koolkarl Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 58 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said: Only a small percentage of Pattaya is not like what you quote, I have lived in Pattaya 10 years, I don’t frequent any of the bar areas, it’s a great place but ruined by a small minority of uneducated low lives who frequent the bar areas. i would imagine judging by your comment you have never been, listening to bar stool talk, don’t be so judgemental unless you have actually experienced the city. Have been there twice and the second time, very reluctantly. Most of the time when there is reported violence, it comes from Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Paul KNIGHT Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) So even if in a hospital and after footage gone around the world and viral videos , the RTP state they cannot proceed until they get a formal complaint. The police are worse than the Keystone Police , whose bumbling efforts poured scorn on Law Enforcement in the USA. Now Thailand has its own version, called the Royal ( I will do nothing unless I have to ) Thai Police . Any foreigner hurt who does not immediately report the matter to the police will get NO JUSTICE !! Even if lying in hospital on life support !! Edited May 28 by Nicholas Paul KNIGHT addition and spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baipaibkk Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Here is the Video that's go around the World only watch if you are mentally stable https://beta.archivevideomirror.com/library/post/8713 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 They should not blur out women’s asses in photo. Where can I lodge my complaint? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 hours ago, Digitalbanana said: tourism impact That's usually when tourist wear impractical clothing at temples,not for murder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Tongue Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 I am confused. Isn't Pattaya is a family-friendly resort area now? That's what the mayor said! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LennyW Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, LS24 said: Again, poor logic from posters here and poor translation to english have caused people to jump to ludicrous conclusions. Clearly the police are not pursuing the fight because the alleged victims have not raised concerns. Have you never heard the statement "the victim refuses to press charges" in the west for minor altercations? The police see it as a run of the mill fight with a bit of kicking. Everyone got paid or payback and the matter is resolved unless someone makes a formal complaint. Happens in the west all the time. Now of course if there was a death or serious injury the police would investigate. Do you not see the difference in your statement? Now, if the white shirt guy is in a coma, it should be reasonably easy to identify the hospital he is in. Has any press released a hospital name? if the white shirt was dead, the embassy of his nation would need to informed. Simple freedom of information request gets that information. But has that death been reported in the press? Just idiots on social media and places like here with less than half a clue claiming hearsay and loss of translation as fact. Seriously, some regular posters have the comprehension of a child. Nobody in ICU, nobody dead, the three of them walked away from the melee under their own steam! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, HalAndLois said: I find this hard to believe. In western countries, criminal complaints are filed as The People of the State of ___ vs. Foreign British Guy or whatever. The plaintiff is the state, masquerading as "the People of the State." If in fact this is the law in Thailand, woe unto wealthy single people without relatives, because you could kill them and steal all of their stuff because there would be no one to make a complaint. It is exactly the same here in Thailand, but as yet, no complaint has been made therefore no charges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCauto Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 4 hours ago, Digitalbanana said: So video footage, witness statements, global viral news coverage about the tourism impact for the country not enough to get them going eh? And you might perhaps be under the impression that this would thereby provide the lubricant for the wheels of justice to turn? Afraid we're in Thailand - the wheels have been welded in place. The only possible outcome that would cause police to do anything about this would be for the person in the ICU to recover, make the charges, and then the men would be reluctantly arrested and charged. They would be subsequently released on bail, with an eventual notification that they should show up quietly at court. Unless the ICU fella decides he loves it here so much that he's willing to stay indefinitely and assign someone to sit daily inside the Pattaya courts, they'll whisk the lads out the back door with the case dismissed before it's even brought in front of a judge, with brown paper envelopes passing from bar to plod and all happy about the outcome. Oh, other than the poor fella in the ICU. But then again, stupid to argue bills in girly bars, only one likely result and this is it. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baipaibkk Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 20 minutes ago, IamNoone88 said: You can see nothing in the video. A useless report. https://beta.archivevideomirror.com/library/post/8713 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Just now, baipaibkk said: https://beta.archivevideomirror.com/library/post/8713 Wrong video, there is a full 5 minute length video which starts in the bar and ends with the kick in the head, but not allowed to post it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baipaibkk Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 22 minutes ago, LennyW said: Wrong video, there is a full 5 minute length video which starts in the bar and ends with the kick in the head, but not allowed to post it here. can you send me the link? I Have found it. Thanks Edited May 28 by baipaibkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Unfortunately, nothing can happen unless someone makes a complaint. This is the law in Thailand. Looks like these thugs will walk, and we know what happens then... they will be free to hurt and probably kill someone else in the future. Yeah probably kill those who refused to pay their bills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, Jethro27 said: So if a guy steals a car and is view on cctv do we wait for the car to make a complaint. I think not The onus is on the owner of the car making a theft report or an investigating officer IO being assigned by his superior after the cctv was viewed for the case to become ‘alive’. This being Thailand , it depends upon how much damage is done to pattaya’s reputation as a family resort city. Better to just let any red light night club brawl died down quietly than to prolong it in the public’s eye. The mayor may not be pleased. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Unfortunately, nothing can happen unless someone makes a complaint. This is the law in Thailand. Looks like these thugs will walk, and we know what happens then... they will be free to hurt and probably kill someone else in the future. You are misinformed. In cases where the person can not file an official complaint (eg.: death of the victim), the court can act on their behalf trough the public prosecutor. https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Public_Prosecution_Institution_and_Public_Prosecutors_Act,_2553_BE Section 14 Edited May 28 by Confuscious Link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampson Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, wensiensheng said: Once out of intensive care, that’s probably a good idea. For one of them anyway. My understanding is that, contrary to reports, they got up and walked away. Is there anything from a reliable source that says otherwise? Just to be absolutely clear, I think the attack is sickening but these guys would be best to leave it at that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdongrb Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Here's what I do: Pay each and every time I order drink.... Never have a bill..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, Jiggo said: 3 hours ago, Danderman123 said: If they are smart, they have left the country already. Quite hard to do when in ICU.... Not if being in ICU is just a rumour, started by hearsay and, so far, unconfirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetops Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 minutes ago, sampson said: Is there anything from a reliable source that says otherwise? No, there isn't. It's mentioned on the previous page that video exists of them leaving the scene and reportedly later on crossing Pattaya Klang under their own steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, wensiensheng said: Once out of intensive care, that’s probably a good idea. For one of them anyway. Where is he in ICU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Went there once with a couple of mates, the music was so loud we didn't even finish our beer before check binning and leaving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, wwest5829 said: I did watch the video. Over the top response by the guards. Here’s the thing about Thai law, evidently. Need to have the offended party bring a complaint against someone. OK, I can understand this although … I come from a heritage where if this had so publicly taken place, the legal system would move to arrest and prosecute the perps in the name of the citizenry. The thought being that the disturbance and affront was made to all citizens in an orderly society. I think a bit of irony as many of us feel such an action as done here certainly has caused harm to the country’s reputation and citizens of Thailand. One might even say the actions taken reflect on the head of the country … an insult under Thai law? And if the victim is dead with no relatives to complain? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helloagain Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Here we go again Thailands number 1 sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, JCauto said: The only possible outcome that would cause police to do anything about this would be for the person in the ICU to recover, make the charges No one is in ICU, they all walked away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, Digitalbanana said: The clues in the op. There is a video footage of the victims. And....where are these victims physically????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 23 minutes ago, sampson said: My understanding is that, contrary to reports, they got up and walked away. Your understanding is confirmed by the video of them walking away on this page of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 9 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: No one is in ICU, they all walked away. The video shows the Thai security guys walking away, not the victims. The quotation on the first page of the thread appears to quote the Webfact that provided the initial story. Perhaps it was written originally then edited out after not being confirmed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetops Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 minutes ago, JCauto said: The video shows the Thai security guys walking away, not the victims. The quotation on the first page of the thread appears to quote the Webfact that provided the initial story. Perhaps it was written originally then edited out after not being confirmed? The video in question was linked to by LennyW on this page and shows the 3 guys leaving the scene. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LennyW Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 4 minutes ago, JCauto said: The video shows the Thai security guys walking away, not the victims. The quotation on the first page of the thread appears to quote the Webfact that provided the initial story. Perhaps it was written originally then edited out after not being confirmed? Clearly show both parties walking away. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 5 minutes ago, JCauto said: 16 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: No one is in ICU, they all walked away. The video shows the Thai security guys walking away, not the victims. The Reddit video shows the three British clowns walking away. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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