Liverpool Lou Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, PETERTHEEATER said: An English language report from another source says the ferry was hit by a high sea state including 3 metre high waves which flooded the lower deck causing engine failure. Also, that navy divers would inspect the vessel. Yes, the Bangkok Post reported that, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, scorecard said: Did it "sink to the bottom"? I didn't see that in the media reports. Or just wild assumption? As per the PBS article linked to in the OP: Quote No passengers were injured, but the becalmed vessel ultimately sank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 The video clip shown on thai TV last night show just ht a shamble this accident was. Crew jumping in the wate without any life jakets; passsenger in the wate instead of being trnsferred frm life raft to rescue ship.... Did anyone at the scene have any training in marine safety or rescue? it looked as if a buch of monkey could have done better. Dare anyobne inspect the other itner island ferries? Would there be any point? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, 2baht said: Your experience and knowledge is most impressive! 🙏 Yeah, I'm well known for that. Good for you to follow my posts!🥳 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 18 hours ago, 300sd said: So the well serviced vessel had a leak and since the engine stopped working the pump didn't work either. Thank god everyone was saved. I pass on boat trips around here. Nowhere that I can find, does it say that the vessel had a leak. Where did you glean that little gem from? That boat sits low in the water. With waves of up to 3 - 4 meters, they will break over the deck and enter the vessel. One report says that this then caused the water pumps to stop working. Apart from those two little errors, your comment is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquerbrqvilok Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Thailand is poor in safety and infrastructure, needs improvements in order to attract tourists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2baht Posted December 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, newbee2022 said: Yeah, I'm well known for that. Good for you to follow my posts!🥳 You hang in there newbee, we can learn from you! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 hours ago, Pique Dard said: ---merry X-mas & happy new year to all the survivors! Good one, and I think they will enjoy it double !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 hours ago, wimpy said: You would think the Marine Police or Coast Guard would inspect these vessels, wouldn't you? Of course, but this is how inspections are carried out !!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyB Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 11 hours ago, 2baht said: Is this the much taunted tourist safety we read so much about? Well they did get saved ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyB Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 hours ago, wimpy said: You would think the Marine Police or Coast Guard would inspect these vessels, wouldn't you? You would, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyB Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 4 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said: In the linked report: However the night boat later sank after splitting into two in the middle with Koh Tao police investigating how this occurred. At least the skipper had the nous to get his SOS off in time. Imagine if everyone had still been on board ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyB Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, off road pat said: Of course, but this is how inspections are carried out !!! And this 'ship' was owned by Lomprayah, the catamaran company. You'd expect something better from them wouldn't you? At least I did, but now I'm rethinking a trip with their boats to Samui in February. Let's see what emerges from the 'investigation'. Edited December 23, 2023 by BusyB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyB Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, off road pat said: Good one, and I think they will enjoy it double !!! Those that aren't traumatized anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, 2baht said: Is this the much taunted tourist safety we read so much about? I saw that boat when I was in Ko Phagnan. It's the overnight cargo slow boat from Surat. Those aren't "tourists" so much as it's young people looking for adventure or just cheapskates trying to save the price of a room and fly to a cheaper airport than Koh Samui. 😋 Edited December 23, 2023 by SiSePuede419 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, BusyB said: Well they did get saved ... When things are safe, accidents don't happen, rescues are not necessary. Maybe your concept of safety is different to mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accidental Tourist Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Quite a lot of boat accident's in Thailand, is it not...maybe something to do with control of safety regulations and brown envelopes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: Nowhere that I can find, does it say that the vessel had a leak. Where did you glean that little gem from? That boat sits low in the water. With waves of up to 3 - 4 meters, they will break over the deck and enter the vessel. One report says that this then caused the water pumps to stop working. Apart from those two little errors, your comment is accurate. "after the engine of the boat failed mid-voyage and water began to flow into the vessel". This says to me that there is a leak. Perhaps not from the bottom but a leak all the same. Water going into a ship is a leak. That thing they are calling a boat should only be in a small lake. Just look at those beautiful lines. It's definitely not for open water even in the Gulf of Thailand. Nevermind passengers! Most vessels will ride out a storm without an engine. It's called drifting. Wonder why that engine stopped? The passengers are very lucky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowellandrew Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 The captain told the Chinese passengers he was trying out for the navy and the engine less submarine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamloki Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 13 hours ago, neeray said: Perhaps the boat owners had never heard the idiom, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". (maintenance be damned, full speed ahead). It's not that they haven't heard it... they don't know what ounces and pounds are... grams and kilos maybe... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bobthegimp Posted December 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2023 As someone who was responsible for passenger safety and evacuations on a 400 passenger ferry, I'm impressed with what I see. The life raft appears to be a 150 passenger raft (they can hold 10 percent more) properly deployed, passengers are at the muster point with life jackets donned correctly and it appears to have been done in an orderly fashion. It's not surprising to see the deck hands (usually Cambodians) not wearing work vests because they would view them as an encumbrance. If the engine room was flooded it could have shorted out the bilge pump or knocked out the generator. We did drills every week that depicted a problem that lead to an evacuation of the boat. Some people can't keep their head straight, even on a drill. Imagine how it would be in open water on a boat like the one that sank. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Note to myself, only take morning or early afternoon ferries. It's much easier to be found when the sun is still up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyB Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, 2baht said: When things are safe, accidents don't happen, rescues are not necessary. Maybe your concept of safety is different to mine! Whoooosh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 At least it wasn't a Duck they always sink within sight of shore with a loss of at least 10 people drown, they ply the lake of the mid-west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 19 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: In this thread on which you're posting! i read the 1st linked article which didn't mention it, but the second one did. i cant help but wonder how factual that is, Bangkok post, Thai PBS, the Nation or any others don't mention it splitting in half, i cant say i've heard of 'thai newsroom' before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 16 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said: I saw that boat when I was in Ko Phagnan. It's the overnight cargo slow boat from Surat. Those aren't "tourists" so much as it's young people looking for adventure or just cheapskates trying to save the price of a room and fly to a cheaper airport than Koh Samui. 😋 so nobody should take any other route than fly to samui? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 17 hours ago, BusyB said: And this 'ship' was owned by Lomprayah, the catamaran company. You'd expect something better from them wouldn't you? At least I did, but now I'm rethinking a trip with their boats to Samui in February. Let's see what emerges from the 'investigation'. its nothing to do with the Lomprayah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 59 minutes ago, frank83628 said: i read the 1st linked article which didn't mention it, but the second one did. i cant help but wonder how factual that is, Bangkok post, Thai PBS, the Nation or any others don't mention it splitting in half, i cant say i've heard of 'thai newsroom' before. Well, if you've never heard of Thai Newsroom it must be a load of b0llocks...that must be the rule. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: Well, if you've never heard of Thai Newsroom it must be a load of b0llocks...that must be the rule. no, i meant the usual main outlets didn't say it broke in half, only 1/7 articles i read mentioned it, so i wondered how true it was. also just read another that said it capsized. its hard to find the actual facts between Chinese whispers and flat out BS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actonion Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 On 12/23/2023 at 1:37 PM, NanLaew said: I think the licence for these vessels is issued by a 'harbour master', at least I recall that was the character mentioned in a similar tale of woe about a "ferry" from Pattaya to Koh Larn. I thought it was a strange job title for a place that never did have a harbour beyond the old fishing boat jetty. But getting back to whoever is responsible, I recall several fires in unlicensed night clubs where people burned to death. There's never any clarity if these places were ever inspected by the local fire department or if the local fire department turned a blind eye for one reason or another. Either way, I am sure harbour masters and fire chiefs look nice in their pressed uniforms with medals and campaign ribbons, etc.. Inspected or not inspected, do those who do the inspecting really know what they're looking for, there are so many unskilled workers in Thailand I think they just put on an inspectors hat and coat, & that's good enough ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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