transam Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, traveller101 said: Guilty as charged on all accounts seems to be the prevailing opinion, followed by all sort of suggestions about the just punishment - from sending him to years in prison to transporting him back to Switzerland inside the wheel well. Would it be too much to ask awaiting the outcome of the upcoming trial before rendering judgement? The trial is for physical assault, which we know is fact. The rest of Dave's woes are yet to be seen, so hang in there, early days. But, looking at it from another angle, Dave has stirred a hornet's nest for other farangy's that may be in bigger trouble than him, so just give a thought for those you will probably not hear about......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 28 minutes ago, sambum said: If you are going to quote somebody at least have the decency to quote them correctly - I did not claim that "someone was in danger of dying" - what I said was:- "Yes, anybody who acts as he does is a threat to society - from kicking a woman in the back, to impeding an ambulance that may be a contributing factor in causing someone's death." So he refused to apologise, then he did, he cut in front of an ambulance, thereby impeding it, but you claim he did not impede it? Are you a friend/relative/legal representative of this guy? Because you certainly seem to be going out of your way to justify his despicable behaviour! I quoted your original post. You claimed, "impeding the ambulance may be a contributing factor in causing someone's death." It wasn't. The ambulance was not on urgent business. I posted the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 44 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said: Jumping to conclusions -- and then defending those erroneous conclusions in the face of all logic and data -- is the only exercise MeeSeeks gets. Let's not take that away from him. Stick to the ad hominem, you are useless at facts, logic, and data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 12 minutes ago, traveller101 said: Guilty as charged on all accounts seems to be the prevailing opinion, followed by all sort of suggestions about the just punishment - from sending him to years in prison to transporting him back to Switzerland inside the wheel well. Would it be too much to ask awaiting the outcome of the upcoming trial before rendering judgement? Personally, I have made no suggestions as to what punishment this man should receive, but from his previous behaviour, he would appear to be of the type that indulge in all kinds of bad behaviour without any repercussions, so he has set himself up to all kinds of suggestions regarding his "come uppance"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: I quoted your original post. You claimed, "impeding the ambulance may be a contributing factor in causing someone's death." It wasn't. The ambulance was not on urgent business. I posted the facts. NO YOU DIDN'T! What part of "may be" do you not understand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 12 hours ago, roo860 said: Link please. Authorities have already withdrawn the licenses for a pistol and rifle. Mr Fehr owned the pistol, while the Elephant Foundation owned the rifle. https://www.chiangraitimes.com/news/elephant-sanctuary-in-phuket/ In the case of firearms, David possesses two firearms, a handgun, a Glock, and a rifle, and has a Grade 4 licence to own and use firearms after seeking authorization for buying and possessing them in the name of the foundation. https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2024/03/08/the-david-effects-swiss-man-case-leads-for-more-inspections/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, sambum said: NO YOU DIDN'T! What part of "may be" do you not understand? You were insinuating that he could have caused someone's death, which wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoExpat Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Stick to the ad hominem, you are useless at facts, logic, and data. Says the guy who just went ad hominem, love the irony! And says the guy who has an entire forum arguing with him over how stupid his posts are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, ChicagoExpat said: Says the guy who just went ad hominem, love the irony! And says the guy who has an entire forum arguing with him over how stupid his posts are. It's only posters that can't control their emotions, and are not dealing in facts, logic, and the data of this case that seem to have a problem with what I posted. I have simply been stating facts as they have been reported. It seems this case has folk like you rattled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, Mr Meeseeks said: You were insinuating that he could have caused someone's death, which wasn't the case. Do you not understand English? "Insinuating" that something may happen is not the same as saying that something will happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, sambum said: Do you not understand English? "Insinuating" that something may happen is not the same as saying that something will happen! You insinuated that someone may have died as a result of the Swissman's actions, so I posted the facts of what happened as they have been reported. You know fine well what you were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller101 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 15 hours ago, sambum said: Unless he is a Thai citizen, can we stop with the lies and exaggerations, please? Can we stop omitting vital information - either intentionally or due to a lack of knowledge - surrounding the subject - repeated ad nauseam - of foreigners are not allowed to own a firearm. Please? This clause applies from October 2017, there is no provision in the law clarifying whether licenses issued to foreigners prior to that date deemed to be invalid. These owners licenses were never revoked, they were never approached by authorities and asked to hand in their firearms. One member of this forum specifically pointed out, that he has 2 firearms in his home, both lawfully registered in his name prior to 2017. Let that Sink in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said: It's only posters that can't control their emotions, and are not dealing in facts, logic, and the data of this case that seem to have a problem with what I posted. I have simply been stating facts as they have been reported. It seems this case has folk like you rattled. "I have simply been stating facts as they have been reported." As I said in an earlier post (and most of the posters on this thread seem to agree" :- "Bull***t"!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, traveller101 said: Can we stop omitting vital information - either intentionally or due to a lack of knowledge - surrounding the subject - repeated ad nauseam - of foreigners are not allowed to own a firearm. Please? This clause applies from October 2017, there is no provision in the law clarifying whether licenses issued to foreigners prior to that date deemed to be invalid. These owners licenses were never revoked, they were never approached by authorities and asked to hand in their firearms. One member of this forum specifically pointed out, that he has 2 firearms in his home, both lawfully registered in his name prior to 2017. Let that Sink in! Owning the firearms legally with a licence doesn't fit the narrative that Swissman David is a danger to society or a bad man and should be deported without trial or due process. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, traveller101 said: Can we stop omitting vital information - either intentionally or due to a lack of knowledge - surrounding the subject - repeated ad nauseam - of foreigners are not allowed to own a firearm. Please? This clause applies from October 2017, there is no provision in the law clarifying whether licenses issued to foreigners prior to that date deemed to be invalid. These owners licenses were never revoked, they were never approached by authorities and asked to hand in their firearms. One member of this forum specifically pointed out, that he has 2 firearms in his home, both lawfully registered in his name prior to 2017. Let that Sink in! Is one post not enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 2 minutes ago, traveller101 said: Can we stop omitting vital information - either intentionally or due to a lack of knowledge - surrounding the subject - repeated ad nauseam - of foreigners are not allowed to own a firearm. Please? This clause applies from October 2017, there is no provision in the law clarifying whether licenses issued to foreigners prior to that date deemed to be invalid. These owners licenses were never revoked, they were never approached by authorities and asked to hand in their firearms. One member of this forum specifically pointed out, that he has 2 firearms in his home, both lawfully registered in his name prior to 2017. Let that Sink in! Obviously you need to post the same information multiple times to get your point across! 🙂 (3 times and counting!) Edited March 11 by sambum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 16 hours ago, transam said: He has yet to go to trial over the assault, but he has admitted the offence, so that is enough for immigration. Police investigators have now filed charges of assault against Fehr which he has denied with investigators in the process of questioning two more eyewitnesses. https://thainewsroom.com/2024/03/04/senior-phuket-policeman-just-a-friend-of-a-friend-of-swiss-man-facing-charges/ Interesting article, apart from the denial of assault, he is pictured hob-nobbing with senior Thai Police in Phuket. *Bold is mine for emphasis. Edited March 11 by Mr Meeseeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 17 minutes ago, transam said: The trial is for physical assault, which we know is fact. The rest of Dave's woes are yet to be seen, so hang in there, early days. But, looking at it from another angle, Dave has stirred a hornet's nest for other farangy's that may be in bigger trouble than him, so just give a thought for those you will probably not hear about......... One media outlet has labelled it The David Effects Think of all those homeowners that last month had land titles to their properties only to have those land titles revoked Or all the homeowners who had access to their own exclusive beach now to be told your own exclusive beach will be now shared with the general public that also must effect property values as your own private beach must have a higher value than you will have access to a public beach And all the people that have had their collar felt by local police there must have been serious words sent from Bangkok sort it or else 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 58 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Police investigators have now filed charges of assault against Fehr which he has denied with investigators in the process of questioning two more eyewitnesses. https://thainewsroom.com/2024/03/04/senior-phuket-policeman-just-a-friend-of-a-friend-of-swiss-man-facing-charges/ Interesting article, apart from the denial of assault, he is pictured hob-nobbing with senior Thai Police in Phuket. *Bold is mine for emphasis. If I was in his position, I would now deny it too..........😝 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigStar Posted March 11 Popular Post Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Owning the firearms legally with a licence doesn't fit the narrative that Swissman David is a danger to society Yep. He doesn't need firearms and now that his arrogance, recklessness, and bad temper are on display, the authorities acted prudently to take them away from him. If the authorities in the USA would do a lot more confiscation from the unstable, a lot of shootings would be prevented. 1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said: or a bad man and should be deported without trial or due process. Looks like he definitely did some bad things, whether he lied about them (expected) or not. Deportation is an administrative, not judicial, decision; a trial isn't required. His behavior has been given due consideration. 🙂 1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Interesting article, apart from the denial of assault, he is pictured hob-nobbing with senior Thai Police in Phuket. How fickle the finger of Fate. But he brought it all down on himself. Wolfgang Ullrich had similar photos; deported, blacklisted. So when are those bribes kicking in that our shrewdest posters have assured us will get him off? Looking bleak here. Ain't "disappearing and forgotten." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1804 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On 3/9/2024 at 6:27 PM, Olmate said: Better rush of your bleat about the kick to Anutin, and tell him about others comments too. Stop digging, your Mum is worried about you!! Wally!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Multiple duplicate posts by the same person have been removed, they all have to be removed manually and in this respect it is trolling and making work for admin and moderators, do this again and you could be suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Authorities have already withdrawn the licenses for a pistol and rifle. Mr Fehr owned the pistol, while the Elephant Foundation owned the rifle. https://www.chiangraitimes.com/news/elephant-sanctuary-in-phuket/ In the case of firearms, David possesses two firearms, a handgun, a Glock, and a rifle, and has a Grade 4 licence to own and use firearms after seeking authorization for buying and possessing them in the name of the foundation. https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2024/03/08/the-david-effects-swiss-man-case-leads-for-more-inspections/ Thanks, I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSilver Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On 3/9/2024 at 2:46 AM, NoshowJones said: "LOS" also stands for Land of Stupidity, there are very much more Thai people with a lack of intelligence than scammers. You are probably referring to tourist areas, where I live upcountry I don't come across scammers but see plenty of underage motorbike riders, and the driving and riding is absolutely dreadful, but go to a tourist area anywhere in the world and you will find plenty of scammers. Well, I would say it stands for both than 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSilver Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On 3/9/2024 at 7:18 AM, FritsSikkink said: Keep your racist stuff to yourself, idiot. The truth hurt right? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 39 minutes ago, DjSilver said: The truth hurt right? 🤣 On ignore, no time for racist comments. Edited March 11 by FritsSikkink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton9 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) This man is obviously a jerk and he probably deserves to lose his visa. What I don't understand it's why such a minor incident has been making headlines for weeks, if a foreigner did this in europe it won't not even be in the last paragraph of the smallest local town newspaper. Edited March 11 by Anton9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post couchpotato Posted March 11 Popular Post Share Posted March 11 19 minutes ago, Anton9 said: This man is obviously a jerk and he probably deserves to lose his visa. What I don't understand it's why such a minor incident has been making headlines for weeks, if a foreigner did this in europe it won't not even be in the last paragraph of the smallest local town newspaper. She is a Doctor and her father is well respected/quite famous in Thailand, so once they made the police report it went to the top of the chain...so that's it really. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 7 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: You insinuated that someone may have died as a result of the Swissman's actions, so I posted the facts of what happened as they have been reported. You know fine well what you were doing. Apparently you don't! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 7 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: You were insinuating that he could have caused someone's death, which wasn't the case. But, but, - but you said in an earlier post that I said "there was no-one in danger of dying as you claimed earlier." Bit different to "insinuating that he could have caused someone's death"! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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