TAT confident of 4 million Chinese arrivals by end of year

[webfact]

The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) is optimistic that its target of 4 million Chinese arrivals by yearend will be achieved, despite the recent shootings at the Siam Paragon shopping mall in Bangkok and the Israel-Hamas war. Tour operators are, however, urging the government to extend visa exemption to Indian tourists, in addition to those from China and Uzbekistan, which they hope will help meet the target of 25-30 million tourist arrivals for the whole year.

 

According to TAT Governor Thapanee Kiatphaibool, the Siam Paragon shootings, in which a Chinese and a Myanmar national were killed, has had a short-term impact on Chinese tourists’ sentiment, as evidenced by the lack of cancellations by incentive and seminar groups , although some tour groups and individual tourists have postponed or cancelled their visits.

 

The TAT has also stepped up its publicity campaign to boost the image of Thailand, especially as regards the safety of visitors. The TAT will launch a marketing campaign to promote major events in Thailand for the third quarter of the year, including the Loy Krathong festival in November.

 

TOP: Chinese tourists are greeted by Thai dancers at the arrivals gate at Suvarnabhumi International Airport in Bangkok on September 25, 2023. / AFP

 

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[2baht]

8 minutes ago, webfact said:

The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) is optimistic that its target of 4 million Chinese arrivals by yearend will be achieved

Come on TAT! 4 million is very conservative for you??? 15 million, ok? 

[foreverlomsak]

It's easy, count them as they come off the plane, as they pass through Immigration and as they leave to  baggage halls/customs. Means you only need 1,350,000 actual heads on an airplane.

[connda]

I always love the TAT estimates that occur immediately after headlines like, "Chinese Arrivals Down 30%."  ????

[grego49]

New government same old TAT bullsh#$@t.

[Mavideol]

TAT ohhhh TAT stop the bs as your estimates/high hopes are completely off ....

Chinese tourist arrivals plunged nearly 30% week over week

https://thainewsroom.com/2023/10/10/chinese-tourist-arrivals-plunged-nearly-30-week-over-week/

 

Chinese tourist arrivals plunged nearly 30% week over week

 

Edited October 11, 2023 by Mavideol

[dinsdale]

[TroubleandGrumpy]

Isn't this from Thai BS organisations that claims 3.8 million 'tourists' have arrived from Malaysia in 2023, and they all spent 50K Baht during their visit, generated 200 Billion Baht in 'economic benefits'?

Even the tallest village idiot should know that the vast majority of 'visitors' from Malaysia come over the southern border (walk) - for work, family and other social reasons. 

Maybe I am wrong, but I have not seen any large numbers of Malaysians about in Bangkok, Chonburi, Pattaya or Rayong - and someone said on their vlog recently  'They aint here in Phuket'.  Are they all going to Hua Hin maybe? Chiang Mai? Isaan? 

[retarius]

I couldn't sleep lat night worrying whether there would be 3.99 million Chinese arrivals or over 4 million. Thank you from the heart of my bottom, TAT, for confirming in cast iron fashion that it will be over 4 million. 

[Photoguy21]

2 hours ago, 2baht said:

Come on TAT! 4 million is very conservative for you??? 15 million, ok? 

I assume you mean per week. By end of year I would assume 5 billion would have visited.

[kinyara]

TAT's original target for Chinese arrivals for 2023 was 5 million, so 4 million would represent a 20% shortfall from their expectations at the start of the year.

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, kinyara said:

TAT's original target for Chinese arrivals for 2023 was 5 million, so 4 million would represent a 20% shortfall from their expectations at the start of the year.

Chinese, always leaves you hungry for more. 

[kinyara]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Isn't this from Thai BS organisations that claims 3.8 million 'tourists' have arrived from Malaysia in 2023, and they all spent 50K Baht during their visit, generated 200 Billion Baht in 'economic benefits'?

Even the tallest village idiot should know that the vast majority of 'visitors' from Malaysia come over the southern border (walk) - for work, family and other social reasons. 

Maybe I am wrong, but I have not seen any large numbers of Malaysians about in Bangkok, Chonburi, Pattaya or Rayong - and someone said on their vlog recently  'They aint here in Phuket'.  Are they all going to Hua Hin maybe? Chiang Mai? Isaan? 

You're 7 foot 5 tall and wrong. ????

Edited October 11, 2023 by kinyara
correction

[Chris Daley]

Spoiler:  The tourism figures are actually just bus loads of Thai students on school trips.

[StayinThailand2much]

4 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Even the tallest village idiot should know that the vast majority of 'visitors' from Malaysia come over the southern border (walk) - for work, family and other social reasons. 

Most Malaysians come for day-trips, not travelling further north than Hat Yai. Why Thais love tourists who only come for a few days (Chinese, Malaysians), heaven knows; probably because they like to see tourists leave again quickly...

Edited October 11, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[Enoon]

"TOP: Chinese tourists are greeted by Thai dancers at the arrivals gate"

 

No they aren't.

 

They are being greeted by puppets and puppeteers.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2023 by Enoon

[sammieuk1]

But only if you promise not to shoot, drown, or run them down ???? 

[DonniePeverley]

There has been a huge influx of Chinese tourists these past few weeks unfortunately. 

 

The big busses are back. The bus trying to go down a narrow Soi is back. 

 

The leader holding up a flag followed by 20-30 Chinese are back. 

 

Packing out the BTS is back. 

 

Throwing litter and spitting is back. 

 

Not buying anything but crowding is back. 

 

Walking around and just hearing Mandarin is back.

 

Unfortunately there also seems to be a rather unpleasant aggressive type of Chinese tourist, who may well be drawn by no visa fees. 

 

If you live nearby a touristy area, unfortunately you are going to start feeling like you are in China. 

 

I just wonder what is the maximum number TAT would be happy with Chinese tourists before it gets too much for the local population and infrustructure? 

Edited October 11, 2023 by DonniePeverley

[JoeyMac]

Astonishing number of Chinese tourists this past week. Never seen numbers like this before, since before the pandemic. 

 

Absolutely horrific. 

 

 

 

 

[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) is optimistic that its target of 4 million Chinese arrivals by yearend will be achieved, despite the recent shootings at the Siam Paragon shopping mall in Bangkok and the Israel-Hamas war.

Putting a spin on a decreasing market from China.

[IndomitableSpirit]

Come on you guys, let's just give this to them. Their magic ball made from China gives them hope!????

 

As I have mentioned before TAT should try focusing on other countries. There are many Chinese(not in China) who they can pull in as well.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

On 10/11/2023 at 3:52 PM, kinyara said:

You're 7 foot 5 tall and wrong. ????

There you are. Shouldn't you be getting back to your village? I am sure they miss you. Yes I am sure they do.

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

On 10/11/2023 at 10:53 PM, DonniePeverley said:

There has been a huge influx of Chinese tourists these past few weeks unfortunately. 

The big busses are back. The bus trying to go down a narrow Soi is back. 

The leader holding up a flag followed by 20-30 Chinese are back. 

Packing out the BTS is back. 

Throwing litter and spitting is back. 

Not buying anything but crowding is back. 

Walking around and just hearing Mandarin is back.

Unfortunately there also seems to be a rather unpleasant aggressive type of Chinese tourist, who may well be drawn by no visa fees. 

If you live nearby a touristy area, unfortunately you are going to start feeling like you are in China. 

I just wonder what is the maximum number TAT would be happy with Chinese tourists before it gets too much for the local population and infrustructure? 

10 Billion - then TAT would get paid HUGE bonuses for bringing exconomic properity and happiness to the Thai people.  I am sure that in a country run by people that have no care about repairing the roads and footpaths (and everything else), that the people running the place dont give a rat's rear about how badly Chinese behave - as long as they spend money.

[Laughing Gravy]

I am coming from China in two weeks for a brief visit. I wonder if I will be classed as one of those 4 million.????

[observer90210]

They may come...but they rarely spend in non-chinese run businesses...

[retarius]

I must admit to being intrigued by this endless forecasting about 4 million or not. Suppose it ends up at 3.95 million? Is that a disaster for Thailand. Will the country enter a deep depression? Or will it continue on as it has been doing? Suppose it is 4.05 million, will the sky open and millions of money filled envelopes float down and bring joy back to the people? Somehow I don't think so. The fact is 4 million, less than 4 million or more than 4 million makes little difference to anyone other than the owners of hotels and travel businesses who get a little more or little less profit.....I'm making a possibly totally untrue assumption in here that if 4.05 million Chinese arrive the hotel and business owners won't award their employees a 50% pay rise in which case the difference in numbers may affect a lot of people.? I could be wrong of course.

Edited October 13, 2023 by retarius

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

I must admit to being intrigued by this endless forecasting about 4 million or not. Suppose it ends up at 3.95 million? Is that a disaster for Thailand. Will the country enter a deep depression? Or will it continue on as it has been doing? Suppose it is 4.05 million, will the sky open and millions of money filled envelopes float down and bring joy back to the people? Somehow I don't think so. The fact is 4 million, less than 4 million or more than 4 million makes little difference to anyone other than the owners of hotels and travel businesses who get a little more or little less profit.....I'm making a possibly totally untrue assumption in here that if 4.05 million Chinese arrive the hotel and business owners won't award their employees a 50% pay rise in which case the difference in numbers may affect a lot of people.? I could be wrong of course.

Excellent point/questions.  The answere IMO is ' They dont have a clue'.   A few weeks ago a report was released that showed clearly that although there had been a big growth in tourism in late 2022 and early 2023, there had been no measurable positive impact on the local economy at the grassroots level. That of course was quickly forgotten, and they made even more efforts to increase tourism - including Visa exempt entry for the Chinese. This was done while they constantly looked the other way regarding the constant news about the amount of crimes being committed by 'Chinese' people. 

 

To understand what the answers are to your questions, means knowing how the rich got richer during Covid, while the vast majority of us got poorer.  The uber rich are very good at 'making money' during difficult times - they and the media thrive during those periods - they love a 'good war'.  That is the same in Thailand.