British citizen stranded in Thai hospital with a 400,000 baht plea to escape

[Blumpie]

I wouldn't give this bum the time of day.  Plenty of poor in Thailand that need to be taken care of

[Liverpool Lou]

13 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

On 11/30/2023 at 8:23 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

There has to be a first time that a condition is discovered so, yes, it could be said that it came out of nowhere if there weren't any symptoms previously but the article doesn't say that leukemia has been diagnosed, his mate just said it could be that and that he is very anaemic.

And why would that cause his blood to be all over the sheets? 

I don't know, I didn't say that his blood was all over the sheets, why are you asking me.  By the way the photos that The Mirror produced did not show blood-soaked sheets, if there were any, they'd have been shown.

[Fr87]

Would travel insurance even cover this? This is not an accident or something like emergency appendectomy.

 

How can you feel perfectly normal, go on holiday only to be laid low and bed ridden days later? 

[Neeranam]

What a fool, he should have gone to a public hospital. 

[Ralf001]

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

What a fool, he should have gone to a public hospital. 

Vachira Phuket Hospital is a public hospital.

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Vachira Phuket Hospital is a public hospital.

Oh, well he's lying about something

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Oh, well he's lying about something

 

I think him and his mates are lying about everything (like the majority of these bludgers seeking donations)  and this whole thing is just a means to stooge a free holiday.

Edited December 5, 2023 by Ralf001

[Neeranam]

On 11/30/2023 at 7:56 PM, bob smith said:

The fact is, any and all emergency cases admitted to almost any hospital worldwide are the responsibility of that hospital until discharged by a doctor. 
 

The alternative would be to have hordes of sick people dying in hospital foyers because they didn’t have the money for the emergency treatment that could have saved their lives. This is a predicament that hospitals actively try to avoid.

And I've heard foreigners complain about having to get travel insurance for a visa. 

[Rampant Rabbit]

Grow a pair of wazza  jugs, get your lips  puffed  out by letting wasps sting them, remove eybrows and felt  tip pen some new ones on  and voila...Instant money in the bank guaranteed, worked for that other old  dog a few  weeks  back from Sweden even though she was whoring herself off on Fans  Only previously.

[sabaiguy]

On 11/30/2023 at 4:46 AM, ukrules said:

Is Leukemia something that comes on out of nowhere?

 

Most travel policies will cover emergency treatment, they're not an alternative to health insurance

Exactly.  Leukemia is a cancer, probably pre existing not an emergency.

[CDG931]

 

What about the "tourist fee" of 150-300 baht for all foreign tourists approved by the Cabinet in Feb. 2023?

..."part of the sum will be used to provide health and accident insurance coverage for tourists during their stay in the country."

 

Was this postponed? Or is this another money-grabbing scheme?

[ukrules]

22 minutes ago, CDG931 said:

Was this postponed? Or is this another money-grabbing scheme?

Both!

[jak2002003]

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I don't know, I didn't say that his blood was all over the sheets, why are you asking me.  By the way the photos that The Mirror produced did not show blood-soaked sheets, if there were any, they'd have been shown.

Sorry I did not mean to question you. 

 

I was trying to just comment on the main op

 

I just feel confident that thar cancer does no suddenly happen and land a person in a hospital bed with no prior symptoms, making they body ooze blood on the beds.

 

Also I can't belive the nurses in any Thai hospital would leave a patient in a blood soaked bed for any length of time. 

 

As for the 'no toilet rolls', that just pathetic. 

 

The guy saying it was like a 3rd wold country..... Well news to him it is

. And he chose to holiday here. 

 

BTW... I would have more confidence on a scruffy government thai hospital than some of the NHS hospitals outside London in the UK. 

 

 

[KanchanaburiGuy]

4 hours ago, Fr87 said:

Would travel insurance even cover this? This is not an accident or something like emergency appendectomy.

 

How can you feel perfectly normal, go on holiday only to be laid low and bed ridden days later? 

.

I dunno, start with........

 

In 25% of the cases where people die from heart disease....... the very first indication that they HAVE heart disease........ is DEATH.

 

Or, to put it another way.......

 

25% of the people who die of heart disease....... didn't even know they had a problem! They just....... died!

 

* An Appendix can burst.

 

* An intestine can rupture or get twisted.

 

* An aneurysm can rupture.

 

* An kidney, bladder, liver can get infected.

 

* A flu doesn't call you two weeks ahead of time to tell you it's coming!

 

* You might be travelling in a country with dengue fever or malaria....... and lots of mosquitoes!

 

* The challenge to allergies is....... you don't know you're allergic to something until you are EXPOSED to it! Travelling exposes you to lots of new things; especially international travel.

 

It also sometimes depends on how much you are exposed to the allergen: A lot of times, your immune system is able fight off the allergy until, then, suddenly---WHAM!---you can't any more! You've been allergic all along, but there had been no signs or symptoms to your allergy. Now there are!

 

* People can have leukaemia and KNOW they have leukaemia.......... but have been in remission for a while---perhaps for a long time---and not know it's gonna kick'em in the arse again, tomorrow.

 

That's life!

 

**************

 

Buying insurance........ or NOT buying insurance......... is a form of gambling. In a way, it's a lot like playing baccarat:

 

You can bet that the house will win...... or....... you can bet that the player will win!

 

When you buy insurance, you're betting that you ARE going to get seriously ill or have some kind of serious accident. You "gamble" a smaller amount up front....... to protect yourself from the catastrophic expenses you anticipate are going to happen!

 

When you choose to NOT buy insurance, you are gambling that that sort of serious thing WON'T happen.

 

If nothing serious happens, "the house" wins.

 

If something serious happens, "the player" wins!

 

Buying insurance is really just baccarat writ large! 😂

 

****************

 

So, to answer your question.......

 

"How can you feel perfectly normal, go on holiday only to be laid low and bed ridden days later?"

 

The answer is........ Cuz That's How Life Works, Baby!

 

Fate doesn't phone ahead and tell you when accidents are going to happen or when diseases are going to strike! They just.........DO!

 

Life is riddled with uncertainties!

 

And it's all those uncertainties that make it possible for us to have this big ol' Casino Game called.... INSURANCE!

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2023 by KanchanaburiGuy

[KanchanaburiGuy]

36 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Sorry I did not mean to question you. 

 

I was trying to just comment on the main op

 

I just feel confident that thar cancer does no suddenly happen and land a person in a hospital bed with no prior symptoms, making they body ooze blood on the beds.

 

Also I can't belive the nurses in any Thai hospital would leave a patient in a blood soaked bed for any length of time. 

 

As for the 'no toilet rolls', that just pathetic. 

 

The guy saying it was like a 3rd wold country..... Well news to him it is

. And he chose to holiday here. 

 

BTW... I would have more confidence on a scruffy government thai hospital than some of the NHS hospitals outside London in the UK. 

 

 

.

I assume you've seen the photos. The man is obviously both morbidly obese and unfit. He might have had symptoms but misunderstood them.

 

He might have thought such symptoms as fatigue, weakness, and shortage of breath were all because he's fat and unfit........ and........ because he's walking around a country that is 15°C hotter than he's used to!

 

Even if we discount the heat factor and consider what he might have been experiencing at home, before he left........ doesn't it make sense that he'd believe it was because he's fat and unfit....... and NOT because he believed he has leukaemia or some other form of cancer? Hmm?

 

if you KNOW you've got cancer, that's one thing. But if he DIDN'T know....

 

I'd guess he's got about 10-stone worth of reasons to think that something else was going on! 😂

 

So yeah, he mightve been having symptoms, already. But he mightve also had a belly-full of reason to misunderstand them! *wink*

 

 

Edited December 5, 2023 by KanchanaburiGuy

[kwilco]

don't suppose the guy has Dengue by any chance?

[drkenchao]

thai govt should require every
tourists to buy health insurance
or contribute to a broad fund
set up by the govt for this
purpose. There are always
news that Thai public health
system spent too much on
foreigners or default withouT
settling the bill after treatment. which led to
immigration required OA retirees to buy
mandatory health insurance, however, the particular case in nov 2023
of a british man suffered from leukemia and unable to settle Thai hospital bill of about 10000 british pound sterling (reported in bangkokpost and thaiger)shows that mandatory
insurance for retirees simplily could not help
govt to reduce public health expense, but the
retirees suffer due to extremely high
insurance fee (comes with old age) and the
exclusion on pre conditions and all illness
that may arise from pre conditions, but are
retirees more susceptible to the latter illness
than other new medical problems, for
example, if common healtH priblems such as
diabetes, high blood pressure, and chlestrol
are all excluded from protection, maybe the
health insurance only useful for some cancers
such as lung cancer or PSA problem?

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, drkenchao said:

thai govt should require every
tourists to buy health insurance
or contribute to a broad fund
set up by the govt for this
purpose. There are always
news that Thai public health
system spent too much on
foreigners or default withouT
settling the bill after treatment. which led to
immigration required OA retirees to buy
mandatory health insurance, however, the particular case in nov 2023
of a british man suffered from leukemia and unable to settle Thai hospital bill of about 10000 british pound sterling (reported in bangkokpost and thaiger)shows that mandatory
insurance for retirees simplily could not help
govt to reduce public health expense, but the
retirees suffer due to extremely high
insurance fee (comes with old age) and the
exclusion on pre conditions and all illness
that may arise from pre conditions, but are
retirees more susceptible to the latter illness
than other new medical problems, for
example, if common healtH priblems such as
diabetes, high blood pressure, and chlestrol
are all excluded from protection, maybe the
health insurance only useful for some cancers
such as lung cancer or PSA problem?

 

Are those song lyrics ????

 

 

 

.... but you're a day late and a dollar short to that thread....  50 days late actually.. 

 

 

[KKr]

On 11/30/2023 at 6:47 PM, Celsius said:

 

But it seems like GoFundMe works better because he already raised all the money and then some.

"good" idea ...
would "save" me some 6.000 $ per annum, but prices of health insurance is another discussion.

[mommysboy]

No money. No insurance. Not sure he'll be able to travel back either without special considerations which will cost.

 

 

[saintdomingo]

According to The Sun he died in hospital in the UK on the 25th of January. 

A blood condition which meant platelets and bone marrow could not be produced. 

Google his name, Dean Penson, for the story. 

[retarius]

7 hours ago, saintdomingo said:

According to The Sun he died in hospital in the UK on the 25th of January. 

A blood condition which meant platelets and bone marrow could not be produced. 

Google his name, Dean Penson, for the story. 

I looked up the story.....RIP Dean. 

[Mike Lister]

T

On 12/5/2023 at 1:34 AM, Ralf001 said:

 

Claims he did not buy because of a pre-existing knee injury.... sound like a BS excuse to not buy IMHO.

 

On 12/5/2023 at 12:26 PM, Fr87 said:

Would travel insurance even cover this? This is not an accident or something like emergency appendectomy.

 

How can you feel perfectly normal, go on holiday only to be laid low and bed ridden days later? 

 

On 12/5/2023 at 1:00 PM, Neeranam said:

Oh, well he's lying about something

 

On 12/5/2023 at 4:18 PM, KanchanaburiGuy said:

.

I dunno, start with........

 

In 25% of the cases where people die from heart disease....... the very first indication that they HAVE heart disease........ is DEATH.

 

Or, to put it another way.......

 

25% of the people who die of heart disease....... didn't even know they had a problem! They just....... died!

 

* An Appendix can burst.

 

* An intestine can rupture or get twisted.

 

* An aneurysm can rupture.

 

* An kidney, bladder, liver can get infected.

 

* A flu doesn't call you two weeks ahead of time to tell you it's coming!

 

* You might be travelling in a country with dengue fever or malaria....... and lots of mosquitoes!

 

* The challenge to allergies is....... you don't know you're allergic to something until you are EXPOSED to it! Travelling exposes you to lots of new things; especially international travel.

 

It also sometimes depends on how much you are exposed to the allergen: A lot of times, your immune system is able fight off the allergy until, then, suddenly---WHAM!---you can't any more! You've been allergic all along, but there had been no signs or symptoms to your allergy. Now there are!

 

* People can have leukaemia and KNOW they have leukaemia.......... but have been in remission for a while---perhaps for a long time---and not know it's gonna kick'em in the arse again, tomorrow.

 

That's life!

 

**************

 

Buying insurance........ or NOT buying insurance......... is a form of gambling. In a way, it's a lot like playing baccarat:

 

You can bet that the house will win...... or....... you can bet that the player will win!

 

When you buy insurance, you're betting that you ARE going to get seriously ill or have some kind of serious accident. You "gamble" a smaller amount up front....... to protect yourself from the catastrophic expenses you anticipate are going to happen!

 

When you choose to NOT buy insurance, you are gambling that that sort of serious thing WON'T happen.

 

If nothing serious happens, "the house" wins.

 

If something serious happens, "the player" wins!

 

Buying insurance is really just baccarat writ large! 😂

 

****************

 

So, to answer your question.......

 

"How can you feel perfectly normal, go on holiday only to be laid low and bed ridden days later?"

 

The answer is........ Cuz That's How Life Works, Baby!

 

Fate doesn't phone ahead and tell you when accidents are going to happen or when diseases are going to strike! They just.........DO!

 

Life is riddled with uncertainties!

 

And it's all those uncertainties that make it possible for us to have this big ol' Casino Game called.... INSURANCE!

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Turns out he had leukaemia, whether or not he knew it I don't know. Presumably he did and that was why he couldn't get travel insurance.

[saintdomingo]

Very well said Mike Lister, I will continue to follow your career on here with interest. 

[Poseidon]

"The British citizen’s dire situation is compounded by the absence of travel insurance" Not interested. Go abroad get insurance it's not expensive either 

[kwilco]

10 minutes ago, Poseidon said:

"The British citizen’s dire situation is compounded by the absence of travel insurance" Not interested. Go abroad get insurance it's not expensive either 

THat works fine until it's you....

[Nick Carter icp]

On 11/30/2023 at 12:02 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

I hope he goes back to his home and stays there. And then he should tell all the people he knows how wonderful home is, includind decent hospitals and all that.

Nobody will miss him, and crybabies like him. 

 

 

 

 

   He died . 

[CG1 Blue]

RIP Dean. He's from my home town(ish), Southend on Sea. 

By all accounts he was a really nice fella. 

 

Sadly from my experience with the NHS, I'd say he might have had a better chance of survival if he'd stayed in Thailand. The negligence in UK NHS hospitals is off the scale these days. 

 

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/24066030.southend-man-fell-ill-thailand-dies-aged-41/

[zhounan]

10.000 pounds shouldn't be a big burden for a British.

[The Fugitive]

15 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

RIP Dean. He's from my home town(ish), Southend on Sea. 

By all accounts he was a really nice fella. 

 

Sadly from my experience with the NHS, I'd say he might have had a better chance of survival if he'd stayed in Thailand. The negligence in UK NHS hospitals is off the scale these days. 

 

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/24066030.southend-man-fell-ill-thailand-dies-aged-41/

100% correct on UK NHS. When my Mum was dying of cancer I had to call a 'GoToDoc' (out of hours mobile GP). He told me; 'Don't put your Mum in ..... hospital. They killed my grandmother'. Unfortunately, I had no choice. I saw nurses doing things then hearing them being told; 'Try reading the patient's notes'. The standard answer was; 'I've only just arrived upon this ward, haven't got time'.