Non Immigrant O extension marriage to Thai.

[Jaunty]

A question regarding the 1 year extension. Can I use the proof of at least 40k per month instead of 400k in a bank account to apply for an extension? If so, what documents do I need to provide? I work in Thailand and have a work permit. Thanks for any feedback.

Edited May 20 by Jaunty

[DrJack54]

You would require 12 months of transfers. 

Your previous extension was based on funds in the bank? 

[bob smith]

29 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You would require 12 months of transfers. 

how would this work if a person got a job halfway through their current visa extension that was obtained doing it the 400k method?

 

obviously one wouldn't be able to provide 12 months of transfers if only actively working for 6 months at the time of applying for their new extension, would they?

 

bob.

Edited May 20 by bob smith

[DrJack54]

7 minutes ago, bob smith said:

how would this work if a person got a job halfway through their current visa extension that was obtained doing it the 400k method?

Very simple answer.

It would not work.

It requires forward planning to switch from money in bank method to income method 

[bob smith]

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Very simple answer.

It would not work 

what are you talking about?

 

someone living here on a visa extension obtained via 400K in the bank could be offered a job tomorrow with a thai company and then want to change to the income method.

 

are you saying that this is not possible?

Edited May 20 by bob smith

[bob smith]

6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

It requires forward planning to switch from money in bank method to income method 

what forward planning does it require then?

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, bob smith said:

what forward planning does it require then?

Currently I am planning to switch from money in bank method to income method. 

Granted my extension based on retirement.

My most recent (current) extension I need to maintain money in bank requirements.

At the same time from last extension started monthly transfers.

For my next extension I can show 12 monthly transfers= forward planning 

 

 

[bob smith]

9 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Currently I am planning to switch from money in bank method to income method. 

Granted my extension based on retirement.

My most recent (current) extension I need to maintain money in bank requirements.

At the same time from last extension started monthly transfers.

For my next extension I can show 12 monthly transfers= forward planning 

 

 

surely a retirement extension doesn't have the same requirements as a marriage extension tied to a work permit? i,e working here for a thai company, getting paid and paying taxes..

 

they are not one and the same.

 

bob.

Edited May 20 by bob smith

[Liquorice]

1 hour ago, bob smith said:

surely a retirement extension doesn't have the same requirements as a marriage extension tied to a work permit?

Applying for an extension based on Thai spouse and an application for a work permit are totally separate issues.

To meet the financial requirements, you must provide evidence of income of father, mother or husband who is an alien which shows that throughout a year, an average income is not less than 40,000 baht monthly. 1) A personal income tax form together with the payment slip, or, 2) Evidence showing pension - a letter of certification on deposit in the bank in Thailand and bank statement showing money transfer from overseas every month for the past 12 months.

[Liquorice]

Continued.

Or, 3) Income certification certified by the embassy or consular.

[Liquorice]

2 hours ago, bob smith said:

what forward planning does it require then?

To keep the funds in the bank until such time you have evidence of 12 months income.

[mania]

41 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

To keep the funds in the bank until such time you have evidence of 12 months income.

 

Actually you would just need proof of the 12 incoming transfers of at least 40k baht. You do not need to keep the funds in the bank until you have 12 month evidence...(If that is what your saying?) 

AFAIK it has not requirements to be held like the 400k for X amount of time.... just that you transfer in each month for living

Edited May 20 by mania

[MangoKorat]

3 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

You would require 12 months of transfers. 

Your previous extension was based on funds in the bank? 

The OP doesn's say if this is his first extension or not. It is possible that he is on a B visa and has recently married. Does he have to switch a Non O based on marriage immediately?

 

I note you say 'transfers' and I guess that's just a figure of speech but if he has 12 months proof of income (he works in Thailand) - that's the same right?

[MangoKorat]

8 minutes ago, mania said:

just that you transfer in each month for living

This man works in Thailand, he won't be transfering money in. If he was working in Thailand before he was married he will have had to earn at least 50k per month to obtain a B visa whereas for a Non O marriage based extension, he will need to show an income of 40k per month.

[Liquorice]

12 minutes ago, mania said:

Actually you would just need proof of the 12 incoming transfers of at least 40k baht. You do not need to keep the funds in the bank until you have 12 month evidence...(If that is what your saying?) 

I'm saying it's safer and wiser to keep hold of the funds until such time you meet the income requirements.

[Liquorice]

2 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

This man works in Thailand, he won't be transfering money in. If he was working in Thailand before he was married he will have had to earn at least 50k per month to obtain a B visa whereas for a Non O marriage based extension, he will need to show an income of 40k per month.

Nothing to do with a B visa.

Read the topic title.

[MangoKorat]

3 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Nothing to do with a B visa.

Read the topic title.

I have read the title.  It is entirely possible that as he is working in Thailand, this is his first application for a marriage based Non O and subsequent extension. He does not say what his current status is but he does say he's working in Thailand.

 

He could currently be on a Non B.

Edited May 20 by MangoKorat

[Liquorice]

21 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

I have read the title.  It is entirely possible that as he is working in Thailand, this is his first application for a marriage based Non O and subsequent extension. He does not say what his current status is but he does say he's working in Thailand.

 

He could currently be on a Non B.

The OP is enquiring about the financial requirements for an extension of stay based on Thai spouse having held a Non O visa.

He's asking can he use the 40K income method rather than the 400k in a Thai bank account, which I'm guessing he previously used, so no it wouldn't be his first extension application, nor is he on a Non B.

 

I have already posted the 3 options available for proof of income for an extension based on Thai spouse from Immigration orders.
You must provide evidence of income of father, mother or husband who is an alien which shows that throughout a year, an average income is not less than 40,000 baht monthly.

1) A personal income tax form together with the payment slip, or, 

2) Evidence showing pension - a letter of certification on deposit in the bank in Thailand and bank statement showing money transfer from overseas every month for the past 12 months.

3) Income certification, certified by the embassy or consular.

 

Whichever of the above 3 options requires proof covering 1 year.

Edited May 20 by Liquorice

[MangoKorat]

1 minute ago, Liquorice said:

The OP is enquiring about the financial requirements for an extension of stay based on Thai spouse having held a Non O visa.

Precisely where does he say he holds a Non O? He may well do so but equally he could be on a Non B.  What makes me think that is a possibility is that the title says - marriage to a Thai and not married to a Thai as if he is about to be married and making enquiries.

 

I note that once again you are attempting to pull a post of mine apart but in this case you are failing and doing so without any justification.

 

The man may or may not hold a Non O based on marriage, he has not given enough information for that to be 100% clear.

[Liquorice]

1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

Precisely where does he say he holds a Non O?

Non Immigrant O extension marriage to Thai.

 

2 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

He may well do so but equally he could be on a Non B. 

Then he'd be enquiring about an extension based on employment.

 

3 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

I note that once again you are attempting to pull a post of mine apart but in this case you are failing and doing so without any justification.

Once again, someone asks a simple question about apples, and you question whether he meant oranges.

Just take the opening OP at face value.

[MangoKorat]

29 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Non Immigrant O extension marriage to Thai.

 

Then he'd be enquiring about an extension based on employment.

 

Once again, someone asks a simple question about apples, and you question whether he meant oranges.

Just take the opening OP at face value.

Sorry but I do not agree but you will no doubt carry on because you have to win.

 

He would not be enquiring about an extension based on employment at all, he either is or is about to be married and may therefore asking about his position after marriage. 

 

I repeat, he may well already hold a Non O based on marriage but let's say for argument's sake that he is as I suggest he could be, currently on a Non B.  He could ask the very same questions framed in exactly the same way. 

 

Someone married or marrying a Thai citizen would not have any particular interest in simply applying for the initial Non O based on marriage - there is no need for any finacial requirement for that. What would be of interest is their position when applying for the extension - for which there are financial requirements.

 

You say take the OP on face value........... he states:

 

'A question regarding the 1 year extension. Can I use the proof of at least 40k per month instead of 400k in a bank account to apply for an extension? If so, what documents do I need to provide? I work in Thailand and have a work permit. Thanks for any feedback.'

 

I don't see any reason why those questions would be framed any differently if the person holds or is intending applying for a Non O based on marriage.  Nobody, already living and working in Thailand and married/marrying a Thai would be interested in the visa alone, they would want to know the requirements for an extension.

 

He may well already hold a marriage based Non O but I hope for your sake, he doesn't come back and state that this will be his first application - you'd be mortified.  Frankly it wouldn't bother me at all if he does already hold a Non O because I am entirely happy that my proposition of him potentially not holding one is fair - given that most people who already have a marriage based Non O, already know the financial requirements.

Edited May 20 by MangoKorat

[Liquorice]

27 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

Someone married or marrying a Thai citizen would not have any particular interest in simply applying for the initial Non O based on marriage - there is no need for any finacial requirement for that.

Wrong, except for Savannahket.

 

28 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

You say take the OP on face value........... he states:

 

'A question regarding the 1 year extension. Can I use the proof of at least 40k per month instead of 400k in a bank account to apply for an extension?

He's enquiring about 'switching' from one financial method to another, which you'd only ask if already using one method.
Otherwise, you'd enquire about all the financial methods if it was your first extension.

 

You simply read and understand the question differently to others.

[Liquorice]

49 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

I don't see any reason why those questions would be framed any differently if the person holds or is intending applying for a Non O based on marriage.  Nobody, already living and working in Thailand and married/marrying a Thai would be interested in the visa alone, they would want to know the requirements for an extension.

When did I or the OP mention applying for a Non O visa ?

And if they intend to apply for an extension based on Thai spouse, they should be interested in the type of visa they initially require.

Edited May 20 by Liquorice

[MangoKorat]

10 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Wrong, except for Savannahket.

Which is precisely why I said there is no need for any financial requirements rather than no financial requirements, I knew you'd miss the subtlety of that and have to come back at me.

 

13 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

He's enquiring about 'switching' from one financial method to another, which you'd only ask if already using one method.

Not necessarily. I'd actually think you'd know about each method if you were already using one. I do and I'm on neither.

 

14 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

You simply read and understand the question differently to others.

Yes - especially those who refer to transfers in which is specifically related to income from abroad - everyone has their own take on things.

 

Above all else, you should be aware that a far greater amount of people read these topics to gain answers for themselves rather than ask in their own right.  Amongst those might well be some that are already on a Non B and considering switching.  In which case ALL information may well be useful.  I remain of the opinion that the OP could either hold a Non B or a Non O.

[MangoKorat]

I note from taking a look at the OP's other threads, that he is in fact on a Non O based on marriage and has held a work permit for over 4 years.  In which case he should be able to produce the 12 months of income receipts and tax documents that will enable him to convert to the income method of satisfying the financial requirements for a 12 month extension.

 

OP, as you may already know, different offices (even officers) have variations in their requirements when it comes to paperwork.  My mate who is married and working in Thailand had to produce his tax documents, payslips and bank statements showing his salary going into the bank.  Then when he returned with all those, he was asked to provide a letter from the bank confirming the bank statements were true. I'm not at all sure that's the norm but as he needed the extension, he had to comply.  He also said that he noted on his first visit when he went to ask what was required that the officer was generally trying to dissuade him from converting from the 400k in the bank method - at first telling him it wasn't possible.

 

I believe that was only on his first application using the income method and could possibly have been due to an altercation he had with the officer previously, where the officer was forced to back down on something (a story in itself).  He tells me that things have got considerably easier since but be aware that you could be asked for more than you might think and could face some resistance.

[Liquorice]

3 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

I note from taking a look at the OP's other threads, that he is in fact on a Non O based on marriage and has held a work permit for over 4 years.

Finally!

[MangoKorat]

6 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Finally!

You just can't help yourself can you? 

 

I have stated many times that from his post, the OP could have been on either a Non O or a Non B.  I only found out his actual status by checking his previous posts.  I don't expect to do that normally.

[DrJack54]

13 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

  I only found out his actual status by checking his previous posts.  I don't expect to do that normally

Indeed. 

Really a thread about nothing

@Jaunty has started similar thread previously.

In this current thread has added nothing. 

No reason to keep this thread going.