Sweden gangs: PM summons army chief after surge in killings

[Social Media]

 

Sweden's prime minister has summoned the head of the armed forces to help curb a surge in gang killings.

 

The two men and the country's police chief will meet on Friday to discuss what role the military could play.

It comes after a bloody 12 hours that saw two men shot dead in Stockholm and a 25-year-old woman killed in a blast at home in a town north of the capital.

"We will hunt the gangs down and we will defeat them," PM Ulf Kristersson promised in a rare televised address.

Armed forces chief Micael Byden told Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter he was prepared to assist police efforts.

It is not clear exactly how the military might get involved but previous talks suggest soldiers may take over certain policing duties to allow officers to free up resources for crime-fighting.

 

Some critics have described the proposed measures as superficial, arguing they treat the symptoms rather than root causes of the violence.

So far this month, 12 people have been killed in gang violence - the highest number since December 2019, according to Dagens Nyheter.

Swedish media have connected the recent surge to a conflict involving a gang known as the Foxtrot network, which has been rocked by infighting and split into two rival factions.

Mr Kristersson said Sweden had not seen anything like it before and that "no other country in Europe" was experiencing this kind of situation.

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He stressed that children and innocent bystanders were increasingly being caught up in violence across the country.

The overnight explosion in Fullero, some 80km (50 miles) north of Stockholm, killed a woman thought to be a neighbour of a person with connections to organised crime.

 

She went to sleep "on a completely ordinary evening but never got to wake up", the prime minister said.

 

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[impulse]

1 hour ago, Social Media said:

a gang known as the Foxtrot network, which has been rocked by infighting and split into two rival factions.

Mr Kristersson said Sweden had not seen anything like it before and that "no other country in Europe" was experiencing this kind of situation.

Someone who knows, please catch me up.  Is the Foxtrot Network home grown, or mostly recent arrivals?

 

[Mr Derek]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

Someone who knows, please catch me up.  Is the Foxtrot Network home grown, or mostly recent arrivals?

 

Immigrants of course. The leader is Kurdish. Swedes are better than that.

The BBC won't mention it as it is destroys their leftist agenda.

[impulse]

49 minutes ago, Mr Derek said:

Immigrants of course. The leader is Kurdish. Swedes are better than that.

The BBC won't mention it as it is destroys their leftist agenda.

So if you scrape off the political correctness, the root cause is globalism?

 

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, impulse said:

So if you scrape off the political correctness, the root cause is globalism?

 

What's globalism?

[JeffersLos]

Immigrants?

 

Muslim immigrants? 

[impulse]

Here's some of the Swedish PM's speech, translated to English by Swedish independent journalist Peter Imanuelsen, also known as PeterSweden. You can get the rest at PeterSweden.com.  I doubt that the English speaking MSM will dare to translate the speech.

 

How could it become this bad? The fact is that we are many who saw this coming and warned about it. This organized crime has grown in over a decade, in just 10 years, violent deadly shootings have tripled. It is political naivety and ignorance that has brought us here. It is a reckless migration policy and a failed integration that has brought us here. Exclusion and parallel societies is feeding the criminal gangs. There they can recklessly recruit children and educate the murderers of the future. Swedish law is not designed for gang warfare and child soldiers. But we are changing that now.

 

(Underlining is mine)

[impulse]

9 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

What's globalism?

Globalism, on a smaller scale, is the idea that you can invite a bunch of gun totin' rednecks to your evening of poetry reading, and it will go well.

 

[Bkk Brian]

15 hours ago, Mr Derek said:

Immigrants of course. The leader is Kurdish. Swedes are better than that.

The BBC won't mention it as it is destroys their leftist agenda.

Yet if you actually click the BBC link for the full article:

 

"Police have linked the violence to poor integration of immigrants, a widening gap between rich and poor and drug use."

 

 

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yet if you actually click the BBC link for the full article:

 

"Police have linked the violence to poor integration of immigrants, a widening gap between rich and poor and drug use."

Yup.  That's what BBC would say...

 

[Danderman123]

22 minutes ago, impulse said:

Globalism, on a smaller scale, is the idea that you can invite a bunch of gun totin' rednecks to your evening of poetry reading, and it will go well.

 

so you are suggesting that globalism has to do with immigration policy?

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

so you are suggesting that globalism has to do with immigration policy?

Nope.  That's bass ackwards.  Immigration policy has to do with globalism.

 

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

Yup.  That's what BBC would say...

 

Yes also known as covering the full facts of the story

[Danderman123]

29 minutes ago, impulse said:

Nope.  That's bass ackwards.  Immigration policy has to do with globalism.

 

very vague.

 

 

[impulse]

22 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

very vague.

What's vague about it?  Globalists want to ship labor around the world as if it's a commodity like iron ore.  To that end, they're jiggering immigration policy and enforcement.

 

The problem is, unlike iron ore, that labor comes with needs, and with beliefs that may and may not line up at all with where they're shipped.  That seems to be what's happening in Sweden.  Swedish law is not designed for gang warfare and child soldiers.  (from PM speech, above)  But it's real common where their problematic immigrants came from.  Hardly surprising that one group isn't compatible with the other.

 

And no, I'm not dismissing the collective colonial guilt behind allowing west Africans to flood into France, and...  and... (and probably Kurds to Sweden. too)

 

Edited September 30, 2023 by impulse

[Danderman123]

8 minutes ago, impulse said:

What's vague about it?  Globalists want to ship labor around the world as if it's a commodity like iron ore.  To that end, they're jiggering immigration policy and enforcement.

 

The problem is, unlike iron ore, that labor comes with needs, and with beliefs that may and may not line up at all with where they're shipped.  That seems to be what's happening in Sweden.  Swedish law is not designed for gang warfare and child soldiers.  (from PM speech, above)  But it's real common where their problematic immigrants came from.  Hardly surprising that one group isn't compatible with the other.

 

And no, I'm not dismissing the collective colonial guilt behind allowing west Africans to flood into France, and...  and... (and probably Kurds to Sweden. too)

 

It sounds like you are against Immigration.

 

Ever hear of the Chinese Exclusion Act?

[impulse]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

It sounds like you are against Immigration.

 

Ever hear of the Chinese Exclusion Act?

What, exactly, does that have to do with gang killings in Sweden?

 

[Danderman123]

18 minutes ago, impulse said:

What, exactly, does that have to do with gang killings in Sweden?

 

 

 

Sweden will take care of its crime problem.  Many countries have had to deal with the unique nature of immigrants before assimilation of immigrants into local culture.

 

Your agenda, however, does not seem to be about how to deal with immigrant culture, but to exclude them from entering the country.

 

There is nothing wrong with legal immigration.

 

[freeworld]

11 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

What's globalism?

From Wordnik:

globalism

glō′bə-lĭz″əm

noun

A national geopolitical policy in which the entire world is regarded as the appropriate sphere for a state's influence.

The development of social, cultural, technological, or economic networks that transcend national boundaries; globalization.

An ideology based on the belief that people, goods and information ought to be able to cross national borders unfettered.

A socio-economic system dedicated to free trade and free access to markets.

 

From Merriam-Webster:

 

globalism

noun

glob·al·ism ˈglō-bə-ˌli-zəm 

 

: a national policy of treating the whole world as a proper sphere for political influence

Edited September 30, 2023 by freeworld

[Danderman123]

So, Ronald Reagan was a globalist?

[JonnyF]

What a shame. It used to be such a peaceful country before... well you know...

[Pouatchee]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

The problem is, unlike iron ore, that labor comes with needs, and with beliefs that may and may not line up at all with where they're shipped. 

you seem to know your stuff. but if memory serves me well the bigger problem started after the arab spring and sweden had a pretty much open door policy that many arabs took advantage of

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, Mr Derek said:

Immigrants of course. The leader is Kurdish. Swedes are better than that.

The BBC won't mention it as it is destroys their leftist agenda.

Al Jazeera was very careful not to mention ethnicity as well, so I did a google search and came up with an admission by the PM that it was ethnic.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/swedish-pm-says-integration-immigrants-has-failed-fueled-gang-crime-2022-04-28/

Swedish PM says integration of immigrants has failed, fueled gang crime.

 

Given that they are apparently keen on allowing immigration of a certain ethnicity/ religion, seems that that policy has come to bite them on the posterior.

 

Can/ will they solve it? IMO not a chance, as that horse has departed long ago, leaving an empty stable.

[Danderman123]

How many anti-immigrant types posting here are living in Thailand?

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

And no, I'm not dismissing the collective colonial guilt behind allowing west Africans to flood into France, and...  and... (and probably Kurds to Sweden. too)

Far as I know, Sweden has no history of colonization since the days of Vikings. So I doubt they have a reason for white guilt.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

How many anti-immigrant types posting here are living in Thailand?

Farangs that pay large and go through the hassle of legally living in LOS are in no way comparable to the people that are the problem in so many western countries.

Also, most farangs are merely long stay tourists as have to renew permission to stay every year.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

How many anti-immigrant types posting here are living in Thailand?

Given your obvious sentiments, perhaps it would be relevant to ask how many immigrants are living in your house, or is it just other people that have to accommodate them?

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Far as I know, Sweden has no history of colonization since the days of Vikings. So I doubt they have a reason for white guilt.

AFAIK, you're correct.  I suspect (but I don't know) they've been pressured to take in some of the refugees from the mess that Bush/Blair made of Iraq et.al.

Honestly, this is the first I've read that it's gotten so bad in Sweden, though there have been rumblings.  And I haven't delved into the wingnut conspiracy sources completely.

 

 

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Farangs that pay large and go through the hassle of legally living in LOS are in no way comparable to the people that are the problem in so many western countries.

Also, most farangs are merely long stay tourists as have to renew permission to stay every year.

So, immigration and globalism are not the problem, it's the people who are immigrating. 

Edited September 30, 2023 by Danderman123

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

How many anti-immigrant types posting here are living in Thailand?

How many expats are forming gangs and engaging in street battles with police ?

 

The expats I know live a quiet life. Bring money into the country and support Thai people. 

 

Nobody is objecting to legal immigrants who contribute.