'Openly Jewish' man threatened with arrest by Police near pro-Palestine march

[Wobblybob]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

That isn't what happened at all.  They said that they thought his presence was antagonising the crowd.  Whether you think it's morally right or not, the Police have the power to arrest someone to prevent a breach of the peace.

Maybe he was wearing his kippah at a jaunty angle which as anyone knows will antagonise even the most moderate of antisemitics. 🥴🥴

[BangkokReady]

53 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Maybe he was wearing his kippah at a jaunty angle which as anyone knows will antagonise even the most moderate of antisemitics. 🥴🥴

 

Who knows?  He clearly wasn't threated with arrest for being Jewish, though.

[Wobblybob]

11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Who knows?  He clearly wasn't threated with arrest for being Jewish, though.

Why was a person going about his daily life be threatened by the once trusted Met Police with the sergeant openly stating you are obviously Jewish, is it a crime now, would you like all Jews to wear the star of David so that they are instantly recognisable, do you not fear that this road has been trodden before and we shouldn't repeat mistakes from the past! 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Are you suggesting that the 'peaceful' protesters would have attacked the Jewish man? 

No.

 

I’m stating the possible consequences not the definite consequences.

 

[BangkokReady]

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Why was a person going about his daily life be threatened by the once trusted Met Police with the sergeant openly stating you are obviously Jewish

 

The Police officer was concerned there would be a breach of the peace, and threatened arrest for this reason, not because the person was Jewish.

 

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

is it a crime now, would you like all Jews to wear the star of David so that they are instantly recognisable, do you not fear that this road has been trodden before and we shouldn't repeat mistakes from the past!

 

I've already explained why this isn't true.  🤷‍♂️

[CG1 Blue]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No.

 

I’m stating the possible consequences not the definite consequences.

 

Why would a crowd of 'peaceful' demonstrators possibly attack the Jewish man? 

[Wobblybob]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

The Police officer was concerned there would be a breach of the peace, and threatened arrest for this reason, not because the person was Jewish.

 

 

I've already explained why this isn't true.  🤷‍♂️

A breach of the peace for being Jewish, we hear you! 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Why was a person going about his daily life be threatened by the once trusted Met Police with the sergeant openly stating you are obviously Jewish, is it a crime now, would you like all Jews to wear the star of David so that they are instantly recognisable, do you not fear that this road has been trodden before and we shouldn't repeat mistakes from the past! 

More hyperbole.

 

Cautioning an individual, regardless of their race/religion that they will be arrested if they do not obey a lawful police instruction is not a threat.

 

It’s a caution, a reasonable use of authority to get the individual to obey the lawful instruction before an arrest is necessary.

 

Other hyperbole ignored.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Why would a crowd of 'peaceful' demonstrators possibly attack the Jewish man? 

Why are you asking me?

 

If the police officer believed their was a likelihood of a breach of the peace, which he clearly did, then he is bound to act to avoid that occurring.

 

The demonstration passed peacefully.

 

The activist is unharmed, safe and well; I believe that’s a good thing.

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

A breach of the peace for being Jewish,

 

 

That doesn't even make sense.  Arrest to prevent a breach of the peace, not for being Jewish.

 

2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

we hear you! 

 

It's excruciatingly clear that you don't.  🙄

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

More hyperbole.

 

Cautioning an individual, regardless of their race/religion that they will be arrested if they do not obey a lawful police instruction is not a threat.

 

It’s a caution, a reasonable use of authority to get the individual to obey the lawful instruction before an arrest is necessary.

 

Other hyperbole ignored.

Hyperbole is your word of the day and it will not work as your get out of jail for free card I'm afraid. Saying to a Jew you are openly Jewish is antisemitic how ever you care address this issue! 

[Wobblybob]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

That doesn't even make sense.  Arrest to prevent a breach of the peace, not for being Jewish.

 

 

It's excruciatingly clear that you don't.  🙄

Here we go when the argument is lost you revert to insults, try looking at what was actually said before you insult other posters. 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Hyperbole is your word of the day and it will not work as your get out of jail for free card I'm afraid. Saying to a Jew you are openly Jewish is antisemitic how ever you care address this issue! 

Hyperbole is my word of the day because there’s a lot of it about.

 

Your leap to the Star of David was an example.

 

The Police Officer was clearly concerned for the safety and well being of the activist.

 

The activist is unharmed, safe and well; I believe that’s a good thing.

[BangkokReady]

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Here we go when the argument is lost you revert to insults

 

What argument have I lost and how did I insult anyone?  The chap wasn't threatened with arrest for being Jewish.

 

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

 

try looking at what was actually said before you insult other posters. 

 

I looked at what was said, that's why what I said is correct.  

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

It makes sense to stop the guy in his tracks. Avoid a possible altercation. How many in the march are there more as anti Jew than pro Palistine?

 

It's just like football fans being segregated. 

 

It only takes one person or a small majority of idiots to start. 

 

The police took the correct decision. And, yes, I believe if a Muslim tried the same thing during a pro Isreal march, the police would do the same 

Precisely this.

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

 

A very important point that seems to have evaded most people is, that If the Met judge that the presence of a march makes the streets of London unsafe for Jews (or importantly, for any other ethnicity or demographic) then the march should not have been given permission to go ahead.

 

Would anybody suggest arresting a woman with a headscarf if she showed up near a demonstration in support of the Israeli hostages?

 

We all know the answer to that, and we all know the reason why that would never happen; well, certainly not under the present governance of the Met, and the incumbent Mayor. Appalling islamic takeover of my hometown.

 

 

[CHdiver]

The next holocaust will be lead by the leftist, wich at the same time will point to the right and yell that all evil is coming from the right side. 

[CG1 Blue]

23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why are you asking me?

 

If the police officer believed their was a likelihood of a breach of the peace, which he clearly did, then he is bound to act to avoid that occurring.

 

The demonstration passed peacefully.

 

The activist is unharmed, safe and well; I believe that’s a good thing.

So the police officer feared the mob might attack the Jewish man. In response he threatens to arrest the Jewish man and not arrest the mob that might attack him. 

Bit worrying that you think that's a fair outcome. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

3 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

The police took the correct decision. And, yes, I believe if a Muslim tried the same thing during a pro Isreal march, the police would do the same 

 

That would be the same UK police that allowed multiple muslim grooming gangs to proliferate throughout the UK, for fear of offending a vociferous minority, would it ?

 

The same UK police that allowed a baying mob of muslims to hound a teacher from Batley Grammar school out of his job and home without making one single arrest. That was 3 years ago and the teacher, his wife, and 4 young children, are still in hiding, having all been given new identities. Is this the UK police that you think would treat a muslim in the same way that they treat a jew ?

 

 

[Wobblybob]

43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Hyperbole is my word of the day because there’s a lot of it about.

 

Your leap to the Star of David was an example.

 

The Police Officer was clearly concerned for the safety and well being of the activist.

 

The activist is unharmed, safe and well; I believe that’s a good thing.

His (the officer) wording would render your excuse invalid! 

[Wobblybob]

45 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

What argument have I lost and how did I insult anyone?  The chap wasn't threatened with arrest for being Jewish.

 

 

I looked at what was said, that's why what I said is correct.  

He was threatened with arrest for openly being Jewish! 

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, Wobblybob said:

He was threatened with arrest for openly being Jewish! 

 

According to the article, he was threatened with arrest to prevent a breach of the peace, not for being Jewish.  🤷‍♂️

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

According to the article, he was threatened with arrest to prevent a breach of the peace, not for being Jewish.  🤷‍♂️

 

   He potentially breached the peace by openly looking Jewish 

[Wobblybob]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

According to the article, he was threatened with arrest to prevent a breach of the peace, not for being Jewish.  🤷‍♂️

Same difference, the breach of the peace your refer to is nonsense, how can you breach the peace by not breaking any laws. The people that were a threat were the hate marchers! 

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

He potentially breached the peace by openly looking Jewish 

 

Not according to the article.

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Same difference,

 

Not at all.

 

2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

the breach of the peace your refer to is nonsense, how can you breach the peace by not breaking any laws. The people that were a threat were the hate marchers! 

 

It's not nonsense at all.  Why not look up what breach of the peace is?  It sounds like a little research would help you out.

Edited April 20 by BangkokReady

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

Not according to the article.

 

  According to what the Policeman said to him , he looked openly Jewish and could cause other people  to get violent and breach the peace 

[BangkokReady]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

  According to what the Policeman said to him , he looked openly Jewish and could cause other people  to get violent and breach the peace 

 

Not quite:

 

"Officers informed him that his presence, being "quite openly Jewish," could potentially lead to a "breach of peace" amidst the pro-Palestinian march."

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Not quite:

 

"Officers informed him that his presence, being "quite openly Jewish," could potentially lead to a "breach of peace" amidst the pro-Palestinian march."

 

 

   Isnt that what I said ?

You said the same thing as I did , but just used different words

[Wobblybob]

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Not at all.

 

 

It's not nonsense at all.  Why not look up what breach of the peace is?  It sounds like a little research would help you out.

And a little less at being pompous would pay dividends to your cause, does your opinion only count. The police officer quite categorically stated he was openly Jewish, now is that a crime in the UK at the time of my post. The man did nothing wrong, you are confusing an unruly crowd with a peaceful citizen!