Controversy erupts as Thai doctors clash over mRNA vaccine effect

[snoop1130]

 

Thai doctor Thiravat Hemachudha sparked controversy when he shared information about the potentially fatal effect of the messenger Ribonucleic Acid (mRNA) Covid-19 vaccine, citing English YouTuber John Campbell.

 

Thiravat shared information from the English YouTuber, and retired nurse educator, Campbell, on Facebook on February 19. Thiravat talked about a white clot that was found in people and dead bodies with a history of the mRNA Covid vaccines.

 

According to Thiravat, this white clot was found in the carotid arteries, major blood vessels that supply blood to the brain. It was suspected to be the cause of blood vessel clots and sudden deaths of some people.

 

Thiravat explained that the white clot was first discovered in mid-2021, following the introduction of mRNA vaccines in February of that year. These white clots were mostly found in people who had died suddenly and were also found in the system of people who received mRNA vaccines.

 

Thiravat also attached links to Campbell’s videos for others to see the source of his information. He cited that Campbell was credible due to several cooperations with the National Health Service in England and many medical schools and universities.

 

Thiravat emphasised during an interview with Channel 3 that he did not oppose Covid vaccines. He continued to encourage people to get vaccinated but wanted to share information that the public should be aware of, urging relevant departments to pay attention.

 

Forensic doctor disagrees

 

A forensic doctor from the Bhumibol Adulyadej Hospital, Auttasit Dunamnuay, disagreed with Thiravat. Auttasit stated that Thiravat misunderstood the white clot. This clot was not a new finding, and it was a natural phenomenon found after death. He said the white clot happened due to the sedimentation of the blood after death.

 

However, the public still questioned the discovery of the white clot in living people, as mentioned by Thiravat and Campbell. Some individuals expressed uncertainty about whom to believe, as both were doctors.

 

Thiravat later announced that he would avoid publicly discussing the white clot. He said he already reported all of the information he found useful. He insisted that he was not part of an anti-vaccine group but remained focused on understanding the effects of vaccines to enhance their efficiency and safety for users.

 

By Petch Petpailin

Caption: Photo via YouTube/ John Campbell and Facebook/ ธีระวัฒน์ เหมะจุฑา Thiravat Hemachudha

 

Source: The Thaiger 2024-02-21

 

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[smedly]

excess deaths still need an explanation which has not been forthcoming 

[johng]

Oopps !!!!!  Safe and Effective

 

There is also an article in the paper that cannot be named on here  entitled

Long Covid, vaccines may cause disease and death: Chula, Rangsit

 

also a new study

COVID-19 vaccines and adverse events of special interest: A multinational Global Vaccine Data Network (GVDN) cohort study of 99 million vaccinated individuals.

found here

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2024.01.100

which concludes

While our study confirmed previously iden­tified

rare safety signals following COVID-19 vaccination and contributed evidence on several other important outcomes, further
investigation is warranted to confirm associations and assess clinical
significance.

[pomchop]

12 minutes ago, smedly said:

excess deaths still need an explanation which has not been forthcoming 

you mean the maga morons who drank bleach and stuck a light up their butts or the excess deaths caused by people refusing the vaccines?

[Ben Zioner]

So, basically if a body decays after death it is because of the mRNA vaccine. Amazing.

[ikke1959]

Only big news in Thailand on many other news website around the world there is no mention of anything yet

[Peabody]

Maybe true: white clots yada yada.

Definitely true: COVID kills

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, pomchop said:

you mean the maga morons who drank bleach and stuck a light up their butts or the excess deaths caused by people refusing the vaccines?

You need to check some facts regarding excess deaths. A % are attributed to covid deaths but not all. 

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

So, basically if a body decays after death it is because of the mRNA vaccine. Amazing.

These clots have been found in living people. It has nothing to do with natural decomposition of a body. Suggest you watch the above videos I posted.

Edited February 21 by dinsdale

[Ben Zioner]

25 minutes ago, smedly said:

excess deaths still need an explanation which has not been forthcoming 

You are joking, aren't you? Or you haven't heard of Covid 19?

Edited February 21 by Ben Zioner

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, Ben Zioner said:

You are joking, aren't you? Or you haven't heard of Covid 19?

As I mentioned above covid deaths only account for some of the excess deaths not all.

[smedly]

21 minutes ago, pomchop said:

you mean the maga morons who drank bleach and stuck a light up their butts or the excess deaths caused by people refusing the vaccines?

no i don't, do your own research

[300sd]

41 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

A forensic doctor from the Bhumibol Adulyadej Hospital, Auttasit Dunamnuay, disagreed with Thiravat. Auttasit stated that Thiravat misunderstood the white clot. This clot was not a new finding, and it was a natural phenomenon found after death. He said the white clot happened due to the sedimentation of the blood after death.

Yes he should know. Might want to just confirm that opinion with the morticians around the world. They should certainly know what came before and what came after!

[stoner]

25 minutes ago, pomchop said:

you mean the maga morons who drank bleach and stuck a light up their butts or the excess deaths caused by people refusing the vaccines?

 

is there anything trump can't do ? 

[smedly]

30 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

So, basically if a body decays after death it is because of the mRNA vaccine. Amazing.

amazing that you are so ignorant concerning this issue, do some reading.

 

I am not suggesting something sinister, the fact there are a significant number of excess deaths post covid merits an explanation and investigation which has so far not happened .......... why ?

 

I am vaccinated twice so I have skin in the game

Edited February 21 by smedly

[Ben Zioner]

24 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

These clots have been found in living people. Suggest you watch the above videos I posted.

Ooh yeah, by embalmers...

[Bday Prang]

There will be plenty of people changing their tune as time passes,   Often the only difference between conspiracy theories and the truth is simply a matter of time

[dinsdale]

Just now, Ben Zioner said:

Ooh yeah, by embalmers...

Not sure what your getting at. Do you not think embalmers are in the very profession that will see these clots?

[Ben Zioner]

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

There will be plenty of people changing their tune as time passes,   Often the only difference between conspiracy theories and the truth is simply a matter of time

Indeed, this is how the Earth changed shape.

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

There will be plenty of people changing their tune as time passes,   Often the only difference between conspiracy theories and the truth is simply a matter of time

When people were saying that vaccines won't spread the virus when the narrative was it will stop the spread of the virus the former were called conspiracy theorists. It didn't take much time to turn that conspiracy into fact.

Edited February 21 by dinsdale

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, Ben Zioner said:

Ooh yeah, by embalmers...

why are you so quick to become a "denier" I've had 3 jabs , but I am perfectly willing to accept that I may have made a terrible mistake..  If there is a problem,  banging your vaccine drum won't help you. neither will crying   but,but but   the authorities and bill gates said it was ok .   

[NoDisplayName]

13 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

is there anything trump can't do ? 

 

Build the wall?

Lock 'er up?

Release the Kracken?

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

20 minutes ago, smedly said:

no i don't, do your own research

 

An interesting article about "do your own research":

 

 https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2023/12/20/why-doing-your-own-research-may-make-you-believe-fake-news/?sh=2ddae4391233

[spidermike007]

Whatever you do, do not dare to defy the narrative. Big Pharma, the CDC, the FDA, and who knows how many other 3 letter agencies do not appreciate your lack of fealty, when denying their "truth". 

[Ben Zioner]

30 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

These clots have been found in living people.

 

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Not sure what your getting at. Do you not think embalmers are in the very profession that will see these clots?

So they are embalming "living people"? You are so entertaining...

[stoner]

1 minute ago, NoDisplayName said:

Release the Kracken?

 

this one is good. thanks :)

[Emdog]

A forensic doctor from the Bhumibol Adulyadej Hospital, Auttasit Dunamnuay, disagreed with Thiravat shared information from the English YouTuber, and retired nurse educator,

If I were a gambling man, I'd put my money on a forensic doctor over a nurse educator knowing what's going on.

Any time something is ingested or shot into your body, there is a risk. Somewhere between 351 and 420,000 people die from food poisoning each year world wide. I'll keep on eating despite the risk

Some people have died from vaccines. That is a fact. But there are mountains of evidence that death rate from covid was far lower among populations that got a good vaccine compared to those who skipped

I'm gonna live forever or die trying

[zhounan]

It's a paid doctors versus real doctors clash.

[proton]

13 hours ago, JensenZ said:

 

 

Campbell is a nurse not a medical Dr, his opinion is no better than anyone else's

[Bday Prang]

12 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Indeed, this is how the Earth changed shape.

indeed it is,  the original narrative was that the earth was flat, those who disagreed were indeed treated as conspiracy theorists by authoritarian organisations such as the church for example .  However as is usual due to research and the application of science, by those who refused to accept what they were being told , the truth eventually emerged..  A small minority still believe the original narrative.the rest have woken up