

They  hate my wife, and  basically hide, wherever cats hide since you can never find them until I come from work..

 

After I'm home they play together then wrap themselves around me

 

Bedtime, I got them on my head and legs.

 

Mrs G those cats will defend me to an inch of their lives!

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Loneliness is a curious concept, which I've  never really understood

 

Strangely for my generation I'm an only child, with a Mom who was also an only child, and my Dad's brother had no children, so I grew up without siblings or first cousins.

 

So I grew up to to be totally self sufficient. 

 

I can count the number of real friends I have on one hand, everyone else acquaintances at best, and they have come and gone over the years.

 

So in Thailand I never really made any friends, a few falangs and some Thai's who I was friendly with but that was the limit I would go

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On my one and only (gag me) experience on a cruise, I hit on a fatty at the bar and was rebuffed with, "I'm not single, I'm solo".

 

Well, fair enough. Tho what she really meant was, "I'm fat, not desperate".

 

Solo, not single is prob the best stance for the average latter age man arriving in Thailand.

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On 6/14/2023 at 9:42 PM, bogs smith said:

fake smiles and i can do without the constant 'herrrro, welcome',,, again related to the financial transaction point I made.

 

they are only friendly when they are selling you something.

Wow… really nonsense. It’s you, not them. 

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