How Much of a trumper are You?

[Excogitator]

1 minute ago, tmax said:

How did he do absolutely nothing? The funding for the Border wall was not granted so there was nothing he could do.  After January 2019 the Remain in Mexico policy was added. When Trump left office illegal alien encounters were at all time low. Illegal immigration is peaking under Biden. Remain in Mexico makes more sense than catch and release

Pay attention. I didn't say he did nothing at all. I said "During his four years he accomplished absolutely nothing in terms of reducing illegal immigration into the US."  Which is true, since illegal imigration actually increased during his term. He did manage to decrease legal immigration though, and can probably thank the travel restrictions during covid for much of that.. If reducing legal immigration into a nation of immigrants is a goal in itself is another question.. About your border wall, he promised that Mexico would pay for it. What happened to that?

[tmax]

If you are right that he did "nothing in terms of reducing illegal immigration to the US", which is debatable,  then therefore Biden has been actively increasing illegal immigration which is unacceptable and majority Americans agree. 

 

19 minutes ago, Excogitator said:

If reducing legal immigration into a nation of immigrants is a goal in itself is another question..

Pay attention, I said illegal immigrants not legal immigration. 

 

21 minutes ago, Excogitator said:

About your border wall, he promised that Mexico would pay for it. What happened to that?

The funding was not granted unfortunately, I don't think anyone expected Mexico to pay for that

 

[Excogitator]

35 minutes ago, tmax said:

If you are right that he did "nothing in terms of reducing illegal immigration to the US", which is debatable,  then therefore Biden has been actively increasing illegal immigration which is unacceptable and majority Americans agree. 

 

Pay attention, I said illegal immigrants not legal immigration. 

 

The funding was not granted unfortunately, I don't think anyone expected Mexico to pay for that

 

My comment about legal immigration was a rethorical question..

 

We can agree, that something needs to be done about the border situation, and you would hope Congress could be above partisan politics and personal ambition and come together to find a solution, but there is a slim chance for that, as they are more toxic and divided than ever.. 

 

My point is however, Trump already had 4 years to fix the problem, he didnt fix it, thus he has already proven he is not the man for the job.

[AreYouGerman]

11 minutes ago, Excogitator said:

My point is however, Trump already had 4 years to fix the problem, he didnt fix it, thus he has already proven he is not the man for the job.

 

He had made so bad staff choice who all worked against him. And the entire Washington bureaucracy was working against him as well.

 

I can remember the time under Trump vs. now. I would say, Trump is the last hope for the world to save us from eternal darkness.

 

Trump's biggest flaw is, he's a total Zionist.

[herfiehandbag]

22 hours ago, KhunLA said:

biden either dead or Amendment 25 invoked.

 

harris presidency ... seriously, you have to ask ?

A Harris Presidency would be intolerable - just imagine, colour, a woman, liberal views, people having voted for her (on Bidens ticket, but in the clear knowledge that she was in the frame). The Trumpofascists would have a meltdown with or without the orange <deleted> gibbon still being around!

Edited April 10 by herfiehandbag

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

He had made so bad staff choice who all worked against him. And the entire Washington bureaucracy was working against him as well.

 

I can remember the time under Trump vs. now. I would say, Trump is the last hope for the world to save us from eternal darkness.

 

Trump's biggest flaw is, he's a total Zionist.

You must really miss Uncle Adolf and his gang!

[Middle Aged Grouch]

I was no Trumper.

 

But on seeing the disaster with Biden and how his rogue cronies are creating wars and leading to global economic doom, I think that Trump was not that bad after all. And of course I rather see Trump with his hottie wife then see Biden slipping on stairs and mistaking names and countries in public.

[AreYouGerman]

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

You must really miss Uncle Adolf and his gang!

 

Yes.

[Dan747]

[JensenZ]

I'm not a US citizen, so I have no skin in the game, but I hope Trump wins. The never-Trumpers provide endless entertainment.

Edited April 10 by JensenZ

[Yellowtail]

On 4/9/2024 at 8:02 PM, Excogitator said:

 

Could those same people name a single (factual) thing Biden had done that they did not approve of?

 

If you listen to fox, newsmax and other rightwing propaganda-outlets, they love to criticise Biden, but there is very little of substance or even truth to their claims, and it mostly boils down to slander, lies and insults..

Meanwhile, in the realm of reality, we have consistently strong jobs growth, rising GDP, and markets at record highs. They have even managed to tame inflation, which has been trending down for over a year now. Pray tell, what is so wrong with that?

Rut-row..."Consumer prices rose 3.5% in March compared to a year ago, accelerating markedly from the previous month and reversing some of the progress achieved in a two-year fight to cool inflation, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data showed."

 

Inflation surged higher in March, reversing some progress made in cooling prices (msn.com)

 

 

[AreYouGerman]

14 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

I'm not a US citizen, so I have no skin in the game, but I hope Trump wins. The never-Trumpers provide endless entertainment.

 

I assume you are living in isolation. US - the mad brute on it's last breath - and their masters currently forcing global wars on us everywhere. America First politic means no wars in former Soviet republics anymore and no mass Arab immigration where nobody will remember or forced to forget why they are arriving in the EU to live on welfare in the first place.

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, Excogitator said:

My comment about legal immigration was a rethorical question..

 

We can agree, that something needs to be done about the border situation, and you would hope Congress could be above partisan politics and personal ambition and come together to find a solution, but there is a slim chance for that, as they are more toxic and divided than ever.. 

 

My point is however, Trump already had 4 years to fix the problem, he didnt fix it, thus he has already proven he is not the man for the job.

The border was largely under control when Trump left office. The Biden administration opened the borders, and has let in millions of illegal aliens intentionally. Here's just one example: 

The Florida Gateway: Data Shows Most Migrant Flights Landing in Gov. DeSantis’s Sunshine State (cis.org)

 

[JensenZ]

45 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

I assume you are living in isolation. US - the mad brute on it's last breath - and their masters currently forcing global wars on us everywhere. America First politic means no wars in former Soviet republics anymore and no mass Arab immigration where nobody will remember or forced to forget why they are arriving in the EU to live on welfare in the first place.

Dude - I'm living in Thailand and don't give a sh*t - nothing is going to change, so just relax and watch the show.

[AreYouGerman]

Just now, JensenZ said:

Dude - I'm living in Thailand and don't give a sh*t - nothing is going to change, so just relax and watch the show.

 

Oh, nothing changes for you? Oh, right, you're living in isolation, as I said.

 

I am paying triple the amount for electricity in Germany because the US in an act of war attacked our pipeline and decided to go all in vs. Russia. We got 1 million Ukrainians living on welfare (additionally to the 5 million muslims) in Germany while the Germans who work get taxed by 50%. Soon, the muslims from Gaza who don't want to get slaughtered will arrive in Germany as well. Thank you, everybody!

 

 

[Excogitator]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Rut-row..."Consumer prices rose 3.5% in March compared to a year ago, accelerating markedly from the previous month and reversing some of the progress achieved in a two-year fight to cool inflation, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data showed."

 

Inflation surged higher in March, reversing some progress made in cooling prices (msn.com)

 

 

Grasping at straws are we?

It was expected to come in at 3.4, it came in at 3.5..

[Excogitator]

2 hours ago, Dan747 said:

You must be living inside a rightwing alternative-reality bubble..

 

no wars? Middle East peace?

Heard about Afghanistan?

Heard about Syria?

Heard about Yemen..?

 

Strong American economy?

Under trump the economy lost 2.9 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased to 6.3%. The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million. The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.

S&P500 on Trumps last day: 3799

S&P500 today: 5160 (35% higher!)

 

No inflation?

There has always been inflation, ever since the monetary system was invented..

 

Growing 401ks? Market profits?

Higher under Biden.

 

Low gas prices?

They would still have been low if not Trumps paymaster Putin had gone on a genocidal rampage in Ukraine..

 

A secure oil reserve?

It's still secure. What are you even talking about?

 

Lower taxes?

Yeah, for the billionaires..

 

A strong dollar?

It's still historically strong.

Edited April 10 by Excogitator

[fusion58]

On 4/8/2024 at 1:16 PM, James105 said:

People will vote for Trump as he is not Biden...

 

Was that one in the self-assessment? If not, then it should be.

[thaibeachlovers]

Given the OP's opinion of Trump, is this some sort of joke thread, or baiting, or suchlike? I doubt the OP is looking for something to change his mind about Trump over.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Excogitator said:

You must be living inside a rightwing alternative-reality bubble..

 

no wars? Middle East peace?

Heard about Afghanistan?

Heard about Syria?

Heard about Yemen..?

 

Strong American economy?

Under trump the economy lost 2.9 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased to 6.3%. The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million. The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.

S&P500 on Trumps last day: 3799

S&P500 today: 5160 (35% higher!)

 

No inflation?

There has always been inflation, ever since the monetary system was invented..

 

Growing 401ks? Market profits?

Higher under Biden.

 

Low gas prices?

They would still have been low if not Trumps paymaster Putin had gone on a genocidal rampage in Ukraine..

 

A secure oil reserve?

It's still secure. What are you even talking about?

 

Lower taxes?

Yeah, for the billionaires..

 

A strong dollar?

It's still historically strong.

LOL, LOL, LOL.

 

no wars? Middle East peace?

Heard about Afghanistan?

Heard about Syria?

Heard about Yemen..?

 

None of the above started by Trump, and he started the procedure to end Agfghan conflict.

 

Under trump the economy lost 2.9 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased to 6.3%.

 

Deliberately ignoring covid, are you?

 

Low gas prices?

They would still have been low if not Trumps paymaster Putin had gone on a genocidal rampage in Ukraine.

 

Trump wasn't in charge when that happened. That one is entirely down to your hero, Biden.

 

[Excogitator]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL, LOL, LOL.

 

no wars? Middle East peace?

Heard about Afghanistan?

Heard about Syria?

Heard about Yemen..?

 

None of the above started by Trump, and he started the procedure to end Agfghan conflict.

 

Under trump the economy lost 2.9 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased to 6.3%.

 

Deliberately ignoring covid, are you?

 

Low gas prices?

They would still have been low if not Trumps paymaster Putin had gone on a genocidal rampage in Ukraine.

 

Trump wasn't in charge when that happened. That one is entirely down to your hero, Biden.

 

Ridiculous..

Biden hasn't started any wars either.

Biden had to deal with covid too, and all its consequences.

Putin invaded Ukraine, not Biden...

[thaibeachlovers]

9 minutes ago, Excogitator said:

Ridiculous..

Biden hasn't started any wars either.

Biden had to deal with covid too, and all its consequences.

Putin invaded Ukraine, not Biden...

I'll put this on here so you know who did.

 

[Excogitator]

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'll put this on here so you know who did.

 

Okay, bar is closed, go home now..

[charleskerins]

18 hours ago, tmax said:

 

Criticizing Biden for completely <deleted> up the border is not "slander, lies, and insults" it's simply facts. We have random people from South American, Africa, China, and the Middle East invading the southern border. No one knows who these people even are and Biden is doing nothing but give them free stuff and bus them to NYC. This is why Trump is going to win in 2024.

 

 

criticism is not a fact it is an opinion     the Capitol was invaded on 1/6/24      the president was right down the street what did he to to protect it -nothing      that's a fact

[charleskerins]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL, LOL, LOL.

 

no wars? Middle East peace?

Heard about Afghanistan?

Heard about Syria?

Heard about Yemen..?

 

None of the above started by Trump, and he started the procedure to end Agfghan conflict.

 

Under trump the economy lost 2.9 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased to 6.3%.

 

Deliberately ignoring covid, are you?

 

Low gas prices?

They would still have been low if not Trumps paymaster Putin had gone on a genocidal rampage in Ukraine.

 

Trump wasn't in charge when that happened. That one is entirely down to your hero, Biden.

 

so if there is a war somewhere and Biden is President it's on him (no American troops involved) but if there was a war when the orange one was president with American troops involved doesn't count          

 

yes Covid   great leaders handle crises     poor leaders whine and lie     pathetic yet consistent

[charleskerins]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given the OP's opinion of Trump, is this some sort of joke thread, or baiting, or suchlike? I doubt the OP is looking for something to change his mind about Trump over.

Change his mind? He's pointing out how illogical and misinformed the orange ones followers are.

[charleskerins]

11 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The border was largely under control when Trump left office. The Biden administration opened the borders, and has let in millions of illegal aliens intentionally. Here's just one example: 

The Florida Gateway: Data Shows Most Migrant Flights Landing in Gov. DeSantis’s Sunshine State (cis.org)

 

"largely under control"  absolute bull<deleted>    he couldn't even protect the Capitol when it was invaded

[n00dle]

Who gives a <deleted>. 

 

America is <deleted>.

[Felton Jarvis]

I vote a straight Democrat ticket. No one named Trump will EVER get my vote.

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, Excogitator said:

 

 

 

 

Low gas prices?

They would still have been low if not Trumps paymaster Putin had gone on a genocidal rampage in Ukraine..

 

 

 

 

how has Putin effected US petrol prices?