Cannabis Network Gives Health Minister A Warning

[webfact]

 

A CANNABIS network yesterday (Sep. 22) urged Public Health Minister Chonlanan Srikaew to clearly define what a planned draft bill on cannabis and hemp would mean in saying it is to be for medical and health purposes only because if traditional medical practitioners are cut out it could lead to conflicts, TV Channel 7 said.

 

After the liberal marijuana policy became effective on June 9, 2022 possessing and using all parts of cannabis plants, including flowers and seeds, are now allowed. However, extracted content remains illegal if it contains more than 0.2% of the psychoactive ingredient that produces a “high” — tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC.

 

Mr. Prasitchai Noonuan, secretary-general of Writing Thailand’s Cannabis Future network, pointed out that marijuana has been used by local medical practitioners to treat patients for hundreds of years but when it comes analysing its use it is modern medical doctors who are asked to undertake the task with most of them disliking it.

 

“If Dr Chonlanan only asks modern medical doctors to define marijuana conflicts will occur. This isn’t just a fight over marijuana but also about squeezing out local knowledge time and again.

 

by TNR Staff

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[pedro01]

Well, that'll scare the government.

 

Its right though, docs wont prescribe weed when they get paid to sell pharmaceuticals. Plus theres still those that doubt the medical benefits.

[HappyExpat57]

11 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

Well, that'll scare the government.

 

Its right though, docs wont prescribe weed when they get paid to sell pharmaceuticals. Plus theres still those that doubt the medical benefits.

If one doc won't, you just go up a block and will find one who will.

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

A CANNABIS network yesterday (Sep. 22) urged Public Health Minister Chonlanan Srikaew to clearly define what a planned draft bill on cannabis and hemp would mean in saying it is to be for medical and health purposes only because if traditional medical practitioners are cut out it could lead to conflicts,

Define traditional medical practitioners?

street vendors?

[Colabamumbai]

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Define traditional medical practitioners?

street vendors?

Village doctors have been treating Thais with CBD oil for a hundred years. 

[pedro01]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

If one doc won't, you just go up a block and will find one who will.

Unless they make it like valium and other abused meds and you can only get prescribed in a hospital.

[kiwikeith]

2 hours ago, pedro01 said:

Well, that'll scare the government.

 

Its right though, docs wont prescribe weed when they get paid to sell pharmaceuticals. Plus theres still those that doubt the medical benefits.

True, but not all countries have legalised uncontrolled THC level gunga for sale, and pressure could be put on them from someone who grew plenty of it b4 it became legalised, it's making some up the ladder very rich, and it's a bold move to try and reverse it now, as big jokes car was installed with Aircon one day, free, would be an example of their generosity. 

[2baht]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

If one doc won't, you just go up a block and will find one who will.

You don't need a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows! Grass has been around for ever and will be around for ever! 

[2baht]

7 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

Unless they make it like valium and other abused meds and you can only get prescribed in a hospital.

????Naive! ????

[kiwikeith]

8 minutes ago, Colabamumbai said:

Village doctors have been treating Thais with CBD oil for a hundred years. 

That's right, and plenty of people with serious illness swear by it, it should just have been allowed without penalty to home grown in small quantity, but there was dollar signs in someone's eyeballs, and they wanted all the proceeds, just as the Sackler family pushed oxycontin legally until they were forbidden to make it and fined six billion for, they got that back in investments in a few years and no one went to jail. 

[PJ71]

21 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

Unless they make it like valium and other abused meds and you can only get prescribed in a hospital.

Benzos are available OTC here.

[daveAustin]

It’ll piss a lot of people off if it is flippantly reversed. Not just ordinary, normal folk just enjoying their lives, but people right up. Thailand likes to think it is all grown up and stable when talking economics etc, but is proper banana republic when it makes swift flip-flop changes. Almost childlike. 

[HaoleBoy]

25 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

That's right, and plenty of people with serious illness swear by it, it should just have been allowed without penalty to home grown in small quantity, but there was dollar signs in someone's eyeballs, and they wanted all the proceeds, just as the Sackler family pushed oxycontin legally until they were forbidden to make it and fined six billion for, they got that back in investments in a few years and no one went to jail. 

Here in Thailand where monopolies rule it will become just like Craft Beer where only 2 families can sell marijuana (for medical or recreational use).

[pedro01]

22 minutes ago, PJ71 said:

Benzos are available OTC here.

In Samui yes - in Bangkok and most of Pattaya, they cracked down on them years ago. 

[pedro01]

38 minutes ago, 2baht said:

????Naive! ????

No - you just thought I meant something else.

 

There's a lot of drugs that can only be prescribed in a hospital - in other words, the local clinic can't prescribe them. Drugs like Tramadol are a good example - they used to be OTC here but then Thai kids started abusing the stuff mixing it with booze and so they brought in additional restrictions years ago.

[HappyExpat57]

54 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

Unless they make it like valium and other abused meds and you can only get prescribed in a hospital.

555! Seriously? Just about ANY of the little medical centers will sell you valium at a VERY reasonable rate. The same ones that will write you a prescription for just about anything you want. Even when Xanax was elevated in drug level of seriousness, all it did was bump up the price by 5 baht a pill.

[stoner]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

This isn’t just a fight over marijuana but also about squeezing out local knowledge time and again.

what local knowledge would that be ? very curious to hear all the ancient secrets of cannabis thailand is holding onto. 

 

 

[jcmj]

Hell, my doctor suggested that I try marijuana for my chronic pain, but I still haven’t found one that helps and doesn’t make me feel loopy. I don’t like the high feeling I just want the pain to go away. 

[ChipButty]

8 minutes ago, jcmj said:

Hell, my doctor suggested that I try marijuana for my chronic pain, but I still haven’t found one that helps and doesn’t make me feel loopy. I don’t like the high feeling I just want the pain to go away. 

The best I have ever tried was the cannabis oil CBD one drop under your tongue before you go to bed and you sleep like a baby ok I dont have any pains like you, we got some after my wife had 6 sessions of chemo and 30 days of radio, we got it for her and it knocked her out, I just thought I would try it, 

[JimboB4]

Nothing has changed yet since it began in 2019 and nothing will change now no matter what you write. 

[2baht]

1 hour ago, jcmj said:

Hell, my doctor suggested that I try marijuana for my chronic pain, but I still haven’t found one that helps and doesn’t make me feel loopy. I don’t like the high feeling I just want the pain to go away. 

Try CBD oil! Works great on my cancer pain, if I want to get loopy, I smoke THC! ????

[JimboB4]

The actual warning was leave it the hell alone because the Thai economy is now depending on it. 

[jacko45k]

Just now, JimboB4 said:

The actual warning was leave it the hell alone because the Thai economy is now depending on it. 

A profusion of empty cafes and shops is what the Thai economy is dependent on? I think not. 

[KannikaP]

2 hours ago, pedro01 said:

No - you just thought I meant something else.

 

There's a lot of drugs that can only be prescribed in a hospital - in other words, the local clinic can't prescribe them. Drugs like Tramadol are a good example - they used to be OTC here but then Thai kids started abusing the stuff mixing it with booze and so they brought in additional restrictions years ago.

I can get OTC here, no problem.

[JBChiangRai]

The problem is recreational use.  Recreational use has never been legal.  They removed it as a narcotic providing THC content less than 0.2% and Anutin himself couldn't have been clearer at the time, as he said to CNN...

 

Thai Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said he expected legal cannabis production to boost the economy but cautioned that recreational use of the drug remains illegal.

“It’s a no,” said Anutin, who is also a deputy prime minister. “We still have regulations under the law that control the consumption, smoking or use of cannabis products in non-productive ways.”

Thailand just decriminalized cannabis. But you still can't smoke joints, minister says | CNN

 

The problem is growers and shops didn't listen and followed one another like lemmings.

[XJPSX]

They can’t pull the pin on this now. 20% of BKK retail would be empty if this happened.

Some of the money retailers have invested on their Fitout’s to sell weed is indicative of the margin they make….even though there are so many of them.

[bamnutsak]

There may be a shift away from THC to Hemp and CBD, based on the Cannabis and Hemp Act being re-considered in Parliament.

 

Currently Cannabis (THC or CBD or 1:1) is only approved as a treatment for 4 symptoms: 1) nausea and vomiting from chemotherapy 2) difficult-to-treat epilepsy 3) spasticity in multiple sclerosis 4) nervous system pain and assessed that it might benefit 6 symptoms: 1) Parkinson's 2) Alzheimer's 3) Multiple Sclerosis 4) Anxiety 5) End-stage cancer 6) Other diseases of terminally ill patients. And additional research is required in 1 case: cancer.

 

 

23 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

The problem is recreational use.  Recreational use has never been legal.  They removed it as a narcotic providing THC content less than 0.2%

This is of course incorrect.

 

Cannabis Flower, regardless of THC content, was removed from the Narcotics Lists as of 9 June 2022.

 

 

 

[Billybaroo]

3 hours ago, PJ71 said:

Benzos are available OTC here.

Huh? 

[Billybaroo]

2 hours ago, jcmj said:

Hell, my doctor suggested that I try marijuana for my chronic pain, but I still haven’t found one that helps and doesn’t make me feel loopy. I don’t like the high feeling I just want the pain to go away. 

Unfortunately, one needs quite a high THC level to shut out chronic pain due to illness or nerve conditions. At higher levels cannabis operates like alcohol. You feel happier, but are usually quite bombed. Very difficult to function at that point. 

[stoner]

21 minutes ago, XJPSX said:

They can’t pull the pin on this now. 20% of BKK retail would be empty if this happened.

maybe i have finally smoked too much after reading this bs.