UPDATE: Swiss man’s visa revoked

[wensiensheng]

39 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

Kicking is criminal assault... and you should be deported if you commit a crime when here... period.  They can decide whether to prosecute a crime before deporting, or just deporting... but he should be deported.   This has been so public that I do expect him to be deported, but if he has the money to smooth it over the best as possible - he might only be given a 1 year ban instead of what should happen for crimes which is a lifetime ban... (the only for 1 year would not be mentioned in the press though).   The moral of the story when visiting as a guest in another country (and we are all just guests as all visas including non-immigrant retirement and marriage visas are temporary -- hence non-immigrant) is be on your best behaviour and do not commit crimes while visiting.

Is speeding a crime? Not wearing a helmet when riding a motorcycle? Littering?

 

crime is a crime, right? So be careful what you wish for.

[Skipalongcassidy]

13 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I am thinking of many other incidents where tourists get the bad end of the stick.

 

He was not here as a tourist... and he has a history of bad acting... also not married.   Save your bleeding heart for someone who deserves it.

[ChrisY1]

Does anyone on this "forum" know this person...or is all the hate speech generated here, just from reading this forum, Phuket news and BP?

Staggering the farangs living in Phuket can be so spiteful over what is 2nd hand news and innuendo!

[Ironmike]

Now thanks to this guy everyone that wishes to live here is going to need a background check,, this is going to cost us a lot of money because we live in a country that is racist to each and everyone of us, one person does something wrong and we're all to blame,, good luck to the people that have lived here for 20 years like I have trying to get checked back home. I hope they put this ahole on a pig transport plane home. 

[bob smith]

7 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Fantastic news. Hopefully hundreds will be at the airport to bid him farewell. He was one of those people who seems to have brought misery with him, everywhere he went. Thailand does not need him, nor want him. Urs David Fehr brings nothing to the table. He is an empty suit. A waste of space. A toxic mass. He will not be missed. He took his life here for granted, mistreated good folks, and now he is paying the price. See ya! 

how do you know she was good?

 

bob.

[Skipalongcassidy]

55 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Unlike popular liberal left thinking mitigating events does not change the event that took place... each one stands on it's own... it is so schoolyard to point the finger and say BBBUUT look what Johnny did... equity thinking is the bane of intelligence.

So far the reaction to this statement is...  4 confused liberals... 1 sad one... and one happy one... figures.

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I would have preferred some kind of plan where this man was forced to humiliate himself publicly in a super dramatic way.

 

 

[Dolf]

6 minutes ago, Ironmike said:

Now thanks to this guy everyone that wishes to live here is going to need a background check,, this is going to cost us a lot of money because we live in a country that is racist to each and everyone of us, one person does something wrong and we're all to blame,, good luck to the people that have lived here for 20 years like I have trying to get checked back home. I hope they put this ahole on a pig transport plane home. 

He kicked someone. Biggest over reaction Ive seen.

[quake]

Just now, Bangkok Barry said:

 

 

 

I could think of a few Thai people who would look good in that. 

 

 

[roo860]

11 minutes ago, Ironmike said:

Now thanks to this guy everyone that wishes to live here is going to need a background check,, this is going to cost us a lot of money because we live in a country that is racist to each and everyone of us, one person does something wrong and we're all to blame,, good luck to the people that have lived here for 20 years like I have trying to get checked back home. I hope they put this ahole on a pig transport plane home. 

What a load of <deleted>

[Bangkok Barry]

 

It's interesting how much publicity and public outrage this has created. A day or so later a tourist was mown down and killed on a pedestrian crossing by a hit and run, and not a whisper. That's normal I suppose, while kicking someone isn't.

 

And don't take this post as support for the arrogant Swiss, who I'd rather see spend six months in a Thai jail than only be deported - if he ever is, as he isn't short of a baht or two. His problem in this case though is that he attacked a Thai, so money might not talk.

[impulse]

22 minutes ago, itsari said:

If the man is deported without a court deciding he is guity is worrying for all foreigners living here in Thailand.

 

True.  I know a lot of guys who have been in kerfuffles with neighbors, exes, taxi drivers and dodgy vendors that would look very bad in a trial by social media.  All it takes is a video edited to leave out one side of the story.

I'm not defending the guy or his behavior.  Just not too keen on the process of deporting the guy mostly because it went viral.

 

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, LivinginKata said:

 

She is Thai

Well that ruins ChipButty's fantasy then... maybe charge her for having a potty mouth then !

[bob smith]

3 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

It's interesting how much publicity and public outrage this has created. A day or so later a tourist was mown down and killed on a pedestrian crossing by a hit and run, and not a whisper. That's normal I suppose, while kicking someone isn't.

 

And don't take this post as support for the arrogant Swiss, who I'd rather see spend six months in a Thai jail than only be deported - if he ever is, as he isn't short of a baht or two. His problem in this case though is that he attacked a Thai, so money might not talk.

No.

 

The problem is the numpty filmed himself doing so and uploaded the video to social media!

 

I mean, how stupid is that??

 

bob.

[Dolf]

Just now, bob smith said:

No.

 

The problem is the numpty filmed himself doing so and uploaded the video to social media!

 

I mean, how stupid is that??

 

bob.

Very stupid.

[Bangkok Barry]

57 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

As much as his behaviour was despicable, this seems to be excessive. Potentially a life damaged. We are all here at the whim of the locals it appears, and can be subject to their tantrums and bad behaviour.... but beware, react and it could be blown out of proportion. 

 

I agree. It's Vindictive Against Farang Week, with minor events making headline news with calls to deport the offender. I'd say that the blocking of an ambulance as this arrogant idiot did was far more serious an offence, but nothing happened then, did it. Kick a Thai, hang him.

[nobodysfriend]

Yes , not a nice character , apparently .

But there was not much of a kicking ( bodily harm ) . Can be seen in the video .

He seems to be  a big spender ( 1 mio monthly rent !!! ) . His elephant sanctuary has all the papers needed .

He employs thai people . Kicking him out by revoking his visa is not the best decision . There should be a better solution ( like him being forced to do social work etc . )

I wonder why ' his ' land has no clear demarcation or fence . Was there a sign that indicated that members of the public have no right to access ?

Anyway , the thai " doctor " was no doctor yet , just a student .

That shows clearly that , in this country , aggression against natives is a no go .

Being tolerated as guests ( even if living here for many years ) , is all a farang can expect .

A foreigner in thailand is not without legal rights , but these have to be enforced by a tribunal , a judge . Costly process . but worth doing in some cases .

But not this one .

 

[Cabradelmar]

Now that is delicious. He deserves all this grief. Sadly, to have it reviewed does not necessarily mean to have it revoked. If his visa is straight and clean it will just be a review. Be we can hope. I'm curious to know what visa he is on. He owns an elephant sanctuary so maybe non-B; but I think he's married so he might be here on an extension based on marriage. Could be an Elite or an LTR. 

[Skipalongcassidy]

25 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Is speeding a crime? Not wearing a helmet when riding a motorcycle? Littering?

 

crime is a crime, right? So be careful what you wish for.

You are right... BUT criminality is broken down further... while speeding, no helmet, littering are crimes... they are "misdemeanors" and generally forgiven with a fine... ASSAULT & BATTERY is a felony on another person... and demands a totally different punishment.

[renaissanc]

I disagree with the idea of kicking him out of the country. He made a silly mistake. If you watch the daily news at midday, the incident is minuscule compared to what Thais are doing to each other. I mean extremely miniscule in comparison. He regrets what he did. In a month everyone will have forgotten what happened anyway. Leave him be to look after the elephants.

[Skipalongcassidy]

Just now, renaissanc said:

I disagree with the idea of kicking him out of the country. He made a silly mistake. If you watch the daily news at midday, the incident is minuscule compared to what Thais are doing to each other. I mean extremely miniscule in comparison. He regrets what he did. In a month everyone will have forgotten what happened anyway. Leave him be to look after the elephants.

So in your mind... ASSAULT & BATTERY is a silly mistake... sad

[BritManToo]

From a Thai rabbit FB page ..........

 

[OneMoreFarang]

I only read one page of comments. But it seems everybody here is happy that that guy probably has to leave the country.

 

I don't know him and looking at the picture he doesn't look like a nice guy.

But in a way it should scare us that we live in a country where a little problem can escalate into bye bye Thailand in a few days.

Who of us behaves all the time always correct?

I don't think I ever kicked a Thai person. But I definitely had some bad words for some idiots. And maybe I didn't let that Mercedes pass as the possibly hiso driver demanded. 

 

I guess the above event is a reminder to all of us that our lives can change suddenly and dramatically if we are not careful. 

[EVENKEEL]

Yes, Davis is a dick. But, for all of you who consider Thailand to be your home, you'd best mind your p's & q's. This whole situation has been blown way out of proportion. On the one hand I like how they have the ability to kick a foreigner out at will. I for one wish my home country had the balls to do the same to foreigners. One set of rules for citizens and another level of rules for visitors.

 

The other hand says as I've always felt that Thailand is not my home, just a place I happen to spend my time. I'm lucky to have kept my house in my home country and not to reliant on the Thai gov.

 

[bob smith]

3 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

You are right... BUT criminality is broken down further... while speeding, no helmet, littering are crimes... they are "misdemeanors" and generally forgiven with a fine... ASSAULT & BATTERY is a felony on another person... and demands a totally different punishment.

assault and battery? are you taking the proverbial urine?

 

the video HE recorded showed absolutely nothing of the sort and you know it!

 

bob.

[RobU]

1 hour ago, schultzlivgthai said:

At 45 years old, what type of visa would he have?

He has a work visa he is allowed to work in Thailand managing his elephant sanctuary 

[steven100]

he is an idiot and for what he did and he brought all this on himself.

 

I must say though I'm perplexed at the whole saga '...... 

 

if a foreigner did this to an Aussie in Australia or to a Canadian in Canada or anywhere in the west this wouldn't even rate a mention ....

it wouldn't even get onto the news most likely ....   even if the Aussie went to the police, the foreigner may end up receiving a fine after charges of assault possibly,    but that's probably all,,  then it's over.

 

 

why do they carry on so much here, why does every little mr meaner get on the news, social media  ...

is it because of Netizens  ?

is it because the west have more to be concerned about than idle incidents like this one... ?

 

 

[bob smith]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I only read one page of comments. But it seems everybody here is happy that that guy probably has to leave the country.

Not everyone is happy about it..

 

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I don't know him and looking at the picture he doesn't look like a nice guy.

and you just look like butter wouldnt melt dont you, a picture of perfection you are.

 

bob.

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

As much as his behaviour was despicable, this seems to be excessive. Potentially a life damaged. We are all here at the whim of the locals it appears, and can be subject to their tantrums and bad behaviour.... but beware, react and it could be blown out of proportion. 

 

Do not overstep the line and your stay here should be fairly stable.

[bkkcanuck8]

21 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Is speeding a crime? Not wearing a helmet when riding a motorcycle? Littering?

 

crime is a crime, right? So be careful what you wish for.

Speeding is generally not a crime, it is a traffic infraction and you are given a fine.  Similarly not wearing a helmet is the same.  General littering (i.e. dropping a paper on the ground), similarly so.  

 

Speeding can be a crime if you are going something like 80kph over the speed limit and/or you are charged with reckless driving

And of course littering can be if it rises in severity (like dumping and/or hazardous waste). 

 

You cannot walk up to someone and punch them, or kick them or anything like that.  Well, you can but then you can be charged with a crime and jailed -- in this case -- deportation is the way to go.