ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Wobblybob]

A quote from the highly intellectual Douglas Murray about the demonstrations in the UK. 

 

"Anyone in any doubt about what those marching today are calling for should know this. There would be peace tomorrow if Hamas laid down its arms. If the Israelis laid down their arms there would be a second Holocaust. The people marching either don't know this, or want it."

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

A quote from the highly intellectual Douglas Murray about the demonstrations in the UK. 

 

"Anyone in any doubt about what those marching today are calling for should know this. There would be peace tomorrow if Hamas laid down its arms. If the Israelis laid down their arms there would be a second Holocaust. The people marching either don't know this, or want it."

It's what they want.

[BarraMarra]

5 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Well past that, Israel have now exterminated 7,700 in Gaza, including 3,000 children. 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/inside-story/2023/10/27/what-trauma-do-children-suffer-in-israels-war-on-gaza#:~:text=More than 3%2C000 children have,according to Palestinian health authorities.

Israel calling israel calling this is a message to the Demons of Irael. We know you martyred 20,000 of our Children but your day of reconing will come this is lord Haw Haw here ends the message sighning off hiding in the rubble of Gaza.

[Morch]

 

6 hours ago, rabas said:

I basically agree. My point was US/Western high tech military might is a strong deterrent to Iran's normal adventurism, which in part got us to where we are and has been growing.  While two big aircraft carriers is good optics, it also suggests the US/West are taking risks seriously.

 

Although overt, direct support for Hamas is not in Iran's interest (as you say) nor its way, I still worry  about dangerous unintended paths to the future . Someone once explained to me that Iran's actions are very hard to influence, I think I was talking about Putin at the time.

 

As for destabilizing Iran, one can only hope. There's little stability except for the regime's iron fist. I've worked with/in Iran extensively, not many fancy the regime outside of rural religious enclaves. The locals speculate who carries a pocket razor. When the regime falls they'll dash into a toilet, shave, and exit saying Hallo! ready for business.

 

 

A day after Palestinian militant group Hamas launched its brutal attack on Israel, a curious video emerged out of Tehran’s Azadi stadium. Hundreds of soccer fans, gathered to watch a match between Perspolis FC and Gol Gohar Sirjan FC, chanted in unison: “Shove the Palestinian flag up your a**.”

 

The vulgar protest came in response to officials attempting to raise a Palestinian flag in the stadium to show support for the October 7 attack. But for the fans, it was another unwelcome mixing of politics and soccer, and a stark reminder of the Iranian government’s involvement in proxy battles in far-flung arenas.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/27/middleeast/iran-may-not-want-full-war-israel-mime-intl/index.html

Edited October 28, 2023 by Morch

[JBChiangRai]

8 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

Okay, anyone doing that is being intellectually dishonest, at best.

 

Quoting and posting a link to someone's interpretation of a law and pretending it is a link to the actual law is deplorable. I would call you a liar, but I doubt you know the difference. 

 

Is that better? 

 

No, it’s pretty much inline with the what I would expect from you.

 

I could post the IHL rules the summary came from, but I doubt you have the intellectual capacity to understand them.

[transam]

12 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Yes, Hamas are terrorists and baby murderers and the IDF are exactly the same, but still no better. 

Strange how you keep forgetting the PLANNED, and PAID FOR killing and mutilation of babies, isn't it, why is that...? 🤔

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

No, it’s pretty much inline with the what I would expect from you.

 

I could post the IHL rules the summary came from, but I doubt you have the intellectual capacity to understand them.

Summery? 

 

You could have linked to the facts, but instead you posted to some other anonymous ideolog's interpretation of the facts because you assume you are the only one smart enough to interpret the facts correctly, correct?

 

And then you call me a fool when you get called out for it. Typical. 

[JBChiangRai]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

Eeeer, how come, I don't have a Chinese MG, Capt. Mainwaring.............🤣

My days of not taking you seriously have come to a middle.

[transam]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Summery? 

 

You could have linked to the facts, but instead you posted to some other anonymous ideolog's interpretation of the facts because you assume you are the only one smart enough to interpret the facts correctly, correct?

 

And then you call me a fool when you get called out for it. Typical. 

He does that to every one when he's cornered........🤭

[JBChiangRai]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Summery? 

 

You could have linked to the facts, but instead you posted to some other anonymous ideolog's interpretation of the facts because you assume you are the only one smart enough to interpret the facts correctly, correct?

 

And then you call me a fool when you get called out for it. Typical. 

I forgot the world revolves around you. My bad

[2baht]

The criminal child killer Netanyahoo must be held to account for his atrocities!

[Jeff the Chef]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Strange how you keep forgetting the PLANNED, and PAID FOR killing and mutilation of babies, isn't it, why is that...? 🤔

Could it be I don't care, who kills who? Death is still death no matter who does it. The fact that you prefer them to be anyone other than Jews/Israeli's is up to you. 

I'd prefer no one getting killed period.

[transam]

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

Could it be I don't care, who kills who? Death is still death no matter who does it. The fact that you prefer them to be anyone other than Jews/Israeli's is up to you. 

I'd prefer no one getting killed period.

Of course, you don't care, not your agenda, thanks for telling us. 

What you should concentrate on, is, who starts these wars.

 

Are you a Putin fan too.........🤔

 

[Jeff the Chef]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Of course, you don't care, not your agenda, thanks for telling us. 

What you should concentrate on, is, who starts these wars.

 

Are you a Putin fan too.........🤔

 

As I said I prefer no one being killed, if you have a problem with that can I suggest you take it up with your maker.

[metisdead]

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[stevenl]

44 minutes ago, transam said:

Your figures maybe of interest when the aggressor is wiped out or surrenders. Until then, you are wasting your time.

Why not you sending an email to your chums that they cannot win, to cut and run to Iran....🤔

 

You're right, who cares, it's only 8000 deaths.

[CharlieH]

Post removed.

 

ENGLISH only please.

[Jeff the Chef]

53 minutes ago, transam said:

Your figures maybe of interest when the aggressor is wiped out or surrenders. Until then, you are wasting your time.

Why not you sending an email to your chums that they cannot win, to cut and run to Iran....🤔

 

Not a waste of my time stating figures which are freely available to anyone, just like to give you some more ammunition to post about who you think my chums are.

[transam]

11 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You're right, who cares, it's only 8000 deaths.

Not about caring, it is fact that aggressors cause civilian deaths by their actions and how resolving their actions.

But we will always get odd-balls dismissing the fact that aggressors must be put in their place, dismantled, same as the odd-balls with agendas.......🥴 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Not a waste of my time stating figures which are freely available to anyone, just like to give you some more ammunition to post about who you think my chums are.

Talking about odd-balls, it the information is freely available to us all, why do you bother.........?

[MrMojoRisin]

18 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

While the residents of Gaza are going to starve where does the leader and other Top Hamas leaders live? bet there not fighting with them in Gaza.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12684385/Israeli-prime-minister-Benjamin-Netanyahu-wife-Sara-decamped-luxury-mansion-deep-nuclear-bunker.html

[Jeff the Chef]

Just now, transam said:

Talking about odd-balls, it the information is freely available to us all, why do you bother.........?

Because I can, you don't have to read it if you feel it doesn't have any interest to you but others may see it differently.

[transam]

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

Because I can, you don't have to read it if you feel it doesn't have any interest to you but others may see it differently.

Doubt it, most replying to this thread already know your agenda, those not in your agenda clique are not interested......😉

[Jeff the Chef]

Just now, transam said:

Doubt it, most replying to this thread already know your agenda, those not in your agenda clique are not interested......😉

Thanks for the information.

[Nick Carter icp]

17 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Let me check my notes, count them up and get back to you.

 

   I'll help you with my own question .

 

   Taking hostages is a war crime : Hamas is guilty on 220 charges of that war crime 

Killing unarmed civilians is a war crime : Hamas is guilty of over 1000 war crimes on those charges

Raping the enemy is war crime : Hamas is guilty of those war crimes on an unspecified number 

Massacre and genocidal intent is a war crime : Hamas is guilty of that war crime 

Using Huma shields is a war crime : Hamas is guilty of that war crime multiple times by positioning rocket launchers in hospitals for one example 

Indiscriminate rocket attacks on civilian areas is a war crime : Hamas is guilty of those war crime charges 10 000 times 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Latest casualty rates from AP https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-death-toll-numbers-injured-5c9dc40bec95a8408c83f3c2fb759da0

Same source, the Hamas controlled Health Ministry at Gaza. Aid groups etc.

Similarly, aid group and organization working in Gaza need to play ball or else.

 

I do not doubt thousands die - but do question the total figures and the breakdown.

[Wobblybob]

7 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Latest casualty rates from AP https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-death-toll-numbers-injured-5c9dc40bec95a8408c83f3c2fb759da0

Associated Press is another liberal lefty news source, but irrespectively of that without the horrific evil slayings of the Palestinian terrorists on innocent Israelis none of this would be happening. Israel must do whatever is necessary to ensure that crimes of that nature never ever happens again. 

[Morch]

34 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You're right, who cares, it's only 8000 deaths.

 

According to Hamas controlled sources.

There is no indication if this includes Hamas men killed (during or after the 7/10 attack), there's no mention of male age groups.

There's no accounting for naturally occurring deaths as well during the fighting.

 

There's a great lose of life, for sure. Citing Hamas provided figures is a choice, though.

[Morch]

Cellular, internet service gradually returning to Gaza — report

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/cellular-internet-service-gradually-returning-to-gaza-report/

 

[JBChiangRai]

29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I'll help you with my own question .

 

   Taking hostages is a war crime : Hamas is guilty on 220 charges of that war crime 

Killing unarmed civilians is a war crime : Hamas is guilty of over 1000 war crimes on those charges

Raping the enemy is war crime : Hamas is guilty of those war crimes on an unspecified number 

Massacre and genocidal intent is a war crime : Hamas is guilty of that war crime 

Using Huma shields is a war crime : Hamas is guilty of that war crime multiple times by positioning rocket launchers in hospitals for one example 

Indiscriminate rocket attacks on civilian areas is a war crime : Hamas is guilty of those war crime charges 10 000 times 

I totally agree with you.