Thaksin Slightly Better But Still Needs Oxygen, Room Cooled By Fans

[roo860]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

 

THE Police Hospital’s top physician said this afternoon (Aug. 23) that Pheu Thai de facto boss/former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra is now slightly better than when he arrived last night but still requires respiratory support and while able to communicates suffers from shortness of breath, Matichon newspaper said.

 

Pol. Lt. Gen. Sophonrat Singharu, the hospital’s chief physician, added that the team of six doctors taking care of him had forbidden visits and should his family want to move him to a private hospital this would be at the discretion of the Corrections Department.

 

The department did not inform the hospital in advance that they were rushing Thaksin over because their medical team had already tried to control his high blood pressure but with the sudden onset of chest tightness and low oxygen level  decided to send him here.

 

by TNR Staff 

TOP: Pheu Thai de facto boss/former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, left, and Police Hospital chief physician Pol. Lt. Gen. Sophonrat Singharu, right, with images of two fans to illustrate how his room is being cooled. Composite photo: Matichon

 

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They haven't said how many times he went for a <deleted>.

[damian]

The truly insulting thing about this story is that those who made it up believe that we will believe it.  

 

Yet still, some will gather at the hospital forecourt to hold vigil and present flowers and get well soon cards. 

 

Weapons grade pathetic.

[thailand49]

5 minutes ago, david555 said:

A good post from you ????

 

Prayt had the Tanks ........

Thaksin has the money , the political backup ,the connections, the brains , and ......the love of a big % of the population , that gave him the opportunity's now .......

Thaksin played the game right he went to the masses up north outside of Bangkok to gain support just like Mao in China. In the model world he loaded himself with political MP's supporter it work so well his head got so big he forgot to show respect to the one person. Second he had the political support but not the physical might and that is a Army. He didn't have a general or general supporter to side against the house selection.  

You need a army of your own reason Mao was successful and sadly if there is ever to be a really change here that is what a leader need. 

[wombat]

It just blows me away how quickly a person's health can deteriorate...one day trouping around the world and the next banged up ...where upon feeling ill is then moved to a hospital that is owned by his family...karma works in mysterious ways.

[fondue zoo]

The wealthy are just better and smarter than everyone else..  what are going to do?     ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[SunnyinBangrak]

Let him go home. Thailand should not jail political opponents like 3rd world countries do. We are better than that.

[bamnutsak]

I assume they're still preparing his accommodations at the family-owned/operated Praram 9 Hospital?

 

I'm not certain who they (Courts/RTP/Thaksin) think the audience is for this charade, but absolutely no one believes he suddenly became ill within a few hours of his return. The lengths they are going to to describe the lodging conditions, and his multiple health issues is an indication of prevarication.

 

Illness(es) are just being used as one of several grounds for a Pardon. Baby steps.

 

Just 10 years ago "amnesty" threw the country into a convulsive fit. Now, not so much.

[kennw]

4 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Common sense tells you that extreme heat or extreme cold requires the body to exert more effort to either keep cool or keep warm.   This is the reason it's important for sick people to be in a place with a comfortable room temperature.

What a circus ! and we are only into the early acts, but we are leading up to the flnale, a pardon due to poor health and then the miraculous recovery back to good health. 55555555 

[Felton Jarvis]

3 hours ago, Dan O said:

He needs to play the game to ask for a sentence reduction due to health. That would be separate of a request for a Royal pardon which can only occur every 2 years. 

A royal pardon can be given at any time for any reason. Amnesty occurs every two years.

[wwest5829]

4 hours ago, still kicking said:

He is not ill I have more disabilities than he has, and I am 76. 

And you have examined the patient in question after receiving your medical degree from? Individuals vary. I too am 76 and a heart patient. Doing fine here in Chiang Mai but I use the air conditioner, thank you. My two satang worth ... I will leave this to the six Doctor team overseeing his care.

[kennw]

17 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Thaksin played the game right he went to the masses up north outside of Bangkok to gain support just like Mao in China. In the model world he loaded himself with political MP's supporter it work so well his head got so big he forgot to show respect to the one person. Second he had the political support but not the physical might and that is a Army. He didn't have a general or general supporter to side against the house selection.  

You need a army of your own reason Mao was successful and sadly if there is ever to be a really change here that is what a leader need. 

Taksin chose the police for his team after all he was one of them for a while.

[bannork]

2 minutes ago, kennw said:

What a circus ! and we are only into the early acts, but we are leading up to the flnale, a pardon due to poor health and then the miraculous recovery back to good health. 55555555 

The whole charade reeks of bad acting. Give it a day or two and  hashtags on Twitter making fun of this pantomime will appear.

[kennw]

3 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

A royal pardon can be given at any time for any reason. Amnesty occurs every two years.

And the birthday is coming up.

[wwest5829]

27 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Thaksin played the game right he went to the masses up north outside of Bangkok to gain support just like Mao in China. In the model world he loaded himself with political MP's supporter it work so well his head got so big he forgot to show respect to the one person. Second he had the political support but not the physical might and that is a Army. He didn't have a general or general supporter to side against the house selection.  

You need a army of your own reason Mao was successful and sadly if there is ever to be a really change here that is what a leader need. 

Looking at history, I would observe that in order to bring change, it is most often that you have a society organization not taking care of the interests of at least a substantial number of the citizens. That is where first Mao and many others first gained their support. Agreeing with you, noting Thaksin's citizen support base in the Thai North. As to institutional support, his was in the RTP force rather than the Army (thus the current police hospital care).

Edited August 24, 2023 by wwest5829

[Felton Jarvis]

2 hours ago, kennw said:

And the birthday is coming up.

When asked how many days Thaksin has to wait before applying for a royal pardon, Wissanu said: “That can be done within [the first] 24 hours. But I don’t know if he will do it. I can’t answer this for him.”

 

According to Wissanu, who is also serving as the caretaker justice minister, the process calls for convicts to submit their written appeal to the King for a royal pardon.

“But they have to wait for two more years to submit a new appeal if they are not granted a pardon [in their first attempt],” he said.

[fondue zoo]

 

8 minutes ago, kennw said:

a pardon due to poor health and then the miraculous recovery back to good health. 55555555 

We just don't understand... He is Siam and Siam will restore and heal him over time, magic probably.

 

[Frankie baby]

So now we have an insight to the plot?

 

Nobody saw these tactics coming, never-the-less well done to the tactician. 

[Victor Laszlo]

Phase 1

[jacko45k]

17 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Let him go home. Thailand should not jail political opponents like 3rd world countries do. We are better than that.

3rd world, how about New World?

[bamnutsak]

2 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

According to Wissanu, who is also serving as the caretaker justice minister, the process calls for convicts to submit their written appeal to the King for a royal pardon.

“But they have to wait for two more years to submit a new appeal if they are not granted a pardon [in their first attempt],” he said.

 

According to the current Constitution, the King is the Head of State, and his power is unlimited.

 

He can grant pardons anytime he wishes. 

 

It is weird that Wissanu appears to be speaking for the King, and applying limits to his authority. 

 

All that said, it is far too early to discuss a pardon, which might come in the form of multiple pardons, reducing the sentence each time, over a period of months or even a year.

 

 

[bendejo]

Wasn't his plan to live in Chiang Mai ?

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

the team of six doctors taking care of him had forbidden visits

Wouldn't want people to see that he's actually ok now would we?

[Gandtee]

5 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Common sense tells you that extreme heat or extreme cold requires the body to exert more effort to either keep cool or keep warm.   This is the reason it's important for sick people to be in a place with a comfortable room temperature.

Including those in prison regardless of their status?

[retarius]

5 hours ago, still kicking said:

Now I don't have an aircon or heater or even use a fan in summer and no I don't live in Europe or Cannada 

Me, me, me , me , me.....give us a break. This isn't about what you do!

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, SoilSpoil said:

His corrupt dealings that led to unusual wealth were well documented at the time. My favorite was the soft loan to Myanmar so they could buy his products. How about changing the Foreign Ownership laws to sell his telecom assets?  His wife's crooked land deals? Just to name some of his shenanigans.

If you know Thais in business, all of them would have done the same or similar, given the chance. 

[retarius]

3 hours ago, Homburg said:

Is it possible that he is truly unwell?  @villageidiot posted on an earlier thread that in recent candid photographs he "looked ghastly". The pic of him seated in his private jet and looking well, supposedly en route to the LOS may in fact not have been taken that day - or indeed any time recently - this would perhaps explain the change of wristwatch reported between when he was pictured on the jet and when he arrived.

Some sense. There are Thaksin haters on here, consumed by hatred for Thaksin that apparently have some secret way of knowing how his health is.

[retarius]

4 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

Including those in prison regardless of their status?

Not for murderers, but those in for non-violent crimes, yes. Italy has a law whereby they cannot put people over the age of 75 in jail. 

[jayboy]

50 minutes ago, damian said:

The truly insulting thing about this story is that those who made it up believe that we will believe it.  

 

Yet still, some will gather at the hospital forecourt to hold vigil and present flowers and get well soon cards. 

 

Weapons grade pathetic.

I think you make a key point.Nobody believes a word of this.Those who propagate the lie know that nobody believes a word of it.Yet they don't particularly care.This is a situation built on lies.But I believe there is a fear lurking - which relates to what the Thai people might have to say at the next General Election and the sham democratic Constitution may not save the day.

[retarius]

3 hours ago, Venom said:

Yes and what about fakers, what do they need? 

Initially , the benefit of doubt and to get the advice of physicians, not people on a chat board who seem to 'know' everything.

[SoilSpoil]

11 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

If you know Thais in business, all of them would have done the same or similar, given the chance. 

That doesnt make ot right, does it? If you want to kill a snake, you start with chopping off the head.