Against cultural norms.

1 hour ago, jensmann said:

disgusting! no respect!

none of these guys has a body to show.

when I see on my way to dinner I loose appetite...

 

Anybody wearing a Chang Vest after 30 years old is a disgrace also 

6 hours ago, Goodboybkk said:

Is it okay to walk naked chest in the streets?

Not if you have any self respect or dignity.

6 hours ago, stoner said:

only if you feel like a champ.

Should be , chump

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Thai historical dramas show many Thai men bare chested.

But this is the 21st century, the cultural norms that you reference, obviously, do not apply today.

6 hours ago, 2long said:

My wife goes mad if I try to go anywhere in the car with no shirt, which might suggest that it could be (another daft) law.

Your wife's attitude is correct, it is illegal.

6 hours ago, HungDonger said:

If you are a big-breasted, attractive female in your 20's it is O.K. with me.

Small breasted is fine too

No

8 minutes ago, Jack Hammer said:

Should be , chump

Or a chimp

1 minute ago, LukKrueng said:

Small breasted is fine too

preferred ????

5 hours ago, Henryford said:

I was in the dentist the other day and a customer came in for treatment shirtless. Unbelievable rudeness and i was gobsmacked that they treated him like that.

"...they treated him like that".

What was the "unbelievable rudeness" and who treated whom like what?

Can you do that in London? New York? Sydney? Tokyo?

 

Then why would anyone think it's okay in Thailand?

 

I do see Westerners doing it, even in Bangkok. Some are heavily tatted.

 

Not a good look, and unlikely to make Thais any more smitten of foreigners.

 

Tying into another topic about TAT's latest target demographic, I really don't like seeing women dressed as giant eggplants, either. I guess if one founded a religion where upper body nudity was dictated by one's deity, maybe it would be as acceptable as eggplant suits.

Walking by the beach without a shirt is ok.  Problem is shirtless people should shirt up when visiting food shops. I like yhr sign.. No shirt no service. 

When I lived in the USA, many places used to have signs "No shoes, no shirt, no service" a sentiment with which I actually agreed.

It's reasonable, IMO, to think that anyone walking down a city street is likely to want to visit a shop, store, restaurant or whatever at some point.

 

I tend to think it shows something unpleasant about the attitude of someone who does this and I personally tend to avoid them.

Having said that, on a beach road, my stance is "up to you" but it still says "something" about the person.

 

I personally feel uncomfortable going shirtless in the street but sometimes I walk the beach (say Pattaya Dolphin to Walking St) and I'll take my shirt off, but put it back on when i return to the street.

 

UPDATE - Cross-posted with @jippytum above

Edited August 22, 20232 yr by VBF

54 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

But this is the 21st century, the cultural norms that you reference, obviously, do not apply today.

Less than 100 years.

So wearing shirts (for guys or girls) is not tradition.

 

6 hours ago, Drumbuie said:

The same goes for shorts, imho

I guess time to buy some sexy elephants pants.

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Less than 100 years.

So wearing shirts (for guys or girls) is not tradition.

 

I didn't say that men wearing shirts is tradition, I pointed out which century we are in.

8 hours ago, Goodboybkk said:

Dear all,

 

Is it okay to walk naked chest in the streets?

It is very hot in Thailand.

Thanks

 

8 hours ago, Goodboybkk said:

Dear all,

 

Is it okay to walk naked chest in the streets?

It is very hot in Thailand.

Thanks

 

8 hours ago, Goodboybkk said:

Dear all,

 

Is it okay to walk naked chest in the streets?

It is very hot in Thailand.

Thanks

 

Just now, soalbundy said:

 

NO, NO, A thousand times NO

 

 

2 hours ago, wwest5829 said:

I am only mildly curious to learn if it was primarily Christian Missionary pressure, as is documented in so many other cultures, or if it was a Thai motivated change primarily to be seen as an advancing country.

Certainly prior to the 20th century, Christian missionaries and other outside factors influenced attitudes towards toplessness.

 

In the 20th century, the 10th mandate of the 12 Thai Cultural Mandates as set out by Field Marshall Plaek Songgram required "appropriate dress" in order for Thailand to appear as a modern society.

 

So both, I guess.

No shirt and no mask -  proper status quo challenger ???? I can't see myself following their pervasive masking norms, but away from the beach, pool bar, and park I think you're probably best covering for UV protection alone.

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Thai historical dramas show many Thai men bare chested.

2023 isn't history yet.

6 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

 

That guy in the shorts feels it's too hot for a shirt, but the fully-dressed guy in the yellow trousers seems to be doing ok.

 

He is obviously not OK.

Note the orthopedic shoes .

8 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Up until the early 20th century, many Thai women used to go around topless.

 

I wonder why that particular element of "Thainess" is no longer promoted.

You haven't seen my 86 year old MIL walking around topless or you would know why its not promoted

3 minutes ago, Dan O said:

You haven't seen my 86 year old MIL walking around topless or you would know why its not promoted

+1 

If you want to be looked down on by everyone as a pikey then it’s fine, but it’s very low class and Thai people will not like it. 

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

But this is the 21st century, the cultural norms that you reference, obviously, do not apply today.

And they were mistly portraying brave strong warriers not casual walkabouts. 

I wouldn't now nor did I ever, wherever I was, go around shirtless in public. It gives reason for many to notice and consider it disrespectful and not caring about one's appearance.

 

If you don't have a good body, then it doesn't look very nice and if you have a great body, then you are being ostentatious and obviously out to impress.

 

Bit like tattoos; what's the point of them if you can't display them to everybody?

 

About the reason; too hot! Ever thought, in a tropical country at least, the heat is accompanied by direct sun to the skin and that surely will be hot, apart from the possible burning. And will you only be walking in the street but not entering any premises? Maybe carry some kind of top around your waist - that will look not so good either.

 

So, NO!

 

I DO go topless when on the beach, and shoeless and sockless - and no underwear - who would see, anyway?

 

 

Edited August 22, 20232 yr by ChrisKC
typo

3 hours ago, Dazinoz said:

I guess time to buy some sexy elephants pants.

Contradiction in terms ????

1 minute ago, VBF said:

Contradiction in terms ????

Exactly. The person I quoted was saying shorts not acceptable in his opinion.  So I mentioned the elephant pants I wouldn’t be caught dead in them.