How Safe Are You - Living in Thailand?

[MangoKorat]

I don't want to be a scraremonger but I think its fair to say that the world is far closer to all out war than its been since the Cuban Misile Crisis of 1962.  There's conflict in the Middle East, Syria, several in Africa and many people (including myself) don't think Putin's appetite will end with Ukraine.  Then there's the tension between the US and China - in particular in relation to Taiwan. There is also a general tension between Islamist factions, if not entire nations and the West in general.

 

I'm not a fan of nuclear weapons but I think its fair to say that the deterrent they have provided has almost certainly stopped major conflicts developing until now.  I'd like to think that deterrent still exists but we have several lunatic country leaders around the world at the moment.  Russia currently holds the world's largest stockpile of nucear warheads (6257) and is controlled by a madman with, in my opinion, designs on rebuilding the Soviet Union. There is also a distinct possibility that another, very unpredictable lunatic will take charge of the holder of the world's second biggest nuclear stockpile (5550), the USA later this year.

 

I believe Putin has major aspirations and has spent a lot of time trying to align himself with various nations including Iran, North Korea and China.  I'm not so sure however, that China would support Russia in any expansionist escapades he may embark upon. One thing I think is a distinct possibility is that if Putin takes Ukraine and then moves on to attack another country, in particular a NATO member, that would most likely be the spark that ignites a major world conflict.

 

Thailand likes to ride 'two horses' but if any major conflict kicks off, its geographical position will almost certainly dictate its allegiance - China is not the same 'helpless' country it was during WW2.

 

So, given that so many members here currently live in Thailand and have made major financial and marital committments in the country, how safe do you feel in Thailand at the moment?

Edited February 25 by MangoKorat

[QuantumQuandry]

1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

I don't want to be a scraremonger but I think its fair to say that the world is far closer to all out war than its been since the Cuban Misile Crisis of 1962

 

Good thing you don't want to be a scaremonger...

[MangoKorat]

Just now, QuantumQuandry said:

 

Good thing you don't want to be a scaremonger...

Look around the world - I'm simply commenting on how things are.

[Korat Kiwi]

As long as I've got my 2 minute noodles I'm happy. 😊

[Dolf]

5 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

Look around the world - I'm simply commenting on how things are.

I'd say no. Not even close. Thailand is friends with China, USA, Russia. Probably the safest country to be in. Got the 3 big guys onside.

[MangoKorat]

3 minutes ago, Korat Kiwi said:

As long as I've got my 2 minute noodles I'm happy. 😊

Ha Ha, I don't think Thailand is under any threat as a nuclear target - more what would your position as a foreigner, possibly from an 'enemy' country be if anything major kicked off?

[MangoKorat]

2 minutes ago, Dolf said:

I'd say no. Not even close. Thailand is friends with China, USA, Russia. Probably the safest country to be in. Got the 3 big guys onside.

In a major conflict, Thailand may have to pick one horse.  As I said, China is not the same 'helpless' country it was in WW2. 

[norfolkandchance]

7 minutes ago, Korat Kiwi said:

As long as I've got my 2 minute noodles I'm happy. 😊

And the 4 minute warning.

[Dolf]

Just now, MangoKorat said:

In a major conflict, Thailand may have to pick one horse.  As I said, China is not the same 'helpless' country it was in WW2. 

Nice scaremongering. Not for me. 0.00001% chance of Thailand being invaded by one of the big 3.

[Tropicalevo]

1 minute ago, Dolf said:

Nice scaremongering. Not for me. 0.00001% chance of Thailand being invaded by one of the big 3.

The other side of the coin though is that if Thailand were to be attacked, none of them would come to help.

Not likely to happen, but whilst we are on conspiracy theories......

[Dolf]

Just now, Tropicalevo said:

The other side of the coin though is that if Thailand were to be attacked, none of them would come to help.

Not likely to happen, but whilst we are on conspiracy theories......

China would help if you gave them great business deals. China wants money not war. 

[zhounan]

Wait a moment and make yourself this question: 

 

Surely we are not the ones who have been devastating the world for over two centuries, but we always blame others (Milosevic, Saddam, Gheddafi, Assad, Putin just mentioning the latest of a long list)?

 

[MangoKorat]

7 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

The other side of the coin though is that if Thailand were to be attacked, none of them would come to help.

Not likely to happen, but whilst we are on conspiracy theories......

There are no conspiracy theories here - I am simply taking an overview of how things currently are and have thrown in a few comments which are clearly my opinion. Thailand may like to ride the horse it thinks is most likely to win - even change horses as it has in the past but given the rise of China, it may not be allowed to in any future major conflict.

Edited February 25 by MangoKorat

[KhunLA]

I think the opposite, and the war mongering is all BS.   The countries, ALL, are too intertwined economically, trade wise to ever have an all out war.   Just not economical.   The little proxy wars provide more than enough stolen tax money from y'all to satisfy the puppeteers.

 

MSM keeps you scared enough, so that you don't question your gov't.   Along with letting you know the dire consequences when you do.

 

If the big one ever did happen, I really can't think of a better place to be, than where I am right now.   Almost self sufficient, and could have a bore hole dug, or just desalinate seawater if rain water wasn't enough.  Prepped & ready 

 

Those living rural, no worries.   Those in the metros, good luck surviving the first week or 2 

Edited February 25 by KhunLA

[HugoFastor]

20 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

So, given that so many members here currently live in Thailand and have made major financial and marital committments in the country, how safe do you feel in Thailand at the moment?

Since you enjoy worrying about the safety of living in Thailand, here are some more of the hazards you can start losing sleep over: crocodiles, food poisoning, snake bites, balconies with low railings, scorpions, taking a boat, the jet-skii mafia, the women, the soi dogs, taking a swim in the ocean, getting involved in any kind of business, investing in anything, driving a car, taking a night bus, riding a motorcycle, taking a minivan, dengue fever, floods, malaria, paraquat in the produce, hepatitis a/b/c, rabies, drunks, cops, taxi drivers, ambulance drivers, motorcycle taxi drivers, hi-so people in cars, hi-so people in bars, scams, air pollution, monitor lizards, two-tier pricing, mother in laws, lady boys, pick pockets, chain snatchers, phone snatchers, tuk-tuk drivers, domesticated elephants, domesticated tigers, tropical diseases, hiv, low hanging power cables, gonorrhea, low hanging roof overhangs, cancerous fluke worms, unhealthy drinking water and tuberculosis. 

 

 

[Dolf]

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I think the opposite, and the war mongering is all BS.   The countries, ALL, are too intertwined economically, trade wise to ever have an all out war.   Just not economical.   The little proxy wars provide more than enough stolen tax money from y'all to satisfy the puppeteers.

 

MSM keeps you scared enough, so that you don't question your gov't.   Along with letting you know the dire consequences when you do.

You said it perfectly. Can't add to that. All just a game.

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, HugoFastor said:

Since you enjoy worrying about the safety of living in Thailand, here are some more of the hazards you can start losing sleep over: crocodiles, food poisoning, snake bites, balconies with low railings, scorpions, taking a boat, the jet-skii mafia, the women, the soi dogs, taking a swim in the ocean, getting involved in any kind of business, investing in anything, driving a car, taking a night bus, riding a motorcycle, taking a minivan, dengue fever, floods, malaria, paraquat in the produce, hepatitis a/b/c, rabies, drunks, cops, taxi drivers, ambulance drivers, motorcycle taxi drivers, hi-so people in cars, hi-so people in bars, scams, air pollution, monitor lizards, two-tier pricing, mother in laws, lady boys, pick pockets, chain snatchers, phone snatchers, tuk-tuk drivers, domesticated elephants, domesticated tigers, tropical diseases, hiv, low hanging power cables, gonorrhea, low hanging roof overhangs, cancerous fluke worms, unhealthy drinking water and tuberculosis. 

 

 

Another great post and more real than ww3.

[Gecko123]

Biggest risk is climate change migration from neighboring countries, but because of geographic obstacles and Thailand's relative ability to secure its borders, risk is comparatively low. Thailand is relatively low risk when other armageddon scenarios are contemplated as well.

Edited February 25 by Gecko123

[GammaGlobulin]

Any, ANY, nuclear response from any country would inevitably cause nuclear winter.

 

Therefore, the question is:

 

How would you survive a nuclear winter in either Chiang Mai or in BKK.

 

Could you survive?

 

Well, most of us survived the recent pandemic.

But, nuclear winter is an entirely different ballgame.

 

Will we have nuclear winter here within the next five years?

 

This question is a difficult one to answer.

 

Still, are YOU betting For or Against nuclear winter in Thailand, next year, within two years, OR, before 2029?

 

I say: We will have nuclear winter in Thailand on or before 2025.

 

Get your mittens ready, and as much warm clothing as you can buy.

Thailand will soon be FRIGID, again....soon.

 

 (THIS time, folks, I am NOT Joking!)

 

ADDITIONALLY:  IMHO, nuclear winter will certainly put an end to PEACHES on Thailand's BEACHES, once and for all.  So then, enjoy while ye may!

 

 

 

 

Edited February 25 by GammaGlobulin

[Dolf]

8 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

Biggest risk is climate change migration from neighboring countries, but because of geographic obstacles and Thailand's relative ability to secure its borders, risk is comparatively low. Thailand scores high when other armageddon scenarios are contemplated as well.

Global warming would make northern countries more liveable. They are currently freezing. 

Edited February 25 by Dolf

[MangoKorat]

1 minute ago, Gecko123 said:

Biggest risk is climate change migration from neighboring countries, but because of geographic obstacles and Thailand's relative ability to secure its borders, risk is comparatively low. Thailand scores high when other armageddon scenarios are contemplated as well.

Yes, I didn't raise that one.  Its entirely possible that climate change will cause conflicts in the future but I think the immediate threat potential is someone crossing the point of no return and escalating the current situation exponentially.  My concern is Putin in particular - other countries have other voices than may temper any escalatory ambitions.  Putin does exactly what he wants and people who oppose or criticise him, face the consequences - viz a viz Prigozhin.

[Gecko123]

10 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Global warming would make northern countries more lifeable. They are currently freezing. 

You misread my post. I said climate refugees from neighboring countries. Climate refugees from other ASEAN countries aren't easily able to migrate to Norway or Canada because of geographic barriers (oceans, land masses, mountain ranges, etc.) Additionally, because most ASEAN countries are in the same boat from the standpoint of climate refugee risk, there would be limited motivation for someone to attempt climate change migration from, say, Laos, Cambodia, or Malaysia to Thailand.

 

 

Edited February 25 by Gecko123

[scubascuba3]

Media do a good job at stoking things up, Thailand is safer than back home

[MangoKorat]

17 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Any, ANY, nuclear response from any country would inevitably cause nuclear winter.

 

Therefore, the question is:

 

How would you survive a nuclear winter in either Chiang Mai or in BKK.

You are missing the point.  I'm fully aware of the effects of nuclear weapons.

 

What I'm asking is if members feel safe living in Thailand given the current tensions in the world and the way Thailand is likely to align.

 

To put it simply: I believe that in any major conflict, Thailand would be forced to align with China. Would Western expats then be considered as the enemy?

 

During WW2 thousands of Germans, Austrians and Italians living in the UK were locked up 'in the interests of National Security'. Some of them had lived in the country for many years.

Edited February 25 by MangoKorat

[KhunLA]

9 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Any, ANY, nuclear response from any country would inevitably cause nuclear winter.

 

Therefore, the question is:

 

How would you survive a nuclear winter in either Chiang Mai or in BKK.

 

Could you survive?

 

Well, most of us survived the recent pandemic.

But, nuclear winter is an entirely different ballgame.

 

Will we have nuclear winter here within the next five years?

 

This question is a difficult one to answer.

 

Still, are YOU betting For or Against nuclear winter in Thailand, next year, within two years, OR, before 2029?

 

I say: We will have nuclear winter in Thailand on or before 2025.

 

Get your mittens ready, and as much warm clothing as you can buy.

Thailand will soon be FRIGID, again....soon.

 

 (THIS time, folks, I am NOT Joking!)

 

 

Nuclear winter, another what if, hypothetical BS.

 

A few more that never came to pass:

Doomsday climate, hot & cold

Obvious BS ones

Pick one

[ChipButty]

4 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

You are missing the point.  I'm fully aware of the effects of nuclear weapons.

 

What I'm asking is if members feel safe living in Thailand given the current tensions in the world and the way Thailand is likely to align.

 

To put is simply: I believe that in any major conflict, Thailand would be forced to align with China. Would Western expats then be considered as the enemy?

 

During WW2 thousands of Germans, Austrians and Italians living in the UK were locked up 'in the interests of National Security'. Some of them had lived in the country for many years.

You need to find some new hobbies or get a woman

[KhunLA]

7 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

You are missing the point.  I'm fully aware of the effects of nuclear weapons.

 

What I'm asking is if members feel safe living in Thailand given the current tensions in the world and the way Thailand is likely to align.

 

To put is simply: I believe that in any major conflict, Thailand would be forced to align with China. Would Western expats then be considered as the enemy?

 

During WW2 thousands of Germans, Austrians and Italians living in the UK were locked up 'in the interests of National Security'. Some of them had lived in the country for many years.

TH would align with the obvious winners, CH, who would form a pact with RU.  Game Over for USA & NATO (UK/EU)

 

As would the other SEA countries, meaning they could feed & energize themselves.  Few countries can state that.

Edited February 25 by KhunLA

[Dolf]

5 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

You are missing the point.  I'm fully aware of the effects of nuclear weapons.

 

What I'm asking is if members feel safe living in Thailand given the current tensions in the world and the way Thailand is likely to align.

 

To put it simply: I believe that in any major conflict, Thailand would be forced to align with China. Would Western expats then be considered as the enemy?

 

During WW2 thousands of Germans, Austrians and Italians living in the UK were locked up 'in the interests of National Security'. Some of them had lived in the country for many years.

Maybe write a novel. Your writting skills are good and you have a good imagination.

[GammaGlobulin]

2 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

You are missing the point.  I'm fully aware of the effects of nuclear weapons.

 

What I'm asking is if members feel safe living in Thailand given the current tensions in the world and the way Thailand is likely to align.

 

To put is simply: I believe that in any major conflict, Thailand would be forced to align with China. Would Western expats then be considered as the enemy?

 

During WW2 thousands of Germans, Austrians and Italians living in the UK were locked up 'in the interests of National Security'. Some of them had lived in the country for many years.

 

I got your point.

I have often wondered about this same question which you mention here in this Topic.

If the Chinese come to Thailand to lock me up, then, at the very least, I will be able to fluently communicate with them in their own language.

 

However, if they check my posts made here on TV, the CPC may not like some of what I have written.

 

In case of nuclear winter, however, nobody will come to lock me up, since it will be too cold, even for the CPC.

We will be left to fend for ourselves.

 

And, also, in this case, the Farang community might survive a little longer than the Thai population, simply because we Farang can tolerate cold weather, easier.

 

If any Farang will be locked up by the CPC, then I think Americans will be the first group of Farang behind bars, or barbed wire.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

6 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Nuclear winter, another what if, hypothetical BS.

 

A few more that never came to pass:

Doomsday climate, hot & cold

Obvious BS ones

Pick one

 

a.  So far, no nuclear exchange of more than 25 big bombs.

b. Therefore, no nuclear winter.

c.  What had you expected?