Not Liking Thai People

[fittobethaied]

52 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Wow, this is alarming. 

 

Thailand has been my home for more than 20 years. I've worked, travelled and studied in over 40 countries. I've always found the Thais to be the happiest, friendliest, most courteous people I've ever met. 

Sure occasionally I come across the very rare unpleasant Thai but very few over the many years. 

 

This article has really shocked me, the many comments, how some people can live in Thailand and be so negative, I'm sure most of the miserable people living here in Thailand would be miserable wherever they chose to live on planet earth. 

 

This article has highlighted how lucky I am, to be so happy living here in Thailand amongst these beautiful pleasant people.

 

Thanks God 🙏

 

I traveled the world for 20 years doing business, and I lived in Hong Kong, Taipei, Vietnam and Manila for extended periods of time. I moved to Thailand thinking that Thais would for the most part be like all the other SE Asians that I had met, but boy was I wrong. I have a very keen sense of spiritual discernment, and I have never felt this uncomfortable in any other country where I have lived or visited. We are surrounded on all sides by evil and chaos in this place. I don't judge a people by the way they smile at me with their flaky smiles, but by their character, and outside of my immediate family I have never met a Thai that I would trust as far as I could throw him or her. I find them in general to be detestable in so many ways. I'm sure that we all have varied experiences and opinions, but these just happen to be mine for what it's worth.

[georgegeorgia]

6 minutes ago, fittobethaied said:

 

I traveled the world for 20 years doing business, and I lived in Hong Kong, Taipei, Vietnam and Manila for extended periods of time. I moved to Thailand thinking that Thais would for the most part be like all the other SE Asians that I had met, but boy was I wrong. I have a very keen sense of spiritual discernment, and I have never felt this uncomfortable in any other country where I have lived or visited. We are surrounded on all sides by evil and chaos in this place. I don't judge a people by the way they smile at me with their flaky smiles, but by their character, and outside of my immediate family I have never met a Thai that I would trust as far as I could throw him or her. I find them in general to be detestable in so many ways. I'm sure that we all have varied experiences and opinions, but these just happen to be mine for what it's worth.

Strange , I said that about Filipino people, 

I went to Philippines first time last year after going to Thailand for the last 25 years , I would actually "trust" a Thai person more than a Filipino, maybe it was just the "area's" of the Philippines where I stayed though 

[bignok]

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Your girlfriend is different? You know everyone thinks that

 

 

All people are different. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

18 minutes ago, fittobethaied said:

 I have never met a Thai that I would trust

I've worked most countries in Asia. 

In my workplace I supervised local boys, I found trust doesn't exist, you must check every job making sure what they say is done. 

 

Its an Asian thing. 

[sanooki]

Instead of saying if one encounters all aholes, then he must be the ahole, I will say that encounters rely on the beliefs and experiences of the people involved. Thai people often seem to have a simplified stereotype ingrained that comes mainly from the media and other Thais amplifying that stereotype. Their encounters with foreigners are limited, and many of them may fit the pattern of their stereotype. They also have their own, often cookiecutter, motivations based on their somewhat limited prospects, that come into play. So, it's pretty rare, in my years here, to encounter someone who has an independent and unbiased stance to me, who must outwardly appear the same as any other foreigner they've ever seen. Although understandable, it does sometimes get very tiring to seemingly never be able to make progress in these challenging relationships over many years. I try to look at the advantages, which sometimes is not easy, but always to me seem to outweigh the disadvantages.

[BigStar]

10 hours ago, quake said:

 

I doubt that.

It was most likely,  wind.

 

No, he was businesslike but quite personable there with his capos in his well-appointed office overlooking Pattaya Nua. I remember well our brief conversation. And I also found City Hall staff pleasant to interact with. Gave one lady in the pink card back office my phone number. Still waiting, ha ha.

 

They all did their jobs thoroughly. Caught it that the official MFA-approved translation spelled my name differently than on my Chanote. I had to go get an amendment from the Land Office. No big deal, but it was an extra step for me in the process.

 

So there you are. The most dreaded, frustrating, horrendous, knicker-soiling interaction with Thais imagined by our Thai bashers: piece o' cake.

 

Point of View is worth 80 IQ points.

     —Alan Kay

Edited October 26, 2023 by BigStar

[Irish star]

I have no respect for Thai women anymore, except Waitresses, the rest are downright scammers , especially now with banks coming down hard on families  for there Covid Loans , none were bar girls either mostly Korat girls 

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Irish star said:

I have no respect for Thai women anymore, except Waitresses, the rest are downright scammers , especially now with banks coming down hard on families  for there Covid Loans , none were bar girls either mostly Korat girls 

Bit early to be drinking?

[NorthernRyland]

41 minutes ago, fittobethaied said:

I have a very keen sense of spiritual discernment, and I have never felt this uncomfortable in any other country where I have lived or visited. We are surrounded on all sides by evil and chaos in this place. I don't judge a people by the way they smile at me with their flaky smiles, but by their character, and outside of my immediate family I have never met a Thai that I would trust as far as I could throw him or her. I find them in general to be detestable in so many ways. I'm sure that we all have varied experiences and opinions, but these just happen to be mine for what it's worth.

 

How so? This is pretty extreme so I'm curious.

 

I have many misgivings with Thai people but nothing spiritual like you describe. I wonder if the people that do well with Thai people have lower expectations of other people? I think it's possible if i really expected Thai's to meet my own standards and beliefs then held them accountable then I would have real problems but I tend to take them as they are.

[NorthernRyland]

15 minutes ago, Irish star said:

I have no respect for Thai women anymore, except Waitresses, the rest are downright scammers , especially now with banks coming down hard on families  for there Covid Loans , none were bar girls either mostly Korat girls 

I've had 3 girlfriends in Thailand and they never asked me for anything. Only my wife now has started asking for things since I have a good job but when I was broke she never asked for anything. For example I agreed to buy her a new Flip 5 phone (buying new phones is stupid IMO so I don't support her here) but she has to pay me back by covering the electricity. 🙂 Very little money problems if you find the right kind of women.

[NoshowJones]

On 10/25/2023 at 10:50 AM, pomchop said:

Does OP speak even a few words of Thai?  It never ceases to amaze me how many guys can live in thailand for years and never learn more than 10 words of Thai.

 

I have always said that the real reason i return to thailand year after year is the Thai people. 

 

The bars, the girls, the cheap prices all come and go but the Thai people continue to amaze me year after year with how very nice the vast majority of Thai people are if you at least make an attempt to joke around with them a bit....and if you take time to learn at least a few very basic phrases you will be rewarded with many smiles.

The majority of Thai people are about the most pleasant and honest people you will meet, but when they mount a motorbike or jump into a car that all changes drastically. The dreadful road statistics back this up.

[JimTripper]

13 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

The majority of Thai people are about the most pleasant and honest people you will meet, but when they mount a motorbike or jump into a car that all changes drastically. The dreadful road statistics back this up.

The usual driving excuse again.

 

Driving behavior is not a one-off. It's a reflection of your inner state. If you're irritable, rushed, impulsive & angry, it's reflected in the way you drive. Maybe you are fooled by fake smiles when people are outside a vehicle.

Edited October 26, 2023 by JimTripper

[georgegeorgia]

55 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I've worked most countries in Asia. 

In my workplace I supervised local boys, I found trust doesn't exist, you must check every job making sure what they say is done. 

 

Its an Asian thing. 

I do however find Filipinos seem to excel and are trustworthy in jobs they do.

I have worked with hundreds in Australia and they do seem in most times to go over their work requirements, maybe it's to please the bosses I don't know , but they do jobs others dont do eg Aged care nursing etc 

 

I find them hard working Filipino who will do all the overtime etc in Australia,are they trustworthy? I would say not in my opinion ,they will lick the bosses bum 

 

Anyway this thread is about Thai people not filopino people !!!!!

Edited October 26, 2023 by georgegeorgia

[Irish star]

38 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Bit early to be drinking?

I don t drink wise guy , maybe I should use you as an example , do you have your Chang Vest on. Any more suggestions to be like you 

Edited October 26, 2023 by Irish star

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, Irish star said:

I don t drink wise guy , maybe I should use you as an example , do you have your Chang Vest on. Any more suggestions to be like you 

Maybe you should drink......555

Edited October 26, 2023 by Will B Good

[Irish star]

On 10/26/2023 at 12:09 PM, Will B Good said:

Maybe you should drink......555

And be like you , Nah I’m good , I might get intoxicated and start wearing frigging Bow Tie’s <deleted>

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, bignok said:

All people are different. 

Degrees are easy here, they just turn up and get one, everyone passes, similar to getting 5* at McDonald's 

[SAFETY FIRST]

21 minutes ago, Irish star said:

I don t drink wise guy ,

He one of 3 wise men. 

Edited October 26, 2023 by SAFETY FIRST

[bignok]

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

Degrees are easy here, they just turn up and get one, everyone passes, similar to getting 5* at McDonald's 

Many degrees are easy in any country. Many Thais drop out after the 9th grade though.

 

 

[Vibora99]

where are you going to move? If you live here it's because you're starving. Go to the jungle or will the monkeys bother you there?

[Irish star]

5 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

He one of 3 wise men. 

 

According to the Bible, the Wise Men were three middle eastern kings— Gaspar, Melchior, and Baltasar—who felt compelled by God and a new star in the sky to go to Jerusalem and bring gifts to the son of God who was to be born. 

 

Wise guys are mafia Geezus , who reads fairy tales lol

[NorthernRyland]

1 hour ago, JimTripper said:

Driving behavior is not a one-off. It's a reflection of your inner state. If you're irritable, rushed, impulsive & angry, it's reflected in the way you drive. Maybe you are fooled by fake smiles when people are outside a vehicle.

 

IMO Thai's are pretty anti-social outside of their immediate family and they aren't looking out for people around them. It's a real sore point for the country if you ask me.

[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

That's always makes me cringe too. Schools in America are pathetic in so many ways (I dropped out of HS at 17 it was so painful). All that matters are the kids really. I was raised in a university town with lots of government and research jobs so the kids I went to school with had higher than average intelligence as their parents where in these sectors. It made a huge difference in my life.

 

Now I imagine if I put my kids (don't have them though) in Thai school where I live now. The majority of the kids would be from parents who were working in farms or selling things by the side of the street and food stalls. 100% guaranteed they would come out lower IQ just from that alone. That's the real reason people put their kids into private schools, that is to have their kids socialize with kids from other families that could afford the school in the first place.

I can remember when I was working in the iron ore industry in the sixties in WA. Port Hedland had a sizeable Aboriginal population. Every white parent in town that could afford it sent their kids to boarding schools in Perth.

If the kids stayed in Port Hedland, it would only be a couple months before they would be speaking pidgin English just like the Aboriginal kids.

[BusyB]

On 10/25/2023 at 1:13 AM, spidermike007 said:

 

Thank you. That was very well put very well articulated. I think alot of what we get back in life has alot to do with what we are putting out there. So the first thing to do is question thyself, the attitude you are bringing to the table, what you are projecting, and whether or not the kind of reaction that you're getting is in any way a reflection of any of that. 

 

I find most Thais to be very pleasant to be around. 

 

AKA the world is your mirror - what do you see in it?

[NorthernRyland]

17 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I can remember when I was working in the iron ore industry in the sixties in WA. Port Hedland had a sizeable Aboriginal population. Every white parent in town that could afford it sent their kids to boarding schools in Perth.

If the kids stayed in Port Hedland, it would only be a couple months before they would be speaking pidgin English just like the Aboriginal kids.

Reminds me of this one

 

 

[JimTripper]

34 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I can remember when I was working in the iron ore industry in the sixties in WA. Port Hedland had a sizeable Aboriginal population. Every white parent in town that could afford it sent their kids to boarding schools in Perth.

If the kids stayed in Port Hedland, it would only be a couple months before they would be speaking pidgin English just like the Aboriginal kids.

Ditto for the adults. One becomes like the locals eventually, unless you have a tight group of expats around and stick exclusively to that group for socialization.

[Caldera]

On 10/24/2023 at 10:58 PM, JimTripper said:

I no longer want to be around thai people.

 

I'm finding them annoying and just not enjoyable to interact with. They seem to be in a rush, stressed out, etc. Is it time for me to move?

 

You answered your question in your very first sentence.

 

You no longer want to be around Thai people, Thailand is filled to the brim with them.

[newnative]

    Yes, get going immediately, if not sooner.  I suspect, though, that you will come to be unsatisfied and unhappy with wherever you end up.  And, wherever you end up, I won't be surprised if you'll soon find something, other than yourself, to blame for your dissatisfaction with your life.  Then, you'll likely start looking around for the next place to move to--thinking that if you can just find the right place, your life will finally be hunky dory.  I think that is apparent to most of us who have been reading your posts on the Forum.  

    Brace yourself for a hard truth.  It's you, not your environment, that is the root of your unsatisfied life.  You have been living in Pattaya and have found it wanting.  Now, you've decided, it's not just Pattaya, it's also the Thai people.  It's anything and everything, but certainly not you.  Yes, unfortunately, it's you.  

    Pattaya is a huge city.  You can be in town with all the entertainments, if you want to.  You can be in any of the many  quieter beach areas, anywhere from south Jomtien to Wong Amat, if you want to.  You can choose to be on the Darkside, with hundreds of housing projects to choose from, if you want to.  Ditto with the huge selection of condos to rent or buy all over town, from low-rise to high-rise, in big projects and small.  Wherever you end up in Pattaya, the city offers plenty in the way of entertainment, shopping choices from huge malls to fresh markets, services for just about anything, and health care facilities--certainly much more than the American city I lived in.  There's plenty here to make every day interesting, but you first need to have some interests--true wherever you hang your hat.

   There's all sorts of sports available, from badminton, golf, cycling, bowling, hiking, snorkeling, scuba diving, parasailing, volleyball, yoga, working out at a gym, swimming--just about anything is on offer.  For socializing, there are expat groups, clubs, and volunteering opportunities.  Bangkok, with everything it has to offer, is less than 2 hours away to explore and enjoy.  Just scratching the surface and, meanwhile, doing all this with year-round nice weather.

    In a nutshell, if you can't be satisfied in a big city like Pattaya, with all its variety, how is the next place going to be any different?  Any better?   You seem to have no apparent interests that have been mentioned in your posts, other than spending a lot of time at the bars, where you seem to meet people you find unsatisfactory, to go with your new view of Thai people, also falling short of the mark.  Yes, I think it's definitely time for you to move on, but think a bit on this:

    Today's Facebook related a story of an old woman, recently widowed, going into a nursing home.  The attendant escorted her to her new room, describing it on the way.  "I love it!", she exclaimed.  The attendant asked her how she could love it, having not seen it yet.  She replied that seeing it didn't matter. 

    Happiness, she said, is something that you decide on, ahead of time.  Whether she likes the new room or how the furniture is arranged, is not important.  What matters, she explains, is not the arrangement of the furniture, but the arrangement of her mind.  In her mind, she already decided to love her new living arrangement, no matter what it turned out to be.  In her mind, she has arranged it to put aside all the negatives of her now very-changed life, and, instead, focus on, and fully embrace, the positives.  At this stage in her life, she tries to disregard what may not work well in her old body, and rejoice at what still does work.   

     That, essentially, is how she has lived her life, greeting each new day as a precious gift, to be made the most of.  She relates that, as she has lived her life, she has deposited wonderful memories in the 'memory bank' of her mind.  Now that she is in her twilight years, she can withdraw those wonderful memories to savor.  She also wryly notes that, even at her age, she is still making deposits in her memory bank.  

     Some might find all this silly and sappy to the max but I do try to live my life--especially as the years advance--along those same lines, to try to accent the positive, rather than the negative, and to try to appreciate the time I have been given, and make the most of it.  I'm not sure what you have in your 'memory bank', JT, but, from your posts, your account seems negative.  Maybe, starting tomorrow, try beginning the day with a positive attitude, and do something memorable with your day.

     

    

     

[khunPer]

On 10/24/2023 at 5:58 PM, JimTripper said:

Is it time for me to move?

Apparently it seems so...

[JimTripper]

41 minutes ago, newnative said:

    Yes, get going immediately, if not sooner.  I suspect, though, that you will come to be unsatisfied and unhappy with wherever you end up.  And, wherever you end up, I won't be surprised if you'll soon find something, other than yourself, to blame for your dissatisfaction with your life.  Then, you'll likely start looking around for the next place to move to--thinking that if you can just find the right place, your life will finally be hunky dory.  I think that is apparent to most of us who have been reading your posts on the Forum.  

    Brace yourself for a hard truth.  It's you, not your environment, that is the root of your unsatisfied life.  You have been living in Pattaya and have found it wanting.  Now, you've decided, it's not just Pattaya, it's also the Thai people.  It's anything and everything, but certainly not you.  Yes, unfortunately, it's you.  

    Pattaya is a huge city.  You can be in town with all the entertainments, if you want to.  You can be in any of the many  quieter beach areas, anywhere from south Jomtien to Wong Amat, if you want to.  You can choose to be on the Darkside, with hundreds of housing projects to choose from, if you want to.  Ditto with the huge selection of condos to rent or buy all over town, from low-rise to high-rise, in big projects and small.  Wherever you end up in Pattaya, the city offers plenty in the way of entertainment, shopping choices from huge malls to fresh markets, services for just about anything, and health care facilities--certainly much more than the American city I lived in.  There's plenty here to make every day interesting, but you first need to have some interests--true wherever you hang your hat.

   There's all sorts of sports available, from badminton, golf, cycling, bowling, hiking, snorkeling, scuba diving, parasailing, volleyball, yoga, working out at a gym, swimming--just about anything is on offer.  For socializing, there are expat groups, clubs, and volunteering opportunities.  Bangkok, with everything it has to offer, is less than 2 hours away to explore and enjoy.  Just scratching the surface and, meanwhile, doing all this with year-round nice weather.

    In a nutshell, if you can't be satisfied in a big city like Pattaya, with all its variety, how is the next place going to be any different?  Any better?   You seem to have no apparent interests that have been mentioned in your posts, other than spending a lot of time at the bars, where you seem to meet people you find unsatisfactory, to go with your new view of Thai people, also falling short of the mark.  Yes, I think it's definitely time for you to move on, but think a bit on this:

    Today's Facebook related a story of an old woman, recently widowed, going into a nursing home.  The attendant escorted her to her new room, describing it on the way.  "I love it!", she exclaimed.  The attendant asked her how she could love it, having not seen it yet.  She replied that seeing it didn't matter. 

    Happiness, she said, is something that you decide on, ahead of time.  Whether she likes the new room or how the furniture is arranged, is not important.  What matters, she explains, is not the arrangement of the furniture, but the arrangement of her mind.  In her mind, she already decided to love her new living arrangement, no matter what it turned out to be.  In her mind, she has arranged it to put aside all the negatives of her now very-changed life, and, instead, focus on, and fully embrace, the positives.  At this stage in her life, she tries to disregard what may not work well in her old body, and rejoice at what still does work.   

     That, essentially, is how she has lived her life, greeting each new day as a precious gift, to be made the most of.  She relates that, as she has lived her life, she has deposited wonderful memories in the 'memory bank' of her mind.  Now that she is in her twilight years, she can withdraw those wonderful memories to savor.  She also wryly notes that, even at her age, she is still making deposits in her memory bank.  

     Some might find all this silly and sappy to the max but I do try to live my life--especially as the years advance--along those same lines, to try to accent the positive, rather than the negative, and to try to appreciate the time I have been given, and make the most of it.  I'm not sure what you have in your 'memory bank', JT, but, from your posts, your account seems negative.  Maybe, starting tomorrow, try beginning the day with a positive attitude, and do something memorable with your day.

So why are you here, everything you needed was in your head back in your native country 🤣.