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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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10 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The US is trying to stop an invasion of Rafah no matter what.

Wouldn't they be better to stop providing the bombs and funds to Israel? 

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26 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Usual claptrap of but they have a border with Egypt, they also have an air and sea border that is blockaded by Israel, and a wall around it with the ability to contain all the occupants. 

 

8 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

What is clap trap about what Adams says. Are you sure that it is you that is afraid of the truth?

 

Truth, what have I said that is untruthful?

12 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

 

Truth, what have I said that is untruthful?

You have stated that Adams interview was clap trap, would you like to say why?

15 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

You have stated that Adams interview was clap trap, would you like to say why?

 

Why Egypt won't allow vulnerable Palestinians across its border:

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/26/1232826942/rafah-gaza-palestinians-egypt-border#:~:text=Early in the war%2C Egypt's,Israeli attacks and Egyptian counterattacks.

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

You have just validated what Adams has said, the interviewer asked Adams about Israel and he retorted "why don't you ask about Egypt and the interviewer (apparently she is an Al Jazeera reporter) would not answer it. So given your post doesn't answer why the interview with Adams was clap trap after all, can we assume it wasn't.

And to add insult to injury you use a left wing news source biased against Israel.

 

 NPR has been criticized for perceived bias in its coverage of Israel and the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.[4][5][6][7] The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), a pro-Israel American media monitoring organization based in Boston, has been particularly critical of NPR. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR_controversies#:~:text=NPR has been criticized for,been particularly critical of NPR.

 

26 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

   When neighbouring Jordon and Lebanon allowed Palestinian into their Countries

The Palestinians formed militias and tried to take over the Country by force and both ended up in civil wars between the Palestinians and the Government .

    Egypt doesn't want a civil war 

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

 

Truth, what have I said that is untruthful?

That's a tough one to answer :cheesy:

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Wouldn't they be better to stop providing the bombs and funds to Israel? 

 

Too late, they have enough bombs to level Rafah as it is. Diplomatic pressure is the only way out now.

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Too late, they have enough bombs to level Rafah as it is. Diplomatic pressure is the only way out now.

Well, they will know the next time Israel asks for aid.

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Usual claptrap of but they have a border with Egypt, they also have an air and sea border that is blockaded by Israel, and a wall around it with the ability to contain all the occupants. 

 

   But Gaza does have a border with Egypt , which is not only a wall border but also an an air border 🙂

 

 

 

   Egypt's border wall with GazaPatrick Bet-David on X: "This is the Israel-Egypt border wall built to  protect the Gaza border and an underground steel wall that extends 60ft  below. The 152 mile barrier goes from the

23 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

"Israel has the right to defend, not for revenge".

 

 

"Israel has the right to defend, not for revenge".

 

Who said that? I've read the read out transcript cant see that anywhere

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28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

"Israel has the right to defend, not for revenge".

 

Who said that? I've read the read out transcript cant see that anywhere

 

look again. The quote is in the video.

 

Your comment seems to show that you believe revenge is an appropriate response.

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

look again. The quote is in the video.

 

Your comment seems to show that you believe revenge is an appropriate response.

I said I read the read out by Blinken, he did not say it so who did? This is a discussion forum not youtube bookmarks. If you've seen the vid you should know.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I said I read the read out by Blinken, he did not say it so who did? This is a discussion forum not youtube bookmarks. If you've seen the vid you should know.

 

 

 

 a person in the video said it. Try watching videos before attempting to call me out for lying about their content.

 

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

 a person ion the video said it. Try watching videos before attempting to call me out for lying.

Can you tell me where I said you were lying? I asked who said that, it was not Blinken. You felt it was a very important statement as you put it as the title, who said this, simple question for you. No I have no intention of watching the video, I have all I need from the US gov press release on it.

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

 a person in the video said it. Try watching videos before attempting to call me out for lying about their content.

 

The way it was presented in the post strongly implied that Blinken said it, so as he didn't, that was a  sleazy move.

8 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

look again. The quote is in the video.

 

Your comment seems to show that you believe revenge is an appropriate response.

His comment "seems" to show nothing of the kind. More sleazy games.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you tell me where I said you were lying? I asked who said that, it was not Blinken. You felt it was a very important statement as you put it as the title, who said this, simple question for you. No I have no intention of watching the video, I have all I need from the US gov press release on it.

 

"Who said that? I've read the read out transcript cant see that anywhere "

 

You said transcript. It's reasonable to mean transcript of the video, you didn't specify. Nonetheless you called m on the quote.

 

Again, you you believe revenge is an appropriate response? Try some meaningful discussion instead of constant attacks.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The way it was presented in the post strongly implied that Blinken said it, so as he didn't, that was a  sleazy move.

 

Nope, it strongly suggest I quoted form the video I posted., I didn't not reference Blinken in any way in my comment.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

His comment "seems" to show nothing of the kind. More sleazy games.

 

How about you answer the same question. Is revenge an appropriate response? That's what my comment was all about.

 

 

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

"Who said that? I've read the read out transcript cant see that anywhere "

 

You said transcript. It's reasonable to mean transcript of the video, you didn't specify. Nonetheless you called m on the quote.

 

Again, you you believe revenge is an appropriate response? Try some meaningful discussion instead of constant attacks.

Meaning full discussion would be you stating who made that quote when asked rather than misleading people that is was Blinken

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Meaning full discussion would be you stating who made that quote when asked rather than misleading people that is was Blinken

 

The comment stands on it's own merits even if Mickey Mouse said it. The comment was accurately quoted form the video. Deal with it.

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

The comment stands on it's own merits even if Mickey Mouse said it. The comment was accurately quoted form the video. Deal with it.

Its up to you to say who by, its not up to me to be forced to watch a 20 minute video on a discussion forum to see who your quote came from.

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

It seems that neither you or Brian have the courage of your convictions to state where you stand on that sentiment. You only want to attack it. I'll draw the only possible inference I can from that.

Or you could just say who said it rather than deflect. 

4 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Or you could just say who said it rather than deflect. 

 

Watch the video and enlighten yourself. Why comment on a link you didn't watch?

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

Watch the video and enlighten yourself. Why comment on a link you didn't watch?

You made the quote fella. Naughty naughty

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

Watch the video and enlighten yourself. Why comment on a link you didn't watch?

Have you watched it, if so stop being inflammatory, why are you keeping it a secret. It's supposed to be a debate not a game of charades!

6 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

You made the quote fella. Naughty naughty

 

Where was I required to state who said it? It's in the link.  I didn't care who said it. I cared only about the sentiment expressed. You're running away from the sentiment and doing whatever you can to discredit me for quoting it. Pretty telling.

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