5 year multiple entry DTV visa (Destination Thailand) from 2024-xx-xx

[Rob Browder]

13 hours ago, Dart12 said:

Only reason I've found to go to retirement quickly is the possibility of the base number requirement in the bank increase and getting grandfathered in.  

Anyone know how often they do this increase?  last was 2004 I researched, from 400k to 800k

There is no way to predict any increase or grandfathering. 

I am sticking with my retirement extension for the fact it is has a long record of stability, relatively low-cost / low-hassle, and possible grandfathering. 

If I were under-50 I would do the DTV over any other option.

[Tim K]

On 9/20/2024 at 9:42 PM, JimmyTobacco said:

Has anyone managed to get a bank account on the DTV? I saw on Reddit that for many people it was a little problematic. I just applied for the certificate of residence here in Chiang Mai and hope to get it within a few days, so maybe that will make it easier to get an account.

Yes got one at SCB but I've shown my Yellow Book and DL.

[Tim K]

3 Friends of mine have just applied for DTV at Jakarta
1) Simple one page letter of employment from company in Russia, allowing remote work and independent choice of location. In English.
with Logo, Address, Website, TaxID, Company Reg.No at the top.

2) Simple ending balance e-statement from Russian bank, not stamped, in English.

1b) one of them used the medical route, same dental clinic I went to, in Thai.

All of them have successfully received the visa slip.

[farrol]

What, they only paid 600k IDR for the DTV? That's only 40 USD!

 

Or is it 5600k ? That would be 370 USD, more likely.

[Tim K]

5600k look closely.

[Schnitzelfritz]

Are Thai language classes from a school recognized by the Thai Ministry of Education accepted under the soft powers category? 

P.S. No, thank you I don't want to apply for an ED visa..

[Maestro]

3 hours ago, farrol said:

What, they only paid 600k IDR for the DTV? That's only 40 USD!

 

Or is it 5600k ? That would be 370 USD, more likely.

 

I read it as 5600.

[bbi1]

5 hours ago, Tim K said:

1b) one of them used the medical route, same dental clinic I went to, in Thai.

All of them have successfully received the visa slip.
 

What type of dental work was used? A simple checkup and clean or something complex?

 

What type of documentation did the dental clinic provide?

[Tim K]

6 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

What type of dental work was used? A simple checkup and clean or something complex?

 

What type of documentation did the dental clinic provide?

2 appointments: tooth removal and filling printed on a receipt for another removal.
Mine were for taking a mold and putting the dentures in.

[Tim K]

One Russian guy got Krungsri account with just DTV + DL in Hua Hin,  DL was from Krabi so he had to show them rental contract in Hua Hin, just show, no copies were made. He had CoR but bank did not take it. 

Scb's Head Office  turned his request down, just DTV is not enough apparently.

[alw22]

If anyone knows a good agent who can help open a bank account for DTV holders in Bangkok, please message me.   I was quoted 21k thb by one agent, which seems steep.

[bbi1]

52 minutes ago, alw22 said:

If anyone knows a good agent who can help open a bank account for DTV holders in Bangkok, please message me.   I was quoted 21k thb by one agent, which seems steep.

That's absolutely insane. Surely that agent is taking the piss.

[Caldera]

3 hours ago, alw22 said:

If anyone knows a good agent who can help open a bank account for DTV holders in Bangkok, please message me.   I was quoted 21k thb by one agent, which seems steep.

 

That is an outright ridiculous amount. Hopefully you can find better offers.

[Schnitzelfritz]

On 9/23/2024 at 3:11 PM, Schnitzelfritz said:

Are Thai language classes from a school recognized by the Thai Ministry of Education accepted under the soft powers category? 

P.S. No, thank you I don't want to apply for an ED visa..

I have opened a separate thread about this subject. 

 

@Moderators, I'm aware there are already several threads about the DTV but none is about getting a DTV with Thai language classes

[JimmyTobacco]

On 9/23/2024 at 4:43 PM, Tim K said:

One Russian guy got Krungsri account with just DTV + DL in Hua Hin,  DL was from Krabi so he had to show them rental contract in Hua Hin, just show, no copies were made. He had CoR but bank did not take it. 

Scb's Head Office  turned his request down, just DTV is not enough apparently.

 

On 9/23/2024 at 11:05 AM, Tim K said:

Yes got one at SCB but I've shown my Yellow Book and DL.

 

Getting a Thai DL was next on the list, but perhaps I should have done that before attempting the bank account, since the DL seems quite easy to get. However, I was foolish enough to apply for a residence certificate with the sole purpose of making a bank account, and I am still awaiting that one, so I am not sure if that residence certificate will be valid for the DL as well, or if I need to apply for a new one that states the purpose of the DL. At the immigration office they told me that a RC needs to be made again for every different purpose, but that might not be entirely correct.

 

I hadn't looked into getting a yellow book yet, but that might be a good idea as well.

 

I also heard that some people got bank accounts on the ED visa through their language school. Some schools seem to have a link with specific banks. However, I am not sure if the bank account can also be created for people at the school who are not on the ED visa.

[Liquorice]

7 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

I was foolish enough to apply for a residence certificate with the sole purpose of making a bank account, and I am still awaiting that one, so I am not sure if that residence certificate will be valid for the DL as well, or if I need to apply for a new one that states the purpose of the DL. At the immigration office they told me that a RC needs to be made again for every different purpose, but that might not be entirely correct.

Correct, the COR addresses the purpose of its use.
My IO request a letter from the bank, DLT, or vehicle dealership, requesting the COR in the first instance.

[JimmyTobacco]

3 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Correct, the COR addresses the purpose of its use.
My IO request a letter from the bank, DLT, or vehicle dealership, requesting the COR in the first instance.

It is funny that my IO did not request a letter from the bank, but when I mentioned wanting to buy a motorbike, they asked for the purchase deed of the motorbike. Since I didn't have one, they told me I could only get the COR for the bank.

 

I also asked the IO in CM if an expedited procedure for the COR is possible, but they told me no. The only possibility was to have the COR sent to me, at the earliest 10 business days after the request.

 

It seems a bit weird that one might need to apply a couple of times for essentially the same document and has to wait 10 business days every time, especially if it involves something that might require some urgency. Say I want to buy a motorbike off Marketplace and need to close the deal.

[Liquorice]

12 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

It is funny that my IO did not request a letter from the bank, but when I mentioned wanting to buy a motorbike, they asked for the purchase deed of the motorbike. Since I didn't have one, they told me I could only get the COR for the bank.

A letter from the dealership with the motorcycle particulars would suffice.

 

13 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

It seems a bit weird that one might need to apply a couple of times for essentially the same document and has to wait 10 business days every time, especially if it involves something that might require some urgency. Say I want to buy a motorbike off Marketplace and need to close the deal.

Usually available on the day for a fee.

Dealerships need the COR to register your name, address etc, in the logbook.

You could probably purchase a motorcycle off marketplace, but you'd then need the COR to register it in your name.

 

Long term, maybe aim at obtaining a Yellow Tabien Baan + ID card.

[JimmyTobacco]

2 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

A letter from the dealership with the motorcycle particulars would suffice.

 

Usually available on the day for a fee.

Dealerships need the COR to register your name, address etc, in the logbook.

You could probably purchase a motorcycle off marketplace, but you'd then need the COR to register it in your name.

 

Long term, maybe aim at obtaining a Yellow Tabien Baan + ID card.

At the IO in CM they told me that there was no option to pay extra to get the COR immediately. I read everywhere I could get it the next day for 500THB, but they told me it's not possible.

 

I'm lucky to have my Thai gf here, so if I need to purchase a motorbike, we can first put it in her name and then look at putting it in my name later.

 

I am also looking into the Tabien Baan and (pink?) ID card. Is this possible on a DTV without being a tax resident? (so staying less than 180 days per year)

[Liquorice]

25 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

I am also looking into the Tabien Baan and (pink?) ID card. Is this possible on a DTV without being a tax resident? (so staying less than 180 days per year)

You'd have to enquire at your local Amphoe what their requirements were.

[Caldera]

1 hour ago, JimmyTobacco said:

At the IO in CM they told me that there was no option to pay extra to get the COR immediately. I read everywhere I could get it the next day for 500THB, but they told me it's not possible.

 

You might need to contact a visa agent for the expedited service. I don't know about Chiang Mai specifically, but some IOs are more reluctant than others to accept bribes from walk-in foreigners directly. There's always a risk that someone who's later unhappy that่ they had to pay 500 baht will write a nasty Google review besmirching the otherwise stellar reputation of Thai immigration. 

[kekalot]

On 9/24/2024 at 3:06 PM, alw22 said:

If anyone knows a good agent who can help open a bank account for DTV holders in Bangkok, please message me.   I was quoted 21k thb by one agent, which seems steep.

 

you shouldn't need an agent and price is ridiculous, I got two bank accounts on Tourist visas and then one more on Elite (Tourist visa also) Bangkok Bank would normally make an account for you if you have someone Thai that has an account with BKK bank vouch for you. Was just a random friend that came with me and brought her bank book and ID.

 

They will say they "can't do it" because they don't want to bother with it or don't know how to do it but normally with a bit of pressure they will.

 

If I remember correctly they wanted 10k deposit which could be taken off the same day if you wanted but that might have been Kasikorn

 

I was never on work permit or non-immigrant visas and I have 3 accounts, no agents nothing.

[save the frogs]

people are starting to post their DTV experiences on youtube

 

 

[treetops]

1 hour ago, kekalot said:

. . . . I got two bank accounts on Tourist visas and then one more on Elite (Tourist visa also) . . . .

 

How long ago?

[Dart12]

On 9/24/2024 at 3:06 PM, alw22 said:

If anyone knows a good agent who can help open a bank account for DTV holders in Bangkok, please message me.   I was quoted 21k thb by one agent, which seems steep.

Standard price to get a bank account thru an agent is 5k to 6k.  Just ask around. They can do it on tourist visas even.  

Sorry, don't have one in BKK to recommend explicitly.

Someone else asked about get a bank account with an ED visa from language school. 

I was turned down by every branch type out there in January in Pattaya as it was a new restriction just started back then...HOWEVER, I think Bkk bank was doing them still (but I already had that bank and was looking for a second, back up bank).

that was almost a year ago...things might have loosened.

[Tim K]

My friends have applied for DTV in Jakarta 23 Sep here
Today everyone got their visas)

 

no remarks, job or medical.

[anrcaccount]

1 hour ago, Tim K said:

My friends have applied for DTV in Jakarta 23 Sep here
Today everyone got their visas)

 

no remarks, job or medical.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if an Immigration officer at the airport cannot even tell if the DTV was granted for soft power or Workcation purposes.

 

Let alone, access the specific details of what proof was provided at the time of application.

 

If I had to guess I'd say they'll just see DTV and stamp it in.

 

 

[Tim K]

Actually there are reports from Russians that HKT/BKK IOs ask them:
- show bank statements

- Did you buy this? Who's your agent. How much did you pay?
- What you really spent one week at Phnom Penh??
- Where do you live, what you do, where you get money from?

😞
I don't know about agents but ppl just show them what and how they did apply so eventually they are let in. Receipt from the Embassy thay you've paid 10000thb|300-400$usd really helps.

but I remember that my NON-O from Penang was looked with same suspicion at Sadao border with Malaysia in 2018.
Did you buy this??  Do you live in Chiang Mai ?
- Of course not I live in Phuket.
Why does visa have remark Ch. M. ??
- Embassy at Penang did this I don't know.
Thai wife had to step in..


p.s.

[wisemonkey]

Im wanting to apply for the  new DTV using the Thai E-visa site, would love to have some questions answered by anyone whos been successful in getting this visa using the site.

 

First question, seeing as we dont need to do anything in person with the thai e-visa site, is there anyway that they know if you apply for this whilst your already in Thailand? Whats stopping people from doing this, if once approved I just need to print off the documentation, cant I essentially apply from anywhere ? Or do they have checks in place to ensure you are outside of Thailand?

 

With the 500k THB proof, is there a period it needs to be in the account for? Can I just transfer across the money get a statement and transfer it out or they need it in there for a certain amount of time? Also can it be in an account in your home country's currency, ie Im applying for it through the Sydney Thai consulate, can you show an Australian bank with the required amount in AUD or does it need to be in a Thai bank account?

 

With the "Proof of confirmation to attend the activity " what exact documentation is needed? I want to say I will be attending a cooking school, there are a number of cooking schools around my area I stay in Thailand, what documents would I need from them, anyone had any luck with this as a form of activity, as Im sure I can just give the school a few k baht and they would give me the documentation I need, but just wondering if it can be any school doing this or needs to be a certain authorised school, etc.

 

Any pointers from people that have got this done would be much appreciated, can see a lot of good advice on these threads that have helped people get it done, 

Cheers

[JimmyTobacco]

1 hour ago, wisemonkey said:

Im wanting to apply for the  new DTV using the Thai E-visa site, would love to have some questions answered by anyone whos been successful in getting this visa using the site.

 

First question, seeing as we dont need to do anything in person with the thai e-visa site, is there anyway that they know if you apply for this whilst your already in Thailand? Whats stopping people from doing this, if once approved I just need to print off the documentation, cant I essentially apply from anywhere ? Or do they have checks in place to ensure you are outside of Thailand?

 

With the 500k THB proof, is there a period it needs to be in the account for? Can I just transfer across the money get a statement and transfer it out or they need it in there for a certain amount of time? Also can it be in an account in your home country's currency, ie Im applying for it through the Sydney Thai consulate, can you show an Australian bank with the required amount in AUD or does it need to be in a Thai bank account?

 

With the "Proof of confirmation to attend the activity " what exact documentation is needed? I want to say I will be attending a cooking school, there are a number of cooking schools around my area I stay in Thailand, what documents would I need from them, anyone had any luck with this as a form of activity, as Im sure I can just give the school a few k baht and they would give me the documentation I need, but just wondering if it can be any school doing this or needs to be a certain authorised school, etc.

 

Any pointers from people that have got this done would be much appreciated, can see a lot of good advice on these threads that have helped people get it done, 

Cheers

 

If it gets checked or not, I don't know, but obviously they could potentially find out if you are currently in the country or not. Otherwise they might notice at the airport when you re-enter on the DTV visa, that it was issued at a time when you were supposed to be in Thailand. Better to go to Laos, Cambodia or Vietnam and apply there.

 

The money does not have to be in a Thai bank account. I sent them a 6 month statement of my brokerage account (with associated IBAN number) with plenty of funds throughout the entire period, but I don't think there is a golden rule for it. It might depend on the overall strength/quality of your applicaiton, the amount of money, etc. My application was probably overall quite strong, in the sense that I've been a proven self-employed freelancer for 15 years, I have more than enough funds in the account, etc.