Social Media Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Thousands of flights to and from Europe have been affected by suspected Russian jamming of GPS systems, raising concerns about safety and navigation reliability. Since last August, approximately 46,000 aircraft, including those of major airlines like Ryanair, Wizz Air, British Airways, and easyJet, have reported incidents of GPS interference over the Baltic Sea. The disruption, documented by the website GPSJAM.org, primarily impacts flights in eastern Europe bordering Russia, highlighting the potential security risks posed by GPS interference. The satellite-based GPS is integral to aircraft navigation systems, and any disruption can jeopardize flight safety. In March, the UK government confirmed a GPS signal jamming incident involving an RAF plane carrying Defence Secretary Grant Shapps near the Russian Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad. Although officials downplayed the immediate safety threat, describing it as "wildly irresponsible," the incident underscores the seriousness of GPS interference. The International Air Transport Association and the EU Aviation Safety Agency have expressed growing concern over GPS jamming and spoofing, with a notable increase in reported attacks. While efforts to counter the threat are underway, the Civil Aviation Authority emphasizes that GPS jamming is often associated with military activities and may not directly target commercial aircraft. Despite reassurances from aviation authorities, airlines like Ryanair and easyJet acknowledge the challenges posed by intermittent GPS interference. Both airlines stress the presence of multiple navigation systems onboard aircraft and standard operating procedures to mitigate GPS-related issues. As concerns over GPS interference persist, the aviation industry remains vigilant in safeguarding navigation systems and ensuring the safety of passengers and crew. However, the prevalence of such disruptions underscores the need for ongoing vigilance and collaborative efforts to address the evolving threats to aviation security. 2024-04-24 Source 1 2
Popular Post retarius Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 War is ugly, but European politicians love it, especially the Brits. I see only pain in the future. We need to get rid of these warmongering scum as our leaders, if there is to be a happy life for our kids and grandkids. Vote for peacemakers not warmongers. 2 16 3 1 3 3 4
Popular Post impulse Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 (edited) 31 minutes ago, retarius said: War is ugly, but European politicians love it, especially the Brits. I see only pain in the future. We need to get rid of these warmongering scum as our leaders, if there is to be a happy life for our kids and grandkids. Vote for peacemakers not warmongers. I can't believe the way they're salivating over going on a war footing. I wish every British politician was required to visit the graveyards and tour the museums in Kanchanaburi to see what happens when you send your young men off to foreign wars. Nowadays, it'll be young men and women. Edited April 24 by impulse 1 8 2 1 4
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 12 minutes ago, impulse said: I can't believe the way they're salivating over going on a war footing. I wish every British politician was required to visit the graveyards and tour the museums in Kanchanaburi to see what happens when you send your young men off to foreign wars. Nowadays, it'll be young men and women. Oh, the WW2 Graves. A reminder of the reward of appeasement. 2 2 1 6 4
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 Oh gee wizz guys. Just because the Euro leaders send billions of taxpayer's Euros and pounds to support Ukraine, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Russians, it's just not fair that Russia wants to make life difficult for Europeans. I know, let's put some more sanctions on Putin- that'll show him who is the boss. 8 1 1 1 2
thaibeachlovers Posted April 24 Posted April 24 4 hours ago, impulse said: I can't believe the way they're salivating over going on a war footing. I haven't seen or heard anything about that, but perhaps that is because I don't listen to British news. If it's true it's disgusting, and if it happens all politicians that vote for it should have their children conscripted for the front line troops. 6 1
johng Posted April 24 Posted April 24 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: A reminder of the reward of appeasement. Can you remember who saved Europe from the "Nazis" ? 3 2 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, johng said: Can you remember who saved Europe from the "Nazis" ? It wasn’t the appeasers. 1 1 1 7 1
Popular Post johng Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I haven't seen or heard anything about that, but perhaps that is because I don't listen to British news front page of The Times today the i newspaper Daily Mail 4 1
Popular Post eisfeld Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 5 hours ago, retarius said: War is ugly, but European politicians love it, especially the Brits. I see only pain in the future. We need to get rid of these warmongering scum as our leaders, if there is to be a happy life for our kids and grandkids. Vote for peacemakers not warmongers. Ah yes it's Europes fault that Russia invaded Ukraine. Guess Ukraine was wearing a too sexy dress. Definitely not Putin and his ilk at fault. 4 1 1 2 6 2 4
Popular Post johng Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 1 minute ago, eisfeld said: Ah yes it's Europes fault that Russia invaded Ukraine. Yes it is at least partly Europe/US /NATO's fault they promised after the fall of the Berlin wall not to expand NATO further east towards the Russian border. They incited/encouraged the 2014 Maidan coup that ultimately lead up to the war ongoing today. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict 3 3 4 1 2
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 39 minutes ago, johng said: Can you remember who saved Europe from the "Nazis" ? I wasn't around at the time to "remember", but I've read up on it and Russia saved Europe at the cost of some 40 million lives. I'm not supposed to give history lessons on here, but the information is all out there. Sorry John Wayne, but you didn't save us after all. 2 2 2 3 1 2
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 24 minutes ago, johng said: Yes it is at least partly Europe/US /NATO's fault they promised after the fall of the Berlin wall not to expand NATO further east towards the Russian border. They incited/encouraged the 2014 Maidan coup that ultimately lead up to the war ongoing today. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict I doubt they will let facts get in the way of the propaganda. After all, how could the leaders justify spending billions of taxpayer's money to make arms companies rich, without a good reason. 2 2 2 1
Popular Post eisfeld Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 22 minutes ago, johng said: Yes it is at least partly Europe/US /NATO's fault they promised after the fall of the Berlin wall not to expand NATO further east towards the Russian border. They incited/encouraged the 2014 Maidan coup that ultimately lead up to the war ongoing today. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict Weird that the western people who attended the meeting disclaim any such promise was made and there is absolutely nothing in writing. Only Russia claims such a promise was made. And even if that's the case it's not a reason to invade a country and kill tens of thousands of people. There is no excuse for what Russia is doing. And it's clearly achieving even the opposite of their claimed objective. 2 1 2 3 1 2
thaibeachlovers Posted April 24 Posted April 24 38 minutes ago, johng said: front page of The Times today the i newspaper Daily Mail Thanks for that, but isn't that just to make arms companies richer? Just making more bullets and rifles for Ukraine isn't salivating to send British boys to die. I'd like to know where the extra money is going to come from- are they going to bring back rationing, make people stay home at night etc? When all is said and done, with they be able to have enough sailors to man enough ships to go rescue the Falklands again, should that be necessary; will an aircraft carrier actually move under it's own power or will tugs have to tow it; will they have any planes on board? So many questions, so few answers. 1 1 1 1
Popular Post RayC Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 59 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Oh gee wizz guys. Just because the Euro leaders send billions of taxpayer's Euros and pounds to support Ukraine, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Russians, it's just not fair that Russia wants to make life difficult for Europeans. I know, let's put some more sanctions on Putin- that'll show him who is the boss. So it's perfectly ok for Russia to interfere with aviation communication channels, thus endangering the lives of thousands of innocent civilians? 2 1 2 3 2
Popular Post Negita43 Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 (edited) 6 hours ago, retarius said: Vote for peacemakers not warmongers Didn't someone do that in 1938? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain Edited April 24 by Negita43 4
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I wasn't around at the time to "remember", but I've read up on it and Russia saved Europe at the cost of some 40 million lives. I'm not supposed to give history lessons on here, but the information is all out there. Sorry John Wayne, but you didn't save us after all. Russia were not fighting to ‘save Europe’. 1 1 3 3
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Oh gee wizz guys. Just because the Euro leaders send billions of taxpayer's Euros and pounds to support Ukraine, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Russians, Are you referring to the Russian soldiers who invaded Ukraine ? Going by your stance on Gaza , I thought that you would oppose one Country invading another 1 2 2
thaibeachlovers Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Negita43 said: Didn't someone do that in 1938? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain He probably didn't have a choice as Britain had run it's military down too much. It was only because of Churchill and his allies rearming Britain that they had an airforce capable of saving Britain from the Luftwaffe , and it only just managed to do so. Another day or two of German attacks would probably have won it for Hitler. Agreeing to sacrifice Czechoslovakia probably gave the British time to build their defenses enough to survive the Battle of Britain. 1 1 1 1
Popular Post johng Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I'd like to know where the extra money is going to come from It seems there is always enough money for war..but never enough for peace. 4 minutes ago, RayC said: So it's perfectly ok for Russia to interfere with aviation communication channels The headline does say "suspected" but I would not be surprised if the Russians are jamming or interfering with GPS signals as part of their war effort...I remember during the Gulf wars that the Americans reduced the accuracy of their civilian GPS signals in the area of conflict. Naturally Uncle Sam kept his less than 1 meter accurate signal to help bomb the Iraq's to oblivion. 2 1 1
Popular Post RayC Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I doubt they will let facts get in the way of the propaganda. After all, how could the leaders justify spending billions of taxpayer's money to make arms companies rich, without a good reason. 39 minutes ago, johng said: Yes it is at least partly Europe/US /NATO's fault they promised after the fall of the Berlin wall not to expand NATO further east towards the Russian border. They incited/encouraged the 2014 Maidan coup that ultimately lead up to the war ongoing today. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict Facts have never been a strong suite for Putin's apologists. In the article, Seamus Milne seems to think that a referendum held whilst the region was under Russian occupation (in Crimea) has some legitimacy. Yeah, right. There was no NATO promise not to expand eastwards. The Maidan coup was the culmination of an uprising against President Yanukovych, who decided to unilaterally revoke the will of the Ukrainian parliament (and people) by refusing to sign the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement. 2 1 5
Popular Post johng Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 35 minutes ago, eisfeld said: And it's clearly achieving even the opposite of their claimed objective. Yes NATO continues to expand towards Russia's borders..I wonder when Ukraine will be excepted into the club ? 3 2
johng Posted April 24 Posted April 24 13 minutes ago, RayC said: There was no NATO promise not to expand eastwards. Perhaps it was a gentleman's agreement between Gorbachev and Reagan ??? 2 1
Popular Post candide Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: I wasn't around at the time to "remember", but I've read up on it and Russia saved Europe at the cost of some 40 million lives. I'm not supposed to give history lessons on here, but the information is all out there. Sorry John Wayne, but you didn't save us after all. I wasn't around at the time either, but I've read it only happened after the alliance they had with Germany was broken when Germany invaded Russia. BRW, following your usual rationale, millions of Russian lives would have been saved if the U.S. didn't send massive military help to Russia and let Hitler conquer Russia! 😉 Edited April 24 by candide 2 3
Popular Post retarius Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 6 hours ago, retarius said: War is ugly, but European politicians love it, especially the Brits. I see only pain in the future. We need to get rid of these warmongering scum as our leaders, if there is to be a happy life for our kids and grandkids. Vote for peacemakers not warmongers. From the voting it looks like this thread is populated by warmongers (6 warmongers with a down vote) or people that support the need for war as some sort of reflexive reactive. I despise this sort of person. 2 1 1 1 1
candide Posted April 24 Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, johng said: Perhaps it was a gentleman's agreement between Gorbachev and Reagan ??? It could be. However, you seem to forget that the Soviet Union has been dissolved so there was no gentleman's agreement any more (in case there was any). The irony is that the main reason for this dissolution was the unilateral independence declared by Russia in June 1991 (6 months before) which also induced the declaration of independence of Uhraine one month later! 2
Popular Post Negita43 Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 1 hour ago, johng said: Can you remember who saved Europe from the "Nazis" ? I always thought at the beginning of the WW2 Russia and Germany had an agreement not to fight each other But then Hitler renaged on that agreement and attacked Russia. So I don't really think Russia saved Europe more like they saved themselves and Europe benefited 1 1 4
Popular Post hwas Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 6 hours ago, retarius said: War is ugly, but European politicians love it, especially the Brits. I see only pain in the future. We need to get rid of these warmongering scum as our leaders, if there is to be a happy life for our kids and grandkids. Vote for peacemakers not warmongers. UK has a long way to catch up with the Americans. If there is no war, the Americans will find a “reason” to start one 1 2 1 3
candide Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Negita43 said: I always thought at the beginning of the WW2 Russia and Germany had an agreement not to fight each other But then Hitler renaged on that agreement and attacked Russia. So I don't really think Russia saved Europe more like they saved themselves and Europe benefited And then the bad war mongering USA sent massive military help to Russia. Funny how history repeats itself! 😀 2
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