British citizen stranded in Thai hospital with a 400,000 baht plea to escape

[Liverpool Lou]

35 minutes ago, shackleton said:

A bit over the top news sensation considering his fault for not having insurance

Well, The Mirror does have to cover their payment to him for his story by selling extra copies!

[quake]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

No Paper... Lol.

Went to my local park for some exercise as usual.

There is a toilet block for the people at the park,

I needed to take a dump so went in for the first time to use the facilities.

Four traps each side, four for male four for females..

Open door to trap one, the floor level squat affair... pass.

Trap two, same... pass.

Trap three, door locked out of order.

Trap four, euro style toilet [non-flush], okay, sit down do the business, look around, no paper, just a tank full of water and a bowl.

Hands now wet, ar$e dripping with water... nothing to dry anything on !!!!!

 

Thailand 2023...

 

So what did you do. dry off and then.

Go Commando. 

[Ralf001]

47 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I don't know, doubt that he does either, all the article reports his mate saying about that is "There has been blood on the cover since he got there".  Sort of suggests a stained bed cover, not that he has uncontrolled "leaking" blood.

 

Yeah I call BS on the blood already being there.

[NextG]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Well, The Mirror does have to cover their payment to him for his story by selling extra copies!

Pay to whom? He probably welcomed the story. More publicity; more money. 

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, jaideedave said:

A few years ago I had quarterly Dr appointments at BPH heart center.

When done with the Dr a nurse would accompany me to the cashiers window on the next floor and didn't leave until my payment was completed.

It got to the point where I almost said something like "whats up don't you trust me?" and then I realized that they don't! 

It pissed me off because my insurance company at the time paid out well over 1 mil previously for bypass surgery.

After checking the thick invoice I noticed the bill was well and truly padded.pricks

 

I visit a private hospital bi-monthly.

 

After docs/specialists visited... I make my own way to the cashier... I could walk out the front door if I wanted, but insurance covers OPD so I just wonder over to cashier and sign.... then collect my meds.

[brianthainess]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

There’s no toilet roll, you just wash with a hose.”

 

This is a public hospital pal, and from my experience the staff and cleanness, have been Ok, If he is worried about some of his blood on the bed, then his mate should find the clean ones, and change it, for him. Yes people die in hospital right next to you that's life. By the way I haven't 'wiped' my ass for near on 20yrs. 😱

[Liverpool Lou]

18 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

30 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where was it reported that he was anywhere near dying?

It was said he is involved in a desperate battle for survival.

It also said that his mate (no doctor said that?) "thought it may be leukemia"  or "maybe he was just anaemic", or words to that effect!

[OneMoreFarang]

13 hours ago, ukrules said:

Is Leukemia something that comes on out of nowhere?

 

I know someone who was diagnosed with Leukemia and prognosis to live maybe one year longer. She had no idea about this condition. The diagnosis happened at an unrelated event, not because of any complaints. And this was in a so called first world country.

[neeray]

13 hours ago, quake said:

 

But the best bit was this.

 

 

Got to laugh at that comment !!!!!!!!!!!. 

 

 

Welcome to the ways of Thailand. When in Rome .............

[brianthainess]

If he and his mate aint careful the hospital could sue him for defamation.

[Ricky HKT]

I have used the services (heart stress test, blood testing) at Vachira Hospital. Excellent service and great staff.

 

My wife had an operation there (removed a salivary gland). Excellent Doctor, surgery, results. Good and fast services.

 

I personally know some of the nurses and staff. Kind and hardworking people.

 

The facilities may look a bit dated, but it is a government facility which serves the Phuket province, other provinces, and foreigners. 

 

Sorry, but this like a hit job on the hospital. For what purpose?

 

[smedly]

14 hours ago, bignok said:

Idiot.

get on a flight and go home, I wonder about these people who are deemed not fit for air travel, 

[Ralf001]

2 minutes ago, Ricky HKT said:

 

 

Sorry, but this like a hit job on the hospital. For what purpose?

 

 

To stooge the sheeples of their hard earned so that this bludger gets a free holiday.

[Liverpool Lou]

16 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I don't know, doubt that he does either, all the article reports his mate saying about that is "There has been blood on the cover since he got there".  Sort of suggests a stained bed cover, not that he has uncontrolled "leaking" blood.

 

Yeah I call BS on the blood already being there.

"Call" whatever you like about whatever you like but, then, aren't you the one who used the bizarre phrase "blood leaking from his body"?!   If the bed really was blood-soaked don't you think that The Mirror would have shown a photo of it to back their bullshlt story?

Edited December 1, 2023 by Liverpool Lou

[Jimbo 12345]

Him , his mates, his family,  cant raise 10k  ?  Absolutely ridiculous,  pay your bill,  fly home,  don't come back,  no sympathy whatsoever,  

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Call" whatever you like about whatever you like but aren't you the one who used the phrase "leaking blood"?!   If there really was blood all over the bed don't you think that The Mirror would have shown a photo of it to back their (bull<deleted>) story?

 

Need a tissue there champ ?

[brianthainess]

I hope he and his baby do well WHAT! his not pregnant, looks like he is to me.

[steven100]

Does anyone know where I can donate a roll of toilet paper.  

[Ebumbu]

13 hours ago, bob smith said:

It does happen. It happened to my sister. 

 

It happened to my friend in Vietnam during the Covid lockdown. They sealed him into his house and provided no food, according to him. He finally got back to Germany where he was diagnosed with leukemia. Then he suffered a stroke. He didn't make it. Wonderful, kind, happy guy. Life screwed him over. I don't know about his insurance in Vietnam, but they were welding doors closed, according to him. 

[jerrymahoney]

The bill was said to be 10,000 pounds and the GoFundMe raised 10,000 pounds -- fund started by his friend who is with him there in Phuket.

[Old Croc]

Firstly, a few years ago the government retrospectively added a criterion for extensions to the O-A visas to include bogus health insurance payable only to a select few Thai insurance companies. This stemmed from complaints from Vachira hospital that foreigners had departed leaving a few million baht in unpaid bills. The govt was unwilling to seek compensation from short term visitors so unfairly placed the burden on a small proportion of non-immi long stay residents. Does any of this money flow back to the hospital?

Secondly, it's reported this man has a low platelet count, an immune system problem that results in a thinning of the blood. As the treatment requires many transfusions it would not be at all unusual for this thin blood to soil the sheets. I have a medical condition that requires me to undergo regular bloodletting. Occasionally, during the process, blood gets on the sheets even in top level facilities. This huge, very busy, public hospital wouldn't be able to constantly change bed linen. If you want 5-star treatment, go to the excellent private hospital a short distance down the road. If the sight of poor Thai people dying in your crowded ward offends, at least pay for a private room. 

Thirdly, if your lifestyle choices (see pic of huge beer gut) result in medical problems which you probably ignore, but instead go on a hedonistic holiday without travel insurance, blame yourself, not that country's health system.

If you want dunny paper, buy some, poor Thais generally don't use it. Any of the staff or other patients' family visitors, would be happy to assist for a couple of baht. Don't turn such an idiotic thing into an international whinge or form part of your fund raiser! 

[phetpeter]

Sure the hospital is busy, drunks in various situations, etc. But looking at the photos and reading the story, I can't work out the timeline. But in the photos, he seems to be in A&E section and has no IV or needle drip points. As to having more blood infusions than the body holds. with no photos of him in ICU. An Essex lad who thinks he can drink the world dry, eat anything, Drink water from the tap in Thailand. And the fact he states he will go to A&E when he returns home? As to the bill I really believe that is way over the top, and unlikely that the hospital which is a government place. It only cost me 2600 pounds for in hospital treatment plus a stent when I had a heart attack, and that included two bags of blood.

[brianthainess]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

No Paper... Lol.

Went to my local park for some exercise as usual.

There is a toilet block for the people at the park,

I needed to take a dump so went in for the first time to use the facilities.

Four traps each side, four for male four for females..

Open door to trap one, the floor level squat affair... pass.

Trap two, same... pass.

Trap three, door locked out of order.

Trap four, euro style toilet [non-flush], okay, sit down do the business, look around, no paper, just a tank full of water and a bowl.

Hands now wet, ar$e dripping with water... nothing to dry anything on !!!!!

 

Thailand 2023...

Why do you need paper? Oh dear your hands were wet in this heat your ass and trousers will be dry in minuets. What annoys me is many places now Don't have a bum gun, just paper, but as the toilets are cleaned so often, after flushing a couple of times I scoop up the water from the bowl to clean myself.

[UWEB]

Another one, GofoundMe must be full of such cases.

[NextG]

1 minute ago, UWEB said:

Another one, GofoundMe must be full of such cases.

Have you considered that media outlets actively search through the ‘giving’ websites for stories?

[hotchilli]

52 minutes ago, quake said:

 

So what did you do. dry off and then.

Go Commando. 

Drip dry, wash hands went home disgusted with the amenities.

[herfiehandbag]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

“It feels like the third world. There’s blood all over Dean’s bed. There has been blood on the cover since he got there. There’s no toilet roll, you just wash with a hose.”

 

Shockingly, Penson’s roommates are succumbing to their illnesses just feet away, with no privacy or dignity in their final moments.

That is bull<deleted>.

 

Thai government hospitals are clean. Comforts are basic, but wounds are not left undressed and blood certainly not allowed to pool on the floor.

 

I was in one (Chiang Rai Prachanukroh Hospital) for several weeks a couple of years ago. The surgery and medical care was excellent, it was clean, comfort was basic, the food was awful!

 

A couple of people on my ward died whilst I was there. They were screened off, and nurses were with them. There families stayed with them. They were given privacy and treated with dignity.

 

I was allowed a visit from a priest to hear my confession and give me "extreme unction", ( It was a bit touch and go for the first few days); I was given privacy and afforded as much dignity as possible - a nurse assistant even gave me a wash and shave before he came.

 

No one even mentioned money until the day before my discharge. Then a lady from the finance office came and arranged a payment plan. The cost, bearing in mind I had two bouts of surgery, was not excessive. Not even 10% of what this report is talking about.

Edited December 1, 2023 by herfiehandbag

[Wullie Mercer]

400.000 Baht will not evencover the basic treatment for Leukemia, went through and now in remission( for last 12 years) total cost was 13.5 million baht and took almost 1 year. Ship him back to UK.

[Gandtee]

13 hours ago, bob smith said:

Just walk out the hospital when you feel better and fly home to get proper treatment. Tell em to stick the 400K!
 

legally he doesn’t have to pay a penny. 
 

despite what anyone says, it is a hospitals duty to accept any and all emergency cases without question. Im not saying to walk out without paying is morally right, thats another story, but legally he doesn’t have to pay a cent. 

Walk out without his passport? It's d*******s like him that make it bad for expats in Thailand. This are the sort of tosh that the British tabloids love to feed the reading sheep. And the sheep believe it and bleat.

[damo1967]

2 hours ago, Ironmike said:

To be very honest I've lived here in Phuket for 18 years now I've been to Vicara twice and found the staff and treatment very good, and yes there was toilet paper and a hose there, I find this story a load of BS because you do not get Lukemia over night and maybe the real. Reason he didn't get insurance was because of this factor so his plan to come here te Thailand for free medical back fired on his stupid ass, so call your family and pay your bill you low life scumbag why should other donate anything to you. 

People like this ruin genuine 'gofundme' requests for others in serious need of it..  this twit made his own bed.. let hi lay in it.  Selfish, stupid man.... hope karma catches up with him real soon... PS. IS this story even real?  Or have the pictures been doctored etc?  Anyway, he is a stupid English scumbag.. that deserves to me made to stay where he is.