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HIV/AIDS. Do you take precations? PrEP. Condom. Abstain.

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Just now, Ben Zioner said:

Really?:stoner:

It may be old-fashioned of me, but i think the sex is always better if the female enjoys herself too.

i still remember a girl I used to date when we were both in our twenties. She said she would start getting wet as soon as she heard my car pulling up at her parents' house.

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    Yeah I hear anecdotally that many older farang don't use condoms or use PrEP, they won't admit it on here though, they also don't get tested.   I use PrEP plus recently started doxy PEP, get

  • scubascuba3
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    This has just been posted on Facebook, good current story, farang with AIDS, didn't know, probably didn't bother getting tested, stuck in private hospital no money to cover it etc etc   http

  • Whilst the stats make it seem highly unlikely, what matters the most - and you could never know - is how high the viral load is at time of 'meeting'   If the person was recently infected / untr

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28 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It may be old-fashioned of me, but i think the sex is always better if the female enjoys herself too.

i still remember a girl I used to date when we were both in our twenties. She said she would start getting wet as soon as she heard my car pulling up at her parents' house.

I knew  you  were  a real man.

33 minutes ago, Shop mak said:

 

Oh really, please explain further than a short misleading statement.

 

Have you ever seen a AIDS patient on the last stage?

Reduced to 30 kilos weight, unable to reach the bathroom, need diaper, unable to feed themself.

What of this is BS?

Yes, and do you remember that it was a crisis in Africa? And what was the explanation given? That Africans are a bunch of savages who screw 15 times a day without condoms? But could the compromised immunity in Ethiopia have anything to do with malnutrition instead maybe? 

 

One more link and then I'm outta here. I won't waste any more time debating this. 

 

https://medium.com/the-monthly/the-foo-fighters-aids-denialism-should-be-on-the-record-6e33666fdc3c

argued HIV did not cause AIDS — and that HIV was, in fact, harmless and non-contagious. Alive and Well argued that AIDS was likely caused by recreational drug use and/or the very antiretroviral drugs used to treat HIV patients

51 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

 

Done that with girlfriends in the past.

The odds of contracting HIV and other STD's goes up significantly if blood is involved in the exchange of bodily fluids. It's the reason anal sex is more risky. No natural lubrication.

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47 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

One more link and then I'm outta here. I won't waste any more time debating this. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Shop mak said:

Hiv/AIDS, Do you take precations?

Never go with prostitutes.

Always use condom.

Take PrEP.

In a relationship/married, not a concern.

 

Do you know that more than 20% of new transmissions in Thailand are between married couples and only 1% are from commercial sex?

 

Also, the HIV prevalence in regular women is 0.5% and in venue based sex workers it is just a little higher at 0.7%

 

You'd think the difference would be greater, right? Fascinating. 

 

 

https://hivhub.ddc.moph.go.th/Download/RRTTR/Factsheet2020_ENG_Final.pdf

 

But, yeah, the non-venue based sex workers (e.g. street walkers, like you said) are far riskier.

 

Interestingly, bar girls were included as non-venue based (in that study you quoted).

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The female vagina stretches to accommodate whatever size penis is inserted.

If a Thai woman has sex with Thai men, who along with most Asians have smaller penises, a Westerner will probably feel her vagina is tight, even after multiple Thai partners.

If you are going to reprove other posters for being ignorant, I suggest you bone up on epidemiology and biology first. Pun fully intended.

 

As opposed to the non-female vagina?

37 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

As opposed to the non-female vagina?

I made it a tautology to avoid confusion with post-op ladyboys.

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Yes, and do you remember that it was a crisis in Africa? And what was the explanation given? That Africans are a bunch of savages who screw 15 times a day without condoms? But could the compromised immunity in Ethiopia have anything to do with malnutrition instead maybe? 

 

One more link and then I'm outta here. I won't waste any more time debating this. 

 

https://medium.com/the-monthly/the-foo-fighters-aids-denialism-should-be-on-the-record-6e33666fdc3c

argued HIV did not cause AIDS — and that HIV was, in fact, harmless and non-contagious. Alive and Well argued that AIDS was likely caused by recreational drug use and/or the very antiretroviral drugs used to treat HIV patients


Quotes a medium article as fact. 
 

educate yourself, my friend. 

6 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

I currently abstain for a number of reasons; incl. not being too interested in hookers in general, and, particularly, not a fan of either, online hookers, or ugly hookers... The money saved I spend for travelling instead.

do you beat your bishop?

that's a great gig, you make 1000 baht each time.

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I don't remember the exact statistics, but for a man getting AIDS from sex with a woman in very low.

If a guy has sex with let's say 1000 women, and 10% of them have AIDS, the statistic not to get AIDS is still in his favor.

 

Given that HIV is transmitted by fluids, a condom is the protection of choice. I was once asked by some farangs if I thought oral on a BG was OK, so I thought about it and said that as long as one didn't have bleeding in one's mouth it would be OK. I have read that HIV is not likely to be transmitted orally, as the mouth is not friendly to the virus.

I've read about a man that was married to an HIV positive woman and did not become infected.

 

Given HIV doesn't cause any signs in the early stages, I can say from my own experience that using condoms probably prevented me getting HIV or any other STD. Like a seat belt, I used one every time I "drove".

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I don't remember the exact statistics, but for a man getting AIDS from sex with a woman in very low.

If a guy has sex with let's say 1000 women, and 10% of them have AIDS, the statistic not to get AIDS is still in his favor.

 

IMO the main thing when having intercourse with an unknown woman, make sure she is "lubricated" before insertion. Rough sex without her getting wet might mean she bleeds a bit internally, where one's little head is lurking.

I trusted in KY every time.

1 hour ago, JimTripper said:

do you beat your bishop?

that's a great gig, you make 1000 baht each time.

Looking back, if I'd stayed faithful to Mrs Palmer in my lifetime I'd be quite wealthy now.

It was fun while it lasted though.

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Yes, and do you remember that it was a crisis in Africa? And what was the explanation given? That Africans are a bunch of savages who screw 15 times a day without condoms? But could the compromised immunity in Ethiopia have anything to do with malnutrition instead maybe? 

 

One more link and then I'm outta here. I won't waste any more time debating this. 

 

https://medium.com/the-monthly/the-foo-fighters-aids-denialism-should-be-on-the-record-6e33666fdc3c

argued HIV did not cause AIDS — and that HIV was, in fact, harmless and non-contagious. Alive and Well argued that AIDS was likely caused by recreational drug use and/or the very antiretroviral drugs used to treat HIV patients

I've also read similar articles, but that doesn't explain how African women's babies got AIDS ( HIV transmitted from the mothers ) when they likely didn't use recreational drugs or antiretroviral drugs.

7 hours ago, JackGats said:

Multiresistant Ghonorrhea scares me, not AIDS. You can live with AIDS.

It was herpes for me. Fear of, not actually got it.

8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Please describe in detail what makes a woman's vagina different after multiple partners.

He's talking out of his ****. A female vagina is designed to accommodate a baby's head and retract to more or less the size it was before. While a baby would certainly make a difference, IMO, unless bonking John Holmes the second, a woman should have zero stretching problems if never squeezed a brat out.

For those that never looked, a vagina is a virtual space and not an actual cavity.

7 hours ago, Lacessit said:

KY is more to assist women who have passed menopause. If you need it for younger women, they are either frigid, or your own skills could use improvement.

Even a young woman will not self lubricate just because Mr Horney turns up. She normally needs some stimulant of an emotional or mechanical nature to get wet, and given many guys either have no idea of how to do foreplay or don't care enough to wait, a little KY is a good precaution.

8 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

That's for guys who fantasize about  having sex with menstruating girls. 

LOL.

I read somewhere that some motorbike gangsters like to prove how tough they are by doing oral on a menstruating woman. Not something I'd do myself though.

13 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Yeah I hear anecdotally that many older farang don't use condoms or use PrEP, they won't admit it on here though, they also don't get tested.

 

I use PrEP plus recently started doxy PEP, get testing every 4 months when I pick up the PrEP.

 

HIV is more difficult to catch than people think but still I wouldn't take their risk 

If a BG had offered to do it without a condom I'd have refused to go with her. If she'd do that with me she do it with anyone.

41 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

Given HIV doesn't cause any signs in the early stages.

 

Internet tells one can go 10+ years being HIV+ and not show any signs.

 

11 hours ago, Sigma6 said:

Whilst the stats make it seem highly unlikely, what matters the most - and you could never know - is how high the viral load is at time of 'meeting'
 

If the person was recently infected / untreated they could have a viral load in millions of copies per ml.  This person would be highly infectious - couple that with non-circumcised (mucous mebranes can absorb), or cut in the mouth or elsewhere - you will probably be infected.

Someone who's on treatment with an undetectable viral load - very low (basically zero) chance of transmission.

 

Roll the dice....

I don't like to gamble, so I always used one, and checked it every time after to make sure it hadn't torn in use. I cut down the risk of a tear by using KY.

 

Had to laugh to myself at work one day when a female colleague accused me of not knowing how to put one on. She was a silly girl.

Not that I was trying to use one with her, as I'd have cut it off with a rusty razor blade before I'd stick it in her. Not a nice person.

The staff used to have some interesting conversations while on night shift breaks, when less people were around. She liked to boast how her BF could do her multiple times a day.

Did any of you read The Virgin Soldiers? There was an interesting description of how they were required to protect themselves and they didn't even have AIDS back then. Rather more than just sticking a rubber on.

8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

It may be old-fashioned of me, but i think the sex is always better if the female enjoys herself too.

i still remember a girl I used to date when we were both in our twenties. She said she would start getting wet as soon as she heard my car pulling up at her parents' house.

Friend of mine used to do the dishes as foreplay

9 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

I wonder what motivates you guys to go bareback. For me it was that after 65 my stud days were over, and now I just like to cuddle a couple of hours, and get one or two pops in the  flow of the action.. What's great in Bangkok it is easy to find the girls willing, and  PREP from my friends at Pulse.

How much is PrEP from pulse? and testing?

7 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

the non-venue based sex workers (e.g. street walkers, like you said) are far riskier.

Maybe not, there is a myth out there that they get tested regularly if in a venue, it's not the norm, in some maybe but certainly not all

9 hours ago, JackGats said:

Multiresistant Ghonorrhea scares me, not AIDS. You can live with AIDS.

you know anyone with multiresistant gonorrhea?

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given that HIV is transmitted by fluids, a condom is the protection of choice. I was once asked by some farangs if I thought oral on a BG was OK, so I thought about it and said that as long as one didn't have bleeding in one's mouth it would be OK. I have read that HIV is not likely to be transmitted orally, as the mouth is not friendly to the virus.

I've read about a man that was married to an HIV positive woman and did not become infected.

 

Given HIV doesn't cause any signs in the early stages, I can say from my own experience that using condoms probably prevented me getting HIV or any other STD. Like a seat belt, I used one every time I "drove".

How often do guys drop the condom when drunk? quite often apparently, that's one reason PrEP is more effective than condoms

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If a BG had offered to do it without a condom I'd have refused to go with her. If she'd do that with me she do it with anyone.

many older falang seek them out, no condom

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I've also read similar articles, but that doesn't explain how African women's babies got AIDS ( HIV transmitted from the mothers ) when they likely didn't use recreational drugs or antiretroviral drugs.

 

I haven't looked at this stuff in many many years, so I'm not in a position to debate it much. 

I did a quick search for you though and found this. 

 

At the beginning of the video, he ask why there are so few, if any, cases of AIDS among wealthy people. 

And he goes on to explain the connection between poverty in Africa and AIDS. 

Enjoy. 

 

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

How often do guys drop the condom when drunk? quite often apparently, that's one reason PrEP is more effective than condoms

I never got drunk before doing it. I don't know why one would, given it makes it far less likely to be enjoyable or remember it.

Sometimes I have to wonder if most posters are alcoholics, as they seem to require a skinful to function.

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