70 percent in new poll reject Trump presidential immunity claim

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A recent Politico Magazine/Ipsos poll released on Monday reveals a resounding rejection of former President Trump's legal argument advocating for presidential immunity from criminal prosecution. The survey, conducted among a sample of 1,024 U.S. adults online from March 8 to March 10, highlights a significant majority of Americans who oppose Trump's stance on presidential immunity.

 

According to the poll results, a striking 70 percent of respondents dismiss Trump's assertion of presidential immunity, with only a mere 11 percent supporting the idea. The remaining 18 percent of participants expressed uncertainty on the matter. Notably, the rejection of the presidential immunity argument transcends partisan lines, as observed by the breakdown of responses across political affiliations.

 

Even among Republicans, a plurality of 48 percent reject the notion of presidential immunity, while only 24 percent support it. A notable 27 percent of Republicans remain undecided on the issue. Meanwhile, an overwhelming majority of Democrats (92 percent) and independents (75 percent) oppose presidential immunity, with only a negligible percentage expressing support for it.

 

The upcoming Supreme Court hearing on Trump's presidential immunity claim, scheduled for April, has garnered significant attention. The case pertains to allegations by special counsel Jack Smith that the former president conspired to overturn the results of the 2020 election. With the Supreme Court's decision expected by the end of June, legal experts anticipate a rejection of Trump's immunity argument, which would pave the way for Smith's prosecution to proceed.

 

Both Trump's trial judge and a three-judge panel on the District of Columbia Circuit Court of Appeals have already rebuffed the presidential immunity argument, emphasizing that former presidents should not be shielded from criminal prosecution indefinitely. The D.C. Circuit panel's decision underscored that Trump, now a private citizen, should be subject to the same legal scrutiny as any other individual accused of criminal offenses.

 

As the legal battle unfolds, the sentiment reflected in the Politico poll underscores a widespread belief among Americans that no individual, regardless of their previous position of power, should be above the law. The rejection of presidential immunity highlights a commitment to accountability and the principle that justice should apply equally to all citizens.

 

20.03.24

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[Chomper Higgot]

Well of course.

 

Trump and the 11% MAGA think he is above law, he told us all that with his Fifth Avenue remark.

 

 

[Skipalongcassidy]

All the haters will jump on the bandwagon and support this poll as factual and accurate... while at the same time poo poo other more accurate and reliable poles that show that joe is failing the American people... gotta love it 

[bamnutsak]

70%!

 

Wow.

 

And people say the country is divided.

 

 

QUESTION PRESENTED Whether and if so to what extent does a former President enjoy presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct alleged to involve official acts during his tenure in office. 

 

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23A745/300410/20240212154110541_2024-02-12 - US v. Trump - Application to S. Ct. for Stay of D.C. Circuit Mandate - Final With Tables and Appendix.pdf

 

 

 

 

Edited March 20 by bamnutsak

[sirineou]

1 minute ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

All the haters will jump on the bandwagon and support this poll as factual and accurate..

and all the lovers will will remain in the bandwagon they are and like everything else praise any poll that is favorable to trump and denounce any poll that are critical. 

  First of all few if any called any polls inaccurate, but we claimed that it was too early to be of any value. 

Two different things. Right or wrong we offered a reason for our opinion.

So let me ask you this , You seem to think that this poll is inaccurate, What is you reason for that opinion? 

 

[Skipalongcassidy]

15 minutes ago, sirineou said:

and all the lovers will will remain in the bandwagon they are and like everything else praise any poll that is favorable to trump and denounce any poll that are critical. 

  First of all few if any called any polls inaccurate, but we claimed that it was too early to be of any value. 

Two different things. Right or wrong we offered a reason for our opinion.

So let me ask you this , You seem to think that this poll is inaccurate, What is you reason for that opinion? 

 

Unlike you... I am on no bandwagon... I firmly believe that time will reveal the truth in all matters... I have NO fondness for trump... nor do I have any fondness for joe... that said... my trust or distrust in polling comes from the very nature of the beast... who designed the questions being asked and i what manner were they asked... a good example of this is the recent Google AI debacle... garbage in- garbage out... 

[Danderman123]

Live by the polls, die by the polls.

 

[bamnutsak]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

Live by the polls, die by the polls.

 

 

 

We've survived 289 years without debating Presidential Immunity.

 

It's baked into our DNA as U.S. Citizens. The President is not a King or Queen. The President is not above the Law.

 

I'm shocked the figure isn't closer to 90%.

 

 

The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government.

 

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp

 

 

[Danderman123]

There isn't a lot of support for presidential immunity among the Trump fans here - they seem to understand that it's just a delay tactic by Trump's lawyers.

 

The Trump fans don't have much to say here, so they just whine about Biden.

[sirineou]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Unlike you... I am on no bandwagon... I firmly believe that time will reveal the truth in all matters...

You are indeed a supperior person. 

 

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

that said... my trust or distrust in polling comes from the very nature of the beast... who designed the questions being asked and i what manner were they asked...

So you think a majority of Americans supports presidential immunity from prosecution. But this can not be accomplished by polls and is instead accomplished by what? 

[bamnutsak]

7 minutes ago, sirineou said:

But this can not be accomplished by polls and is instead accomplished by what? 

 

Divining Rod would be my guess.

 

 

[Berkshire]

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

According to the poll results, a striking 70 percent of respondents dismiss Trump's assertion of presidential immunity, with only a mere 11 percent supporting the idea.

I'm just amazed that there's even 11% of Americans who think the POTUS should have absolute immunity.  What the freak is wrong with these people? 

[spidermike007]

I'm innocent, I'm always innocent, well maybe I'm guilty, but it doesn't matter I'm immune. I'm immune to anything, remember what I said about 5th Avenue, that applies to anything. I can get away with anything, so why are they even trying to charge me? I'm Donald, you can't charge Donald. 

[Walker88]

17 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

All the haters will jump on the bandwagon and support this poll as factual and accurate... while at the same time poo poo other more accurate and reliable poles that show that joe is failing the American people... gotta love it 

How is Joe failing?

 

Speaking of haters.....

 

You prefer unemployment, like the 6.8% trump left?

You prefer Recession like trump left, rather than the most robust growth since the late 1990s?

You prefer key microchips be made in Taiwan, China and South Korea?

You like dangerous roads, bridges and a power grid that makes North Korea look good?

You would prefer a tumbling 401K (if you have any money)?

 

If you are going to bring up the border, consider who blocked the most comprehensive Immigration reform ever, written largely by a conservative Republican. (Hint: it wasn't Joe)

 

The latest polls released yesterday show Biden in the lead again, though pools in March mean little.

 

trump is likely to be in jail come 2025, and almost surely broke.

[Walker88]

This immunity question is a lose-lose for trump.

 

If struck down, trump will have to face the music and be tried for all his crimes.

 

If upheld, Biden can have trump killed.

[G_Money]

57 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

How is Joe failing?

 

Speaking of haters.....

 

You prefer unemployment, like the 6.8% trump left?

You prefer Recession like trump left, rather than the most robust growth since the late 1990s?

You prefer key microchips be made in Taiwan, China and South Korea?

You like dangerous roads, bridges and a power grid that makes North Korea look good?

You would prefer a tumbling 401K (if you have any money)?

 

If you are going to bring up the border, consider who blocked the most comprehensive Immigration reform ever, written largely by a conservative Republican. (Hint: it wasn't Joe)

 

The latest polls released yesterday show Biden in the lead again, though pools in March mean little.

 

trump is likely to be in jail come 2025, and almost surely broke.

You’re even more delusional than one could ever imagine,

 

Complete BS with nothing back it up.

 

As much as I despise the CIA, I can completely understand you’re no longer part of that organization.

 

They dumped you.  Without a doubt.

 

If there are more like you in the CIA, a complete overhaul is long overdue.

[Skipalongcassidy]

20 hours ago, sirineou said:

You are indeed a supperior person. 

 

Thank you but you dont have to bow down... "superior"

[Skipalongcassidy]

5 hours ago, Walker88 said:

How is Joe failing?

See... I told you all that they refuse to acknowledge the current polling that shows joe's ratings are all time lowest of any in the history of taking polls.

[AustinRacing]

It saddens me to realise America is on a downhill spiral when a person like him with proven criminal charges is popular enough to become president again. 

[sirineou]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Thank you but you dont have to bow down... "superior"

Your observation , and spelling skills are also very superior, 

Your mom must be very proud of you

[Skipalongcassidy]

37 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Your observation , and spelling skills are also very superior, 

Your mom must be very proud of you

Don't be such an ass... your mother obviously didn't love you...555

[sirineou]

26 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Don't be such an ass... your mother obviously didn't love you...555

My moma alway said I was special, And my teachers loved me so much the often kept me in they classes an extra year. 

[Tug]

8 hours ago, Walker88 said:

This immunity question is a lose-lose for trump.

 

If struck down, trump will have to face the music and be tried for all his crimes.

 

If upheld, Biden can have trump killed.

Ether or works for me ……tho the thought of trump rotting in the pen does tend to have a pleasant feeling to it

[Trippy]

It's sad that out of over 350 million people in the US, our choices are Trump or Kamala. 

[Eric Loh]

1 minute ago, Trippy said:

It's sad that out of over 350 million people in the US, our choices are Trump or Kamala. 

Fascism vs democracy, cognitive impaired madman vs sanity, immoral vs decency. Seem a simple choice to me. 

[Trippy]

4 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Fascism vs democracy, cognitive impaired madman vs sanity, immoral vs decency. Seem a simple choice to me. 

Yes Kamala is a danger to the Republic, I agree.

Edited March 21 by Trippy

[Skeptic7]

And so will the Supreme Court, reject that stupid Trumpian BS claim...and thusly setting the law straight for all future Presidents. 

[Skipalongcassidy]

20 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Fascism vs democracy, cognitive impaired madman vs sanity, immoral vs decency. Seem a simple choice to me. 

The fact that you think kamala is sane and decent is hilarious in and of itself... simple choices are for the simple minded

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

The fact that you think kamala is sane and decent is hilarious in and of itself... simple choices are for the simple minded

I'm going to go with the simple minded gal and you can go along with the criminal seeking revenge. ok?