British man recounts shocking encounter with racist Russians in Phuket

[2baht]

Dasvidaniya! Phuketski! Patongski, Karongrad, Katasburg! 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, norfolkandchance said:

I don't like Rap either.

What leads you to believe that Rap music was being played by him ?

[geisha]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

From the article:

" a small restaurant and bar on the beach where all the items on the menu were in Russian. He explained that he turned on his favourite music playlist on the restaurant’s stereo ........... a bar and restaurant manager turned off his playlist after a group of Russians arrived. The manager then gave all control over the songs to the Russians. The music was switched to Russian songs, prompting the man to ask the Russian group to switch back to his playlist."

 

Then it started. Should have gone to another restaurant instead of trying to force his ways on other people.

I stayed 3 months in Kata Beach last year to visit my Thai and foreign friends. I lived there 20 years in the 80s till 2000. There was a Russian girl at the pool who blasted Russian music . One man asked her to put it off. She turned her head and ignored him. In a restaurant I used to go to in the past years, full of pushy Russians, sitting down where they want and shouting for their order, kids everywhere playing and running. They run their own businesses, private taxi runs, travel agencies, restaurants and probably online business too. They’ve bought up all the cheaper condos that they rent to family and friends , whole condos are mostly Russian, not forgetting the richer ones who buy the villas pushing up the prices even further. The same as happened in Bali. Because of them many foreign tourists will never come back. Pattaya , mostly Jomtien , will soon be in the same spot, there are far more choice of high rise condos in Jomtien for example than in Phuket. I left my condo behind the night market in Jomtien because of them , fortunately I have found one much more private which the owners will never rent/sell to Russians or Chinese .

[bob smith]

why anyone would want to visit Phuket to begin with is beyond me.

Edited October 3, 2023 by bob smith

[Enoon]

Headlines (and many contributors to AN) should stop claiming "racism" every time a nationality/ethnic group start having a pop at another nationality/ethnic group.

 

Russains are not a race, British are not a race.

 

Race, Ethnicity, Nationality........three different things.

 

How many ******* times must people be told!

 

 

 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Enoon

[scubascuba3]

3 minutes ago, bob smith said:

why anyone wants to visit Phuket to begin with is beyond me.

Yep, I've always avoided it. A place to be fleeced

[transam]

4 minutes ago, bob smith said:

why anyone wants to visit Phuket to begin with is beyond me.

Probably.............????

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Enoon said:

Headlines (and for that matter contributors to AN) should stop claiming "racism" every time a nationality/ethnic group start having a pop at another nationality/ethnic group.

 

Russains are not a race, British are not a race.

 

Race, Ethnicity, Nationality........three different things.

 

How many ******* times must people be told!

 

 

 

The British guy was Black and the Russians were White and the Black guys colour was mentioned by the Russians 

[Sticky Rice Balls]

I first went south when i first came to LOS in 2008...nothing happened to me

 

still have NO desire to go back to this day.....pass

[JimTripper]

2 hours ago, bignok said:

So go elsewhere no Russians

Try Ukraine for a vacation.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

Oh look teeruk, there’s a Russian restaurant with a Russian language only menu, playing Russian music …. let’s go in, it’s the perfect place for me to polish up my victim status.

 

N.B. I abhor any form of racism, but this guy was as much of the problem as the racist Russkies

[Jingthing]

49 minutes ago, aqua4 said:

The headline is strange. British man recounts shocking encounter with racist Russians in Phuket. I thought my word, white people calling white people racist in Thailand. This must be a new twist in the politically correct tales.

Not at all. 

Unless to people that incorrectly think all "white people" are one thing.

The dominant ethnicity in Russia is Slavic.

They see that as a race of course.

Which makes the Russian war of genocide in Ukraine Slavs against Slavs.

 

But this story is about a black guy from the UK. 

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Oh look teeruk, there’s a Russian restaurant with a Russian language only menu, playing Russian music …. let’s go in, it’s the perfect place for me to polish up my victim status.

 

N.B. I abhor any form of racism, but this guy was as much of the problem as the racist Russkies

I get what you're saying.

If I go to an "ethnic" restaurant features of that ethnicity there besides the food are a feature, not a bug.

On the other hand, perhaps the issue is the surprise about the decent dominance of the Russkie brigade in that area.

I remember during previous Russian boom times in Pattaya, the baht bus drivers started to speak in Russian, not English. 

[Jingthing]

13 minutes ago, Enoon said:

Headlines (and many contributors to AN) should stop claiming "racism" every time a nationality/ethnic group start having a pop at another nationality/ethnic group.

 

Russains are not a race, British are not a race.

 

Race, Ethnicity, Nationality........three different things.

 

How many ******* times must people be told!

 

 

 

Don't be naive.

Different things but perceived by the majority of humans as the same thing. 

[Jingthing]

47 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

It seems countries like Russia, Poland, Hungary are holding the fort against migrants so not too surprising some Russians are racist

Perhaps but Phuket isn't in Russia. Not yet anyway. So it's the Russkie hordes who are the migrants there.

[connda]

2 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

You've obviously never been a victim of racial abuse which is abhorrent on every level.

Racists are nothing but vile scum.

 

Well, unless the object of that racism is hatred toward ethnic Russians.  That's Ok.    Right?

[ChipButty]

My good friend Vladimir told me in Russia, Russians are racist look at all the ethnic minorities, 

[novacova]

31 minutes ago, bob smith said:

why anyone would want to visit Phuket to begin with is beyond me.

To visit Little Moscow 

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

My good friend Vladimir told me in Russia, Russians are racist look at all the ethnic minorities, 

What's your point?

Who does Putin send to die in Ukraine?

Overwhelmingly ethnic minorities from the provinces with not many "real" Russians from Moscow and St. Petersburg.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, connda said:

Well, unless the object of that racism is hatred toward ethnic Russians.  That's Ok.    Right?

I'd say no that's not OK. 

[spidermike007]

I have friends who know younger Russians. And they say they are kind, friendly and progressive. I have no idea what percentage of the population these younger people represent, nor how representative they are of the Russian population. Personally, I have met very few friendly Russians. Anywhere in the world. The vast majority of Russians I have met, seem to have very, very few redeeming qualities. It is no wonder.

I can only speak from my experience. Have run into alot of Russians both in the US, and on Phuket and Samui, 98% of them seem to be grumpy, unfriendly and gruff. Some of them are downright hostile. Likely a reflection of a very, very rough culture and environment. So, perhaps it is not a coincidence that the world is not standing up to support them and show them kindness? Just an observation.

I do not think it is a sense of entitlement. I think it is a reflection of the current culture. It was destroyed over a century of callous and murderous leadership. Stalin, Lenin, Khruschev, now Putin. They have become somewhat savage and crude. No grace, no finesse, no courtesy. Rather uncivilized. My family was from Russia a few generations back. I used to ask my great-grandmother when she was still around, why they didn't teach us anything about the old country. She would give me this look, and tell me "the reason we never teach you about the place we came from, is because the place we came from was the most horrific country on earth, it was the most destitute, horrible, oppressive place and we were thrilled to finally get out of there and leave it behind. That's why we don't teach you about the old country, the old country doesn't exist for us.

 

Some observations on why Russians seem to be so grumpy, annoying and unhappy:

 

In one series of studies with Helena Slobodskaya, a psychologist at Novosibirsk State University Research Institute of Physiology and Basic Medicine, we found that mothers in Russia, compared to American caregivers, reported that their infants and toddlers were more likely to demonstrate negative emotions, such as anger or frustration. The Russian mothers also reported that their young children exhibited lower levels of positive emotional expression, including smiling and laughter.

 

https://theconversation.com/why-are-russians-so-stingy-with-their-smiles-98799

 

According to the most optimistic reports, the average salary in Russian cities (apart from Moscow and Saint Petersburg) is 20,000–40,000 rubles a month. That is $330–660, less than $8000 a year. Sometimes more, if you served in the military and were engaged in local conflicts, or were employed by a wealthy oil company. But most of the time, much less. This all-embracing Russian poverty is everywhere: in people’s houses, clothes, the cars they drive, the food they eat, and the entertainment they have.

 

https://medium.com/@meohoh/twelve-reasons-why-russia-sucks-9ceb0feddcd6

 

To test this theory, Krys had thousands of people in 44 different countries judge a series of eight smiling and non-smiling faces on a scale of honesty and intelligence. He compared their answers to the country’s rankings of uncertainty avoidance from a 2004 study of 62 societies and ratings of corruption.

He found that in countries like Germany, Switzerland, China, and Malaysia, smiling faces were rated as significantly more intelligent than non-smiling people. But in Japan, India, Iran, South Korea, and—you guessed it—Russia, the smiling faces were considered significantly less intelligent. Even after controlling for other factors, like the economy, there was a strong correlation between how unpredictable a society was and the likelihood they would consider smiling unintelligent.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/05/culture-and-smiling/483827/

 

 

Edited October 3, 2023 by spidermike007

[DonniePeverley]

3 hours ago, bignok said:

So go elsewhere no Russians

 Racism should be highlighted, and kicked out. Not brushed under the carpet and told to move on. 

[connda]

1 hour ago, aqua4 said:

The headline is strange. British man recounts shocking encounter with racist Russians in Phuket. I thought my word, white people calling white people racist in Thailand. This must be a new twist in the politically correct tales.

Not strange.  The West has declared Open Season on all Russians.  If you hail from a Western country, you're suppose to fall in line and hate Russians, Russian ethnicity, Russian history and Russia culture.  That includes calling Russian businesses "racists."

[DonniePeverley]

41 minutes ago, Enoon said:

Headlines (and many contributors to AN) should stop claiming "racism" every time a nationality/ethnic group start having a pop at another nationality/ethnic group.

 

Russains are not a race, British are not a race.

 

Race, Ethnicity, Nationality........three different things.

 

How many ******* times must people be told!

 

 

 

 

 

The guy who faced racism was because he was black NOT because he was british.

 

That whole 'that's not a race so it isn't racist' plays straight from the racist handbook. They love to trot it out. 

[ravip]

One really don't have to be a victim of racial abuse to realise that it is abhorrent on every level. Racists are nothing but vile scum - very true, very true.

 

Unfortunately, racism has existed for centuries, albeit it been reduced (or on a low key) now, it still exists every where on this planet.

 

It's just that when you, a family member or a colleague experience it first hand, that we start condemning it vociferously.

 

Calling Thai people racists, is very strange (comparatively) and never heard of Russians on this count before.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, connda said:

Not strange.  The West has declared Open Season on all Russians.  If you hail from a Western country, you're suppose to fall in line and hate Russians, Russian ethnicity, Russian history and Russia culture.  That includes calling Russian businesses "racists."

I call B.S.

It's about Putin and his genocidal war. 

 

[retarius]

Unless you know the context and reality of the story, it makes little sense. There is however a lot of racism around the globe, even in sacred Britain where Steven Lawrence was beaten to death by white thugs and the police did nothing for years until public pressure was brought to bear.

[ravip]

5 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 Racism should be highlighted, and kicked out. Not brushed under the carpet and told to move on. 

YES! Not only with the Russians, with everyone!

[norfolkandchance]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What leads you to believe that Rap music was being played by him ?

That one went over your head again then.

[zhounan]

Racism is a disease that everyone has, no matter the colour of his ass.

 

Racism and reverse racism is a fact, and it's cleverly ridden by elites around the world to create tension and hatred among the masses of sub-humans, so they continues to laugh of us and rule us.