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1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

Trump is the one going against the deep state.

 

He's the only trustworthy one. And he has no Marxist ideologies unlike the current administration. It's a slippery slope to communism and then where's you civil rights, freedom, and liberty?

 

But he set himself up for failure even before he became president when he said, "We should never have gone to Iraq; we knew there were no weapons of mass destruction there"

 

 

It wasn't up to Biden. He was right. Nobody believes the CIA and the Bush white house didn't lie about the WMD. As for deep state, LOL.

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I agree with the op with this caveat Biden though old is getting positive results for the country our people and the world + there is an excellent team backing the administration ,trump is indeed a co

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President Trump is not a criminal as has not been found guilty of anything, despite 6 years of persecution and false charges, media lies and now set up in a poll! They must be really scared of him.

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Not to mention, Biden also has NOT tried to foment an illegal insurrection against his own country and its established rule of law.   That counts as one pretty big positive in my book.

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7 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

Got a link to substantiate that? ????

No more than the far right have any evidence to support the same accusation against the dems.

 

If there's any deep state its the dark money behind the Federalist society and supreme court nominations and subsequent sc decisions.,

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The OP was locked for a cleanup of Off-Topic posts and replies regarding abortion, suicide, transgender issues and many other off-topic claims. The OP is not about any of those things. Continue to hijack the OP and the posts will be removed without a moderator's notice.

 

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Trump is a criminal, Biden is too old and DeSantis is a fascist

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4 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

Trump is the one going against the deep state.

 

He's the only trustworthy one. And he has no Marxist ideologies unlike the current administration. It's a slippery slope to communism and then where's you civil rights, freedom, and liberty?

 

But he set himself up for failure even before he became president when he said, "We should never have gone to Iraq; we knew there were no weapons of mass destruction there"

 

 

Going after the deep State! Sure!????

 

Except the oil industry deep State, the big pharma deep State, the NRA deep Statet, the real-estate deep State, the rich who got tax cuts deep State..... not to mention the Evangelist deep State, the Catholic deep State, etc...

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7 minutes ago, candide said:

Going after the deep State! Sure!????

 

Except the oil industry deep State, the big pharma deep State, the NRA deep Statet, the real-estate deep State, the rich who got tax cuts deep State..... not to mention the Evangelist deep State, the Catholic deep State, etc...

I think those parties can all be lumped together into something called "The Creep State".

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On 6/20/2023 at 3:53 AM, Yellowtail said:

So what has DeSantis done that makes him a fascist? Did he collude with Facebook & Twitter or what? 

Demonizing and scapegoating minorities, punishing businesses and elected officials that don't support his policies, restricting protests and public access to government records---generally treating the government as if it were his to do with as he pleases.

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On 6/20/2023 at 7:56 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Trump WAS the Government on January  6th , he was the President at the time .

    He wasn't trying to overthrow himself, was he ?

No, the Executive Office (the Presidency) is one of three branches of the the US government and is constrained by law.

 

If you don't understand that...

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On 6/20/2023 at 8:16 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

But at the end of the day, Trump did leave the Whitehouse voluntarily and he conceded his position to Joe Biden .

   This isn't the behaviour of a fascist , fascists remain in power and jail the opposition 

A violent attempt at overturning legitimate election results, which fortunately failed.  That's not leaving voluntarily, that's leaving after all other options have been exhausted.

 

Trump had not quite subverted the rule of law enough to stay in power.  I'm sure he will be better prepared if given another chance.

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On 6/20/2023 at 7:59 PM, FruitPudding said:

Trump is the one going against the deep state.

 

He's the only trustworthy one. And he has no Marxist ideologies unlike the current administration. It's a slippery slope to communism and then where's you civil rights, freedom, and liberty?

 

But he set himself up for failure even before he became president when he said, "We should never have gone to Iraq; we knew there were no weapons of mass destruction there"

 

 

"Trump is the one going against the deep state."

 

Right, and you know that's true because Trump said so.  And of course you can trust Trump because he said he's trustworthy.  Just ask the students of Trump University.

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23 minutes ago, heybruce said:

"Trump is the one going against the deep state."

 

Right, and you know that's true because Trump said so.  And of course you can trust Trump because he said he's trustworthy.  Just ask the students of Trump University.

Well, one of the most important steps Trump took was to make the rich and powerful richer and more powerful via tax cuts. He also followed that up by appointing Supreme Court Justices who overwhelmingly back corporations at the expense of workers. If only he had a won a second term, just think of how much more damage he could have inflicted on corporate interests

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7 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Obviously no one in their right mind would want to see Trump elected again and De Santis is scary.  But Biden is also obviously a spent force and incapable of being President.  Time for Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama.

Joe Manchin.

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4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Manchin is likely to become a Republican soon.

Won't do him much good. The odds are overwhelming that he's going to lose to Jim Justice, be it in the primary or general election.

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20 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Obviously no one in their right mind would want to see Trump elected again and De Santis is scary.  But Biden is also obviously a spent force and incapable of being President.  Time for Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama.

Michelle Obama has no interest. 

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11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Michelle Obama has no interest. 

That's certainly her public line now.  But "if" something were to happen to rule Biden out of the race, they would need to act fast to avoid getting stuck with Kamala Harris.  Michelle might the only way to pacify those who feel the replacement has to be a woman of colour.   She'll be persuaded, when her country needs her.

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2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

That's certainly her public line now.  But "if" something were to happen to rule Biden out of the race, they would need to act fast to avoid getting stuck with Kamala Harris.  Michelle might the only way to pacify those who feel the replacement has to be a woman of colour.   She'll be persuaded, when her country needs her.

No Democrats of note have ever said that her replacement would have to be a woman of colour. Please justify your allegation. There is no presumption that Harris would automatically get Biden's place if he were to drop out.

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8 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

No Democrats of note have ever said that her replacement would have to be a woman of colour. Please justify your allegation. There is no presumption that Harris would automatically get Biden's place if he were to drop out.

I disagree. The Democrats are all about equity, diversity, all that crap.   Kamala would be the presumptive nominee until removed by a primary process.  If it gets late in the game and Joe can't go, then she is your nominee.  There would be hell to pay if the party establishment tried to remove her. 

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6 minutes ago, GarryP said:

Okay, suppose Biden has a health issue that prevents him for running, who would be a good replacement candidate for the Dems?

Sheldon Whitehouse, Daniel Goldman, Ted Lieu or Hakeem Jeffries.

 

 

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47 minutes ago, candide said:

Why is it that MAGA fans seem to prefer corrupt politicians?

https://www.salon.com/2022/03/29/a-stunning-portrait-of-political-corruption-exactly-how-joe-manchin-made-millions-from-coal/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/27/climate/manchin-coal-climate-conflicts.html

 

 

Why is it dems don't like common sense politicians.

 

But, love conspiracy theories. You have nothing.

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27 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Why is it dems don't like common sense politicians.

 

But, love conspiracy theories. You have nothing.

Exactly what in these articles embodies conspiracy theories?

You've got nothing.

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