Thaksin Slightly Better But Still Needs Oxygen, Room Cooled By Fans

[Ralf001]

Stay strong Thakky, sending thoughts and prayers.

[thailand49]

4 hours ago, kennw said:

Taksin chose the police for his team after all he was one of them for a while.

What choice did he have but the powers to be is from the big house and the big house has the military backing. What the police did for him was sneak him and his sister out of Thailand and will protect his return until he is free. 

[thailand49]

4 hours ago, wwest5829 said:

Looking at history, I would observe that in order to bring change, it is most often that you have a society organization not taking care of the interests of at least a substantial number of the citizens. That is where first Mao and many others first gained their support. Agreeing with you, noting Thaksin's citizen support base in the Thai North. As to institutional support, his was in the RTP force rather than the Army (thus the current police hospital care).

I agree but the RTP stood no chance against the military if it did the coup wouldn't have been successful nor would Prayut the big house puppet happen in 2014.

The situation with Pita if that doesn't flick a switch for Thais instead of some demontration that goes no where change isn't coming in my lifetime. 

[Fairynuff]

This reminds of when Boris Johnson was rushed to hospital with Covid, nearly died and was back in the office a couple of days later, similar to the stunts pulled by Trump and Bolsonaro.

[rabas]

Love the no special treatment nonsense.

 

Fly him by helicopter to a top hospital after a few hours in the prison hospital ward.  Now he's in Royal Suite 1401 on 14th floor, but the police explain this not a VIP room. And, the aircon is 'no so good' so they added a couple of fans for his comfort. Then they assign 6 physicians at his beck and call. What do real prisoners get?

 

But in Thailand, the lie is good enough if you don't loose face pretending to believe it.

[bannork]

39 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

Yes, he probably did tell porkies, but tell me any senior politician in Thailand or the UK who has not. I only refer to these two countries as they are the only countries I have lived in.

There are levels of lies from the white lie to avoid hurt feelings, to the brazen in your face lie, I know that you know that I'm lying but I don't give a flying fluck..

Thaksin's 'honest mistake' remark definitely falls into the last category imo,  and to use it in court under oath suggests to me a man devoid of a moral compass .

[bannork]

21 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

I agree but the RTP stood no chance against the military if it did the coup wouldn't have been successful nor would Prayut the big house puppet happen in 2014.

The situation with Pita if that doesn't flick a switch for Thais instead of some demontration that goes no where change isn't coming in my lifetime. 

t49 hang on. At a guess I reckon you're 73 or 74, born in 1949?

Outlive your contemporaries in the Thai elite by a few years and you may yet die happy 

Edited August 24, 2023 by bannork

[thailand49]

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

t49 hang on. At a guess I reckon you're 73 or 74, born in 1949?

Outlive your contemporaries in the Thai elite by a few years and you may yet die happy 

I guess that would be my happy ending here in Thailand ????

 

[Liverpool Lou]

9 hours ago, still kicking said:

He is not ill

Where did you get that information from?   Your condition is irrelevant.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, still kicking said:

My choice? I am not God. OK?

But you do seem to think that you're his doctor.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, still kicking said:

So what sentence do you get if you kill 2000 people plus if you are not a billionaire?

No sentence if you're not convicted of that, as he wasn't.

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, Homburg said:

Is it possible that he is truly unwell?  @villageidiot posted on an earlier thread that in recent candid photographs he "looked ghastly". The pic of him seated in his private jet and looking well, supposedly en route to the LOS may in fact not have been taken that day - or indeed any time recently - this would perhaps explain the change of wristwatch reported between when he was pictured on the jet and when he arrived.

C'mon, you're being logical now, that does not go down well with the AN ranters and ill-informed speculators!

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, PeachCH said:

Actually I wonder why Khun Thaksin is not in the Praram 9 hospital, where he is or perhaps was, a major shareholder. 

Because, being a prisoner, he does not have that choice.  The decision about where he goes is made by the Corrections Department but you'd have to have read the OP in full to know that!

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, mania said:

All Bangkok Prisoners please raise your hand if you could use more Oxygen & a room Cooled By Fans......Ok Thank You we will get right on that

All Klong Prem inmates have lots of oxygen as the window areas are not glazed, there's plenty of air flow and when they are confined they have plenty of massive ceiling fans in the cells.

 

They do not spend the days locked inside, they're, either, working in fan-equipped areas or they're free to do what they want in the yard and can have as much oxygen as they need. 

[PETERTHEEATER]

7 hours ago, Jing Joe said:

He wanted to "breathe the same air as his friends" and now he "supposedly" has a lung problem and needing oxygen. A friend visited to Bangkok revcently and the air was unbelievably polluted.   Who could guess what the overall plot is now?  If ever there was a case of "watch this space" hey?

If he's suffering from shortness of breath, ask Prawit to take his foot off the oxygen tube.

[bradiston]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

All Klong Prem inmates have lots of oxygen as the window areas are not glazed, there's plenty of air flow and when they are confined they have plenty of massive ceiling fans in the cells.

 

They do not spend the days locked inside, they're, either, working in fan-equipped areas or they're free to do what they want in the yard and can have as much oxygen as they need. 

Sounds like a holiday camp. Are you sure this prison you're on about isn't in Xinjiang?

[hotandsticky]

17 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

C'mon, you're being logical now, that does not go down well with the AN ranters and ill-informed speculators!

Logic....or fantasy?

 

 

In Thailand it is a thin dividing line.

[Liverpool Lou]

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He is not convicted to 8 years in jail. I think that is a good start. 

Er, which news reports have you been reading, he has been given eight years...pro tem.

[Tanlic]

Someone said this was all staged. Thaksin has come home to die in the country and the peoplehe loves make no mistake about that.

 

He's hardly out to rule the country again and If he is still alive in a year I or less I will be amazed.

[billd766]

10 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Common sense tells you that extreme heat or extreme cold requires the body to exert more effort to either keep cool or keep warm.   This is the reason it's important for sick people to be in a place with a comfortable room temperature.

Practical experience with 2 blackouts, BP problems, breathing problems caused by lower lung infections are extremely dangerous.

 

For all those stupid persons who posted laughter emoticons and think it is funny.

 

Well I hope something like that happens to you, and then see how funny it really is.

 

When you are fighting to breathe, and cannot walk 2 or 3 metres without having to sit and take deep breaths, it sure as shot is not funny.

 

It happened to me the first time in February 2023 when I woke up in hospital 70 km away, (already having been taken to the nearest hospital emergency room and having no memory of it), not knowing where I was, what time, day, week or month it was, or even how I got there. I had no idea where my wife was, or even if she knew where I was.

 

Quite frankly it was the scariest f'ing that that has happened to me in 78 years.

 

It doesn't matter to me if Thaksin, his prison doctors or the caretaker government are lying or telling the truth, but if it is true, then he has my every sympathy.

 

From one who has been there and been dragged back by some excellent doctors, nurses and emergency response crews.

It always seems funny if it is someone else, and then if it happens to you, it isn't funny anymore.

[hotandsticky]

1 minute ago, Tanlic said:

  Thaksin has come home to die in the country and the people he loves make no mistake about that.

 

 

 

Even I would find it hard to deny him that opportunity...

[Bert got kinky]

 

Room Cooled By Fans

Hope that they're not Arsenal fans, he wouldn't survive without an atmosphere.

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

6 hours ago, thailand49 said:

anyone know of any inmate at any prison in the world get a physical that he gotten,  a helicopter ride and resides with a team of specialise at the royal hospital and suite. 

"...anyone know of any inmate at any prison in the world get a physical that he gotten".

Yes, I do.  Every inmate gets a medical on admission to Klong Prem, if they have existing problems they are taken into consideration and treated accordingly.

 

"...resides with a team of specialise at the royal hospital and suite".

Gawd....   He is not in "the royal hospital and suite", he is in The Police General Hospital, a public government hospital and he is kept in a separate room because, (a) he was admitted as an emergency with heart and breathing difficulties and (b) he has to undergo quarantine, as has been reported many times.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, wombat said:

.where upon feeling ill is then moved to a hospital that is owned by his family

Nonsense.  The Shinawatra family does not own The Police General Hospital, the government does.

[billd766]

8 hours ago, still kicking said:

So what sentence do you get if you kill 2000 people plus if you are not a billionaire?

So what sentence do you get for committing treason, making an illegal coup, stealing the whole country at the point of a gun, backed by tanks and an army?

 

Answer

You steal the entire country, treasury, justice system et al. You grant yourself and your co conspirators an amnesty for ALL past, present and future crimes, appoint the senate with all your family, cronies, mates etc, tear up and get the constitution and have a new one written in your favour, to keep you in power as long as YOU want.

 

BTW, can you tell us all how many people Thaksin actually personally killed, without the sob story?

[couchpotato]

2 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said:

You know what “banged” means in American slang, right? Your mate must have had a heII of a time for those 2 1/2 years!

"banged up"...not "banged"...completely different meaning matey.

[candide]

5 hours ago, kennw said:

Taksin chose the police for his team after all he was one of them for a while.

Maybe also because the police was more likely to follow orders from an elected government than the army?

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, expat_4_life said:

amazing that before July of this year I can't find a single article reporting that Thaksin has any health issues.

What's the relevance of "before July"?   Is that so that you don't have to mention his delay in returning caused by a medical examination that was reported on 6th August?

[Liverpool Lou]

32 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Are you sure this prison you're on about isn't in Xinjiang?

Positive.

[Liverpool Lou]

27 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Practical experience with 2 blackouts, BP problems, breathing problems caused by lower lung infections are extremely dangerous.

 

For all those stupid persons who posted laughter emoticons and think it is funny.

 

Well I hope something like that happens to you, and then see how funny it really is.

 

When you are fighting to breathe, and cannot walk 2 or 3 metres without having to sit and take deep breaths, it sure as shot is not funny.

 

It happened to me the first time in February 2023 when I woke up in hospital 70 km away, (already having been taken to the nearest hospital emergency room and having no memory of it), not knowing where I was, what time, day, week or month it was, or even how I got there. I had no idea where my wife was, or even if she knew where I was.

 

Quite frankly it was the scariest f'ing that that has happened to me in 78 years.

 

It doesn't matter to me if Thaksin, his prison doctors or the caretaker government are lying or telling the truth, but if it is true, then he has my every sympathy.

 

From one who has been there and been dragged back by some excellent doctors, nurses and emergency response crews.

It always seems funny if it is someone else, and then if it happens to you, it isn't funny anymore.

Well said.