Just now, WDSmart said:

Not permitted to link Reuters? Where can you see a list of all these rules? 

Yes you are permitted, its more of his misinformation

Thousands rally in Tel Aviv demanding prisoner exchange deal with Hamas

 

According to the Israel Broadcasting Authority, a large crowd gathered in Kaplan Square, central Tel Aviv to protest against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government and urge for a hostage exchange with Hamas.

 

“We announce the death of the Zionist captive Yejiv Bukhattaf, 34, due to shortages of medicine and food,” Al-Qassam stated via Telegram.

 

“We previously warned that enemy captives suffer from the same conditions as our people; hunger, deprivation, shortages of food and medicine, and that illness now threatens the lives of many of them,” the armed wing added.

 

Commenting on the video, Al-Qassam said: “What the people of Gaza suffer from, the siege and shortages of food and medicine, your captives will also suffer from (referring to Israel and the families of captives).”

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-hostage-dies-in-gaza-due-to-lack-of-medicine-food/3173101

28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Modify your claim........lol Your link points to a claim of 70% of civilian buildings, your original claim was 85% of the whole of Gaza leveled. That is not modification that is a weak attempt at covering up a lie.

 

The actual figure is 35% remember that for the future

 

I posted a link yesterday from November, which says that 70% of Palestinian homes (not buildings) had been destroyed. Current estimates of buildings as a whole stand at 35%, which is massive in any case.

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I posted a link yesterday from November, which says that 70% of Palestinian homes (not buildings) had been destroyed. Current estimates of buildings as a whole stand at 35%, which is massive in any case.

I posted a link yesterday from November, which says that 70% of Palestinian homes (not buildings) had been destroyed.

 

Yes I know you did, you posted that to me, so why are you doing the same thing yet again?

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

I posted a link yesterday from November, which says that 70% of Palestinian homes (not buildings) had been destroyed.

 

Yes I know you did, you posted that to me, so why are you doing the same thing yet again?

 

I was clarifying the issue as I see lots of arguing on this page about figures and it seems there is confusion between buildings and homes. So yes, in November, already 70% of Palestinian homes had been wiped out, it is sufficiently serious to be repeated once.

 

"so why are you doing the same thing yet again?"

What do you mean by that?

Among the items rejected during inspections are oxygen cylinders and anaesthetics for hospitals, which are vital for those injured in airstrikes, including the 10 children on average each day who are having to get one or both of their legs amputated. Stone fruit is being refused entry under the explanation that the stones could be used as bullets or used to plant trees, even while famine looms, and tent poles – which are key to providing shelter for Gaza’s 1.9million displaced people – are also being turned away, ActionAid has heard.  

 

https://actionaid.org/news/2024/essential-aid-including-food-and-medical-supplies-prevented-entering-gaza-23-million

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I was clarifying the issue as I see lots of arguing on this page about figures and it seems there is confusion between buildings and homes. So yes, in November, already 70% of Palestinian homes had been wiped out, it is sufficiently serious to be repeated once.

 

"so why are you doing the same thing yet again?"

What do you mean by that?

What do you mean by that?

 

You know what I mean by that and yes its is just 35% of building that have been destroyed or damaged, not 85% as the poster claimed.

 

 

Around 97 percent of the ground water in Gaza is reportedly unfit for human consumption.

 

As of 15 February 2024, over 46 percent of all cropland in the Gaza Strip was assessed to be damaged. Likewise, agricultural infrastructure has been devastated, with the highest levels of destruction to animal shelters, sheep farms, dairy farms, home barns and broiler farms.

 

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/gaza-briefing-un-security-council-fao-calls-immediate-cessation-hostilities-and-restoration-humanitarian-space-eliminate-risk-famine

22 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I posted a link yesterday from November, which says that 70% of Palestinian homes (not buildings) had been destroyed. Current estimates of buildings as a whole stand at 35%, which is massive in any case.

 

   That is 35 % of building have been destroyed or damaged by bombs

About half that 35 % of buildings have been completely destroyed , the other half have just been damaged 

The numbers of captured terrorists are huge for the Shifa Hospital operation, update just a few mins ago 

 

IDF: 480 of 800 detained suspects at Shifa Hospital are Hamas or Islamic Jihad members

The IDF’s nearly weeklong operation continues at Gaza City’s Shifa Hospital, with the military saying that among some 800 suspects detained by troops, 480 of them have been confirmed to be members of the Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror groups.

Troops also located infrastructure belonging to terror groups and caches of weapons over the past, the IDF says.

Times of Israel

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What do you mean by that?

 

You know what I mean by that and yes its is just 35% of building that have been destroyed or damaged, not 85% as the poster claimed.

 

I already said I'd accept that the figure is at elast 70% and relates to homes, not all buildings. I also said it includes Rafah which has not been bombed yet. My point is made. Nitpicking over the actual number doesn't materially alter the fact that this is a war crime of horrific proportions. I don't obsess over the actual numbers, only the broader point which is the war crimes perpetrated by Israel.

 

The Wall Street Journal reports that almost half of Gaza’s buildings have been damaged or destroyed in the war there, a figure that also accounts for almost 70 percent of its 439,000 homes.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/some-70-of-gaza-homes-damaged-or-destroyed-wall-street-journal-analysis/

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That is 35 % of building have been destroyed or damaged by bombs

About half that 35 % of buildings have been completely destroyed , the other half have just been damaged 

Just for a comparison, when the US dropped an atomic bomb on Nagasaki in 1947, 40% of Nagasaki's buildings were destroyed...
what percent of nagasaki was destroyed - Search (bing.com)

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

I already said I'd accept that the figure is at elast 70% and relates to homes, not all buildings. I also said it includes Rafah which has not been bombed yet. My point is made. Nitpicking over the actual number doesn't materially alter the fact that this is a war crime of horrific proportions.

 

The Wall Street Journal reports that almost half of Gaza’s buildings have been damaged or destroyed in the war there, a figure that also accounts for almost 70 percent of its 439,000 homes.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/some-70-of-gaza-homes-damaged-or-destroyed-wall-street-journal-analysis/

Such a huge discrepancy is not nit picking, its updated factual UN satellite analysis that is now the given credible figure and the one quoted by UN.

 

35% OF BUILDINGS AFFECTED IN GAZA STRIP

https://unitar.org/about/news-stories/press/35-buildings-affected-gaza-strip

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Such a huge discrepancy is not nit picking, its updated factual UN satellite analysis that is now the given credible figure and the one quoted by UN.

 

35% OF BUILDINGS AFFECTED IN GAZA STRIP

https://unitar.org/about/news-stories/press/35-buildings-affected-gaza-strip

 

Even a third would still be a war crime.

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

Even a third would still be a war crime.

Your claims are worthless without a credible link to that in Gaza

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Your claims are worthless without a credible link to that in Gaza

 

That's your claim.

Over 76% of Gaza’s schools are damaged or destroyed. (January)

 

https://www.actionagainsthunger.org/story/children-suffer-as-education-under-attack-in-the-west-bank-and-gaza/

 

 

 

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

That's your claim.

No that's the forum rules:

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

 

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

No that's the forum rules:

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

 

 

I commented on YOUR claim and link!

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

I commented on YOUR claim and link!

You made a claim, stop the deflection:

 

"Even a third would still be a war crime."

 

Do you have a link to that?

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You made a claim, stop the deflection:

 

"Even a third would still be a war crime."

 

Do you have a link to that?

 

It's my opinion. Would 35% not be a war crime?

United Nations (UN) Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories Francesca Albanese shared that the crimes committed by Israel in the Gaza Strip since 7 October could preoccupy the International Criminal Court (ICC) for the next 50 years.

This came in a post on her X account on Friday, in which Albanese published a video showing the Israeli army killing four Palestinian civilians in the city of Khan Younis, south of the Gaza Strip, using an armed drone.

 

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240323-un-rapporteur-israels-crimes-in-gaza-may-occupy-icc-for-50-years/

 

The video shows the killing of 4 civilians including that of an injured man. A clear war crime.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhVV2_mub84

 

8 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Just for a comparison, when the US dropped an atomic bomb on Nagasaki in 1947, 40% of Nagasaki's buildings were destroyed...
what percent of nagasaki was destroyed - Search (bing.com)

I don't see your point, Israel has a task to dismantle Hamas for they started on the on 7/10, that task has not been fully completed, should the terrorists surrender and hand over the hostages the war would end, the ball is in their court. To quote Douglas Adams "you don't put 3/4 of a fire out, you put it all out."

23 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

 

 

Another notable contradiction in the notion of racism. Israel is an institutionally racist country (just look at the way blacks are discriminated there),

 

 

 

   Could you back that allegation up ?

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

It's my opinion. Would 35% not be a war crime?

Moving the goal posts now from a factual claim to an opinion because you cannot provide a link. Which is of course impossible as the only way to make that judgement is for each and every individual case of bombing to be investigated by the ICC and "if" evidence found then tried in court.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Wobblybob said:

16 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Just for a comparison, when the US dropped an atomic bomb on Nagasaki in 1947, 40% of Nagasaki's buildings were destroyed...
what percent of nagasaki was destroyed - Search (bing.com)

I don't see your point, Israel has a task to dismantle Hamas for they started on the on 7/10, that task has not been fully completed, should the terrorists surrender and hand over the hostages the war would end, the ball is in their court. To quote Douglas Adams "you don't put 3/4 of a fire out, you put it all out."

I posted this mainly to show you how much devastation there is of even 35% of an area.

If Israel wants the hostages back, they should present a proposal to Hamas. The ball is in both courts. Either one could present a proposal.

"...beware of playing with fire, you will get burned." Joseph J. Ellis

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I posted this mainly to show you how much devastation there is of even 35% of an area.

If Israel wants the hostages back, they should present a proposal to Hamas. The ball is in both courts. Either one could present a proposal.

"...beware of playing with fire, you will get burned." Joseph J. Ellis

 

   Didnt you know that there have been recent meetings between the two to discuss the situation ?

Netanyahu announces a new seizure of 2,000 acres of West Bank land as Blinken arrives, mitrroring his actions when Obama visited him.