Social Media Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 In response to ongoing attacks by Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in the Red Sea, the UK is exploring the possibility of sending an aircraft carrier to the region, according to Armed Forces Minister James Heappey. Concerns and Potential Deployment: Currently, the US aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (nicknamed "Ike") is stationed in the Red Sea to deter further attacks against Israel and prevent escalation of the conflict. However, the possibility of the "Ike" returning to America raises concerns about a potential "gap" in regional security. Heappey suggests the UK's HMS Queen Elizabeth or HMS Prince of Wales could be deployed to "plug this gap" if needed. Current UK Involvement: The UK has already been involved in the conflict, launching airstrikes against Houthi targets alongside the US. Additionally, the warship HMS Diamond patrols the Red Sea to protect vital shipping lanes. Key Considerations: The potential deployment of a UK aircraft carrier highlights the UK's commitment to regional security and its willingness to collaborate with allies like the US. It also brings questions about the long-term sustainability of UK involvement in the conflict and the potential escalation of tensions with Iran. Additional Information: The recent drone strike on a US base in Jordan, attributed to Iran-backed militias, further complicates the situation and intensifies regional anxieties. Chancellor Rishi Sunak has urged Iran to de-escalate tensions, reflecting international concerns about the potential for wider conflict. Overall, the potential deployment of a UK aircraft carrier to the Red Sea signifies a critical juncture in the ongoing conflict. It remains to be seen whether this move will contribute to de-escalation or further inflame regional tensions. 01.01.24 Source 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 Way to go Britain! Lets have another war. Is this Sunak's last desperate act to stave off being dumped? 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 19 minutes ago, Social Media said: Overall, the potential deployment of a UK aircraft carrier to the Red Sea signifies a critical juncture in the ongoing conflict. It remains to be seen whether this move will contribute to de-escalation or further inflame regional tensions. Seriously? In which minds will this not be seen as a provocation by the Houthis and Iran. It's like Sunak wants the Houthis to start attacking British shipping as well. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 23 minutes ago, Social Media said: Chancellor Rishi Sunak has urged Iran to de-escalate tensions, reflecting international concerns about the potential for wider conflict. I thought he was PM, but perhaps they call them Chancellors now. Soooooo, while calling on Iran to de escalate tensions he considers sending a dirty great provocation to the area. No wonder he's not doing well domestically if that's his level of intelligence. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 Why not put it in the English channel to protect the UK and it's citizens from the current invasion of illegal immigrants and all the social problems they are importing with them? Sunak needs to clean up his own back yard before he goes cleaning up someone else's. The sooner this clown is removed the better (assuming it's not by the Labour party of course, that would be out of the frying pan and into the fire). Leave Biden to spend more US taxpayers money funding the Israeli military. The UK doesn't need to stand with "Oirish" Joe, especially given his appaling behaviour and comments following Britain reclaiming it's sovereignty. Let him go it alone. There should be no more co-operation with the US while he is in charge. 1 2 2 1 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) If the British TV News has an equivalent of MSNBC's Joy Reid, I suggest they take the microphone away from her while they're reporting on this story. Or they may be in for a rare few seconds of honesty, along with an F bomb on the air. Edited February 1 by impulse 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 11 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Why not put it in the English channel to protect the UK and it's citizens from the current invasion of illegal immigrants and all the social problems they are importing with them? Sunak needs to clean up his own back yard before he goes cleaning up someone else's. The sooner this clown is removed the better (assuming it's not by the Labour party of course, that would be out of the frying pan and into the fire). Leave Biden to spend more US taxpayers money funding the Israeli military. The UK doesn't need to stand with "Oirish" Joe, especially given his appaling behaviour and comments following Britain reclaiming it's sovereignty. Let him go it alone. There should be no more co-operation with the US while he is in charge. Yet another thread in which you couldn’t control your need to insert your off topic immigrant fixation. 2 2 1 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 Right or wrong, happy or sad, the US has to do something. About a fifth of the volume of the world's total oil consumption passes through the Strait on a daily basis, Anyone who thinks the US will not react decisively is sadly mistaken. IMO that's what the Houthis are trying to provoke. I hope the US does not take the bait, but it is also a political issue and Biden might not have a choice. 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, impulse said: If the British TV News has an equivalent of MSNBC's Joy Reid, I suggest they take the microphone away from her while they're reporting on this story. Or they may be in for a rare few seconds of honesty, along with an F bomb on the air. British TV does not. Thank you for sharing your imaginative ramblings. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, Social Media said: The potential deployment of a UK aircraft carrier highlights the UK's commitment to regional security and its willingness to collaborate with allies like the US. I suspect the real consideration is protecting the trade route. Oil tankers being targeted is a threat to global oil prices, which would impact everyone, regardless of who’s flag the ship was sailing under. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 This situation is analogous to the time that ship was stuck in the Suez Canal, preventing fast(er) shipping between Europe and Asia. All free trading nations have the right to clear the blockage. With whatever tools they have. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woof999 Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Way to go Britain! Lets have another war. Is this Sunak's last desperate act to stave off being dumped? The article mentions a UK carrier being deployed to cover the potential movement out of the area of the US carrier that is already there. Were you just as pent up about the US carrier being there in the first place? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Way to go Britain! Lets have another war. Is this Sunak's last desperate act to stave off being dumped? @thaibeachlovers How is this 'another war'? Other than in your imagination, that is? Stave being dumped how? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Seriously? In which minds will this not be seen as a provocation by the Houthis and Iran. It's like Sunak wants the Houthis to start attacking British shipping as well. @thaibeachlovers Let's Roll Over And Pretend Nothing Happens, Says Poster. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JingerBen Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Morch said: @thaibeachlovers Let's Roll Over And Pretend Nothing Happens, Says Poster. That's always an option for the US and UK. Just like they did - and are doing - about the hideous massacre of 30,000+ Palestinian men, women, and children by the Zionist meshugas in Israel. Edited February 1 by JingerBen 3 2 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, JingerBen said: That's always an option for the US and UK. Just like they did - and are doing - about the hideous massacre of 30,000+ Palestinian men, women, and children by the Zionist meshugas in Israel. That would be just you hijacking the topic - maybe inspired by the Houthies. A war is a not a hideous massacre, and of course, a whole lot of them casualties are Hamas men, and not civilians. Figures are also somewhat lower than you posted. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/1/2024 at 2:15 PM, sirineou said: Right or wrong, happy or sad, the US has to do something. About a fifth of the volume of the world's total oil consumption passes through the Strait on a daily basis, Anyone who thinks the US will not react decisively is sadly mistaken. IMO that's what the Houthis are trying to provoke. I hope the US does not take the bait, but it is also a political issue and Biden might not have a choice. They don't have to take the aggressor option straight away. Stop the Gaza conflict- something Biden can do tomorrow, and then see if the Houthies will stand by their claim that it's only against the Gaza conflict. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/1/2024 at 2:30 PM, ballpoint said: This situation is analogous to the time that ship was stuck in the Suez Canal, preventing fast(er) shipping between Europe and Asia. All free trading nations have the right to clear the blockage. With whatever tools they have. No, it's more like the time Suez shipping was stopped for years by Egypt over israel. Did any "free trading nations" clear that blockage, with whatever tools they had? Did the US send a task force then? https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/africa/300264288/before-the-ever-given-all-the-other-times-the-suez-canal-was-forced-to-close A decade later, at the outbreak of the 1967 Mideast war, Egypt closed the canal to international shipping as Israeli forces struck again at the canal zone and entrenched in the Sinai Peninsula. This time, the canal was shut for eight years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: They don't have to take the aggressor option straight away. Stop the Gaza conflict- something Biden can do tomorrow, and then see if the Houthies will stand by their claim that it's only against the Gaza conflict. He would first have to liberate the Israeli occupied territories in the US (Washington DC) 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: They don't have to take the aggressor option straight away. Stop the Gaza conflict- something Biden can do tomorrow, and then see if the Houthies will stand by their claim that it's only against the Gaza conflict. First step in stopping the genocide in Palestine, and prove that Houthis that the US is opposed to it, Is: "Senators release a $118 billion package that pairs border policies with aid for Ukraine and Israel " "send $14 billion in military aid to Israel, " https://apnews.com/article/congress-border-security-ukraine-15e2e3fac2b29b5b4bbe1eae8eb1c924 This should really convince the Israelis (population 9.3 million) to stop . 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: They don't have to take the aggressor option straight away. Stop the Gaza conflict- something Biden can do tomorrow, and then see if the Houthies will stand by their claim that it's only against the Gaza conflict. @thaibeachlovers Other than in your imagination and propaganda posts, Biden cannot do this 'tomorrow'. Notably, you never ever comment about Hamas being able to stop things at will. It's just the USA and Israel, as far as you are concerned. And sure, you want to appease the Houthies, it's obvious from your posts. Won't happen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Britain has two aircraft carriers.....one is in the dock being fixed. It was supposed to go to NATO's scary war games that will make Russia shiver. It can't go. Will they send the one from the Red Sea or will it take too long to get there, or would they prefer it remain where it is and kill people not able to defend against it? The Americans are complaining that Britain is not ready for the next big conflict with XXXX fill in the space. BTW what does one call an armed person who kills people not able to defend against him? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: No, it's more like the time Suez shipping was stopped for years by Egypt over israel. Did any "free trading nations" clear that blockage, with whatever tools they had? Did the US send a task force then? https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/africa/300264288/before-the-ever-given-all-the-other-times-the-suez-canal-was-forced-to-close A decade later, at the outbreak of the 1967 Mideast war, Egypt closed the canal to international shipping as Israeli forces struck again at the canal zone and entrenched in the Sinai Peninsula. This time, the canal was shut for eight years. @thaibeachlovers The Houthies are attacking ships in international waters, flying flags of countries which they aren't at war with even. It's 'the same' only in your mind and propaganda posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denim Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 On 2/1/2024 at 4:41 AM, Social Media said: In response to ongoing attacks by Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in the Red Sea, the UK is exploring the possibility of sending an aircraft carrier to the region, according to Armed Forces Minister James Heappey. The Navy is considering requisiting a sufficient number of deep sea tugs to tow it there and manouver it into a safe anchorage. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, sirineou said: He would first have to liberate the Israeli occupied territories in the US (Washington DC) @sirineou You guys sure come out of the woods now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, sirineou said: First step in stopping the genocide in Palestine, and prove that Houthis that the US is opposed to it, Is: "Senators release a $118 billion package that pairs border policies with aid for Ukraine and Israel " "send $14 billion in military aid to Israel, " https://apnews.com/article/congress-border-security-ukraine-15e2e3fac2b29b5b4bbe1eae8eb1c924 This should really convince the Israelis (population 9.3 million) to stop . Another topic, the same topic hijack attempt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 35 minutes ago, Denim said: The Navy is considering requisiting a sufficient number of deep sea tugs to tow it there and manouver it into a safe anchorage. Seriously I just about fell off my chair at that one. Thanks for a bit of cheer in a gloomy world. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) On 2/5/2024 at 8:58 AM, retarius said: Britain has two aircraft carriers.....one is in the dock being fixed. It was supposed to go to NATO's scary war games that will make Russia shiver. It can't go. Will they send the one from the Red Sea or will it take too long to get there, or would they prefer it remain where it is and kill people not able to defend against it? The Americans are complaining that Britain is not ready for the next big conflict with XXXX fill in the space. BTW what does one call an armed person who kills people not able to defend against him? It must worry someone in Britain's government that if the Falklands situation were to happen today they likely couldn't do anything about it. Britain's navy used to rule the ocean waves, but now it seems to have run out of steam. How could a once proud nation go from ruling half the world ( the empire on which the sun never set ) to the rather pathetic semblance of a navy in such a short time. The Romans took hundreds of years to decline this far. https://www.quora.com/How-long-did-it-take-the-Roman-Empire-to-fall The fall of the Roman Empire was a complex process that took place over several centuries. Edited February 6 by stats off topic comment removed 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 2/1/2024 at 8:15 AM, sirineou said: Right or wrong, happy or sad, the US has to do something. About a fifth of the volume of the world's total oil consumption passes through the Strait on a daily basis, Anyone who thinks the US will not react decisively is sadly mistaken. IMO that's what the Houthis are trying to provoke. I hope the US does not take the bait, but it is also a political issue and Biden might not have a choice. What does it mean for the US to act "decisively"? I don't think I've found anyone on the internet with deep knowledge of the situation there thinks that the Houthis can be bombed into submission. Is the US going to send ground forces there? That doesn't seem likely. A quagmire, more likely. And now that I've used that word, is it ever used any way but metaphorically? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 29 minutes ago, placeholder said: What does it mean for the US to act "decisively"? I don't think I've found anyone on the internet with deep knowledge of the situation there thinks that the Houthis can be bombed into submission. Is the US going to send ground forces there? That doesn't seem likely. A quagmire, more likely. And now that I've used that word, is it ever used any way but metaphorically? de·ci·sive·ly 1. in a manner that settles an issue convincingly or produces a definite result. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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