BREAKING NEWS! Iran potentially triggers World War 3

[ThailandRyan]

6 hours ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

God also concluded their religion and then, well the rest is kinda history. 'God's chosen people', the Israelites and today's Jews are not the same in the eye of God. But I get where this is coming from, for Israel committing genocide against the Amalek is their 'God given' right.

Had they done as told, would we even be in the situation we are in today.

[rabas]

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

DUH!

Yes I know about the drone strike that took out the commander, and it's not the same one. I did say that it's too early for a link and I only heard in on Al Jazeera as breaking news.

 

Here you go.

 

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2024/04/16/israeli-army-says-two-armed-drones-exploded-after-entering-from-lebanon-

The Israeli local regional council said that three people were wounded in the explosion.
No air raid sirens were heard at the time of the incident.

 

I googled "drones from Lebanon strike Israel" and got 100s of hits for Israel drones take out 2 Hezbollah commanders in Lebanon. Seems the N. Israeli strike got overshadowed.  

 

I did see a Times of Israel story "2 Hezbollah commanders killed in IDF strikes as attack drones injure 3 in north".  So the stories seem simultaneous. 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

15 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

I googled "drones from Lebanon strike Israel" and got 100s of hits for Israel drones take out 2 Hezbollah commanders in Lebanon. Seems the N. Israeli strike got overshadowed.  

 

I did see a Times of Israel story "2 Hezbollah commanders killed in IDF strikes as attack drones injure 3 in north".  So the stories seem simultaneous. 

 

Thanks for getting back to me on that. It's not often that that happens.

[Bkk Brian]

The Iranians opinion on this?

 

"a significant proportion of Iranians oppose what they see as the reckless adventurism of the country's elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), which fired more than 300 drones and missiles on Saturday night."

 

Iranians on edge as leaders say 'Tel Aviv is our battleground'

In a letter sent to BBC Persian, a long list of Iranian activists both inside the country and abroad criticised the IRGC's actions and saying "No to warmongering!"

Many Iranians also see the Iran-Israel confrontation now emerging from the shadows as being orchestrated by the Iranian government rather than reflective of the will of the Iranian people.

This perception is underscored by a heavy police presence on the streets of Tehran - ostensibly about enforcing strict Islamic dress codes requiring women to cover their hair but which many suspect is mainly about crushing any possible protests.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68823348

[Bkk Brian]

Speaking out and writing about Iran and its policies can land you in hospital as this London Journalist learnt the hard way.

 

Stabbed Iran International journalist Pouria Zeraati 'feeling much better'

The Iran International journalist stabbed in London has told the BBC he is "feeling much better".

Pouria Zeraati is now back on screen at the London-based Iranian outlet after the stabbing last month.

He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme he was stabbed by two men as he approached his car.

Mr Zeraati also said he was in favour of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) being proscribed as a terrorist organisation in the UK.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68824832

 

 

[Rampant Rabbit]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I didn't even mention religion, but you managed to deflect it to religion,

its  ALL  about religion 100%

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

its  ALL  about religion 100%

In your opinion.

I don't know enough about Judaism to know if their religion allows for the killing of innocents and mass starvation etc.

I'm certain that western leaders supporting israel are not abiding by Christian beliefs.

I know that some people use Islam to justify their terrorism, but IMO that is not part of Islam and it's like the inquisition using Christianity to do terrible things that were completely against Christianity.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Oh, I thought that was me. Never mind, but if you said that about me I'd be reporting you for lying about another poster.

 

Well, I didn’t say it about you did I ?

 

However, thanks for letting me know that you think you are the forums number one antisemite; would never have assumed that from your well balanced and impartial commenting  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

Thank you Presidents Obama and Biden, 

[transam]

14 hours ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

The Jewish state was attacking Iranian assets for decades, it's proxies, military personal, military installations, assassinations, Iranian scientists, and so on. It was always tit for tat, a shadow war. What did change recently?

Nothing, Iran is still funding terrorism, it's what the regime does, which is sad for the Iranian people.............🤔

[Bkk Brian]

Iranian-American lawyer blasts supporters of Islamic regime calling for war with Israel: ‘We want peace’

An Iranian-American lawyer and popular TikToker is bashing Iran and its clueless defenders clamoring for war with Israel — arguing everyday Iranians know what ruthless Tehran is really like and begging for peace. 

“In what capacity have you distorted the story to make the Islamic Republic the victim?” Elica Le Bon, a British-born, American-educated lawyer, incredulously asks “woke’’ Iran sympathizers in the powerful anti-war TikTok video Sunday. “When we were screaming that they were killing Iranian women for not wearing a hijab, where were you?” Le Bon demands to know in the video, which has gone viral with more than 1 million views. “When they were lynching Iranian men from cranes for protesting, where were you? When we were explaining that it’s a terrorist occupying force, where were you?” said the lawyer, who has 300,000 followers. “But all of a sudden everyone’s graduated from Instagram school of law to say that it’s a violation of international law and Iran has the right to defend itself,” she seethed.

https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/world-news/iranian-american-lawyer-blasts-supporters-of-islamic-regime-calling-for-war-with-israel-we-want-peace

 

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1780181543429734444

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Iranian-American lawyer blasts supporters of Islamic regime calling for war with Israel: ‘We want peace’

An Iranian-American lawyer and popular TikToker is bashing Iran and its clueless defenders clamoring for war with Israel — arguing everyday Iranians know what ruthless Tehran is really like and begging for peace. 

“In what capacity have you distorted the story to make the Islamic Republic the victim?” Elica Le Bon, a British-born, American-educated lawyer, incredulously asks “woke’’ Iran sympathizers in the powerful anti-war TikTok video Sunday. “When we were screaming that they were killing Iranian women for not wearing a hijab, where were you?” Le Bon demands to know in the video, which has gone viral with more than 1 million views. “When they were lynching Iranian men from cranes for protesting, where were you? When we were explaining that it’s a terrorist occupying force, where were you?” said the lawyer, who has 300,000 followers. “But all of a sudden everyone’s graduated from Instagram school of law to say that it’s a violation of international law and Iran has the right to defend itself,” she seethed.

https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/world-news/iranian-american-lawyer-blasts-supporters-of-islamic-regime-calling-for-war-with-israel-we-want-peace

 

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1780181543429734444

 

 

There is a link to her speaking on X, posted by Wobblybob back on page 20 ..... intelligent, articulate, young and female; everything the islamists and their supporters on here despise 

 

[xenophon]

5 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

its  ALL  about religion 100%

Yes unfortunately that is correct. Religion is at the core of tribalism. Makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. Using fairy tales and fantasies to justify slaughter. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

42 minutes ago, xenophon said:

Yes unfortunately that is correct. Religion is at the core of tribalism. Makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. Using fairy tales and fantasies to justify slaughter. 

 

Indeed, but there is only one religion that is the problem; there is only one religion that is intolerant of every other religion in the world. There is only one religion that demands that every non-adherent to it in the world, converts to its misogynistic, homophobic, medieval culture; there is only one religion that immediately responds with savage violence if it is opposed, or even questioned. There is only one religion that is the greatest threat to civilisation as we know it ........ religion is indeed a problem 

 

 

[Rimmer]

A post linking to a questionable source has been removed
 

 

 

[AreYouGerman]

14 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can you prove they are not true? I doubt it.

Even if it was 50% less, that's thousands too many.

 

We can also look what the Jewish state themselves tell about how many they are killing.

 

IDF officials stated that they are killing 2 civilians for every 1 Hamas fighter. And according to the Jewish state they have killed 13,000 Hamas, so according to their calculation they murdered at least 26,000 civilians.

 

Their evil deeds know no boundaries.

 

Edited April 17 by AreYouGerman

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

We can also look what the Jewish state themselves tell about how many they are killing.

 

IDF officials stated that they are killing 2 civilians for every 1 Hamas fighter. And according to the Jewish state they have killed 13,000 Hamas, so according to their calculation they murdered at least 26,000 civilians.

 

Seems low if we look at the destruction and how they are constantly murdering journalists and people trying to help.

No they've not murdered 26,000 people. 

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

17 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

The Taliban doesn't have children transgender on hormone blockers and 18 year old girls becoming prostitutes by starting an OnlyFans and a diminishing population rate.

 

Indeed they don’t; however, what they do have instead, is the female genital mutilation of 10 year old children, 60 year old paedophiles uncles, marrying their 12 year old nieces, usually 2 or 3 of them to ensure conception after they have raped them; oh, and they also have that charming, progressive act they call honour killing, whereby a father beheads his teenage daughter for choosing the wrong boyfriend ….. it is hardly surprising to learn the the Taliban are right up your Strasse.

 

 

[AreYouGerman]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

No they've not murdered 26,000 people.

 

Yeah, seems very low regarding how they are just killing every journalist (97 dead journalists already, it seems they are targeted on purpose) and the people trying to help, like the Kitchen Soup guys who were murdered on purpose.

 

"Israel military says 2 civilians killed for every Hamas militant is a ‘tremendously positive"

 

I wouldn't call CNN credible though, but for this purpose it will do. I wanted to be careful as it seems only sources with 'beautiful' girls are allowed.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/05/middleeast/israel-hamas-military-civilian-ratio-killed-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-officials-2-civilian-deaths-for-every-1-hamas-fighter-killed-in-gaza/

 

 

[AreYouGerman]

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Indeed they don’t; however, what they do have instead, is the female genital mutilation of 10 year old children, 60 year old paedophiles uncles, marrying their 12 year old nieces, usually 2 or 3 of them to ensure conception after they have raped them; oh, and they also have that charming, progressive act they call honour killing, whereby a father beheads his teenage daughter for choosing the wrong boyfriend ….. it is hardly surprising to learn the the Taliban are right up your Strasse.

 

 

 

No.

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, AreYouGerman said:

 

Yeah, seems very low regarding how they are just killing every journalist (97 dead journalists already, it seems they are targeted on purpose) and the people trying to help, like the Kitchen Soup guys who were murdered on purpose.

 

"Israel military says 2 civilians killed for every Hamas militant is a ‘tremendously positive"

 

I wouldn't call CNN credible though, but for this purpose it will do. I wanted to be careful as it seems only sources with 'beautiful' girls are allowed.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/05/middleeast/israel-hamas-military-civilian-ratio-killed-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-officials-2-civilian-deaths-for-every-1-hamas-fighter-killed-in-gaza/

 

 

You claimed they murdered 26,000 people, you are lying and now deflecting.

[Brickleberry]

10 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

its  ALL  about religion 100%

That's what some people would want you to believe.

 

Only 33% of Jews in Israel are religious. The vast majority of Israelis are not religious, and that's not even including 20% of Arab Israelis for a population total. Including Arabs, your looking at around 13%.

 

Hamas are an Islamist group - but they didn't start that way. Initially, they were a charity and were supported by the government of Israel. They have changed drastically over the decades since their formation in the late 80s, due to continued oppression.

 

The PA are Israel's lapdogs and have no legitimacy in the eyes of the Palestinian people.

 

The overwhelming majority of Palestinians prior to the war hated Hamas, and there were protests against this regime in the months prior to the war. Just over 50% of Palestinians wanted a permanent ceasefire with Israel and to have 2 states on the pre 1967 war borders.

 

This is not a religious conflict. This is about land theft, justice, the denial of basic human rights, apartheid, oppression, murder, massacres, dispossession and racism.

[AreYouGerman]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

You claimed they murdered 26,000 people, you are lying and now deflecting.

 

According to their own calculation, which is 2 murdered civilians for every 1 Hamas fighter.

 

Can you read?

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

According to their own calculation, which is 2 murdered civilians for every 1 Hamas fighter.

 

Can you read?

IHL Rule 14. You need to sort out the basics, it is NOT murder:

 

Starter for 10:

 

The Lawful Killing of Civilians Under International Humanitarian Law

https://www.e-ir.info/2022/05/27/the-lawful-killing-of-civilians-under-international-humanitarian-law/

 

[Wobblybob]

3 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

According to their own calculation, which is 2 murdered civilians for every 1 Hamas fighter.

 

Can you read?

Just to put things in perspective the Nazis killed 17 million and that just shows what a great and difficult job the Israelis are doing, I think you'll agree........or maybe not.🤔

[Yellowtail]

Has Biden gotten Bibi to surrender yet? 

[niccodemi]

Here is an article by Israeli journalist (whose sources are IDF operatives) which explains at least some of the reasons for high civilian casualties.

 

https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

[stevenl]

10 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Thank you Presidents Obama and Biden, 

Better put this on the tremendous ME peace plan that Kushner came up with, totally ignoring the Palestinians, Iran and other players.

But it did net him a sizeable financial injection.

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, niccodemi said:

Here is an article by Israeli journalist (whose sources are IDF operatives) which explains at least some of the reasons for high civilian casualties.

 

https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

False, they do not use AI as described:

 

https://twitter.com/LTCPeterLerner/status/1775632021680685528

 

Its another topic too on numbers, this is about the Iran attack on Israel

 

Hamas admits one-third of its data on Gazan deaths is ‘incomplete’

https://aseannow.com/topic/1325030-hamas-admits-one-third-of-its-data-on-gazan-deaths-is-‘incomplete’/

 

 

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