Traffic police crack down on dangerous tourist habits on Koh Larn

[Jumbo1968]

8 minutes ago, BritScot said:

Wow! I never realised it was expats and tourists that caused thailands roads to be so dangerous.  Live and learn.

On my regular trips to Koh Larn the vast majority of tourists are Thais not foreigners, they are the ones riding about on motor bikes with out helmets. 

[richard_smith237]

No mention of 'cracking down' on the rental shops renting out motorcycles to those without licenses.... 

 

.... only 'verifying renters’ driving licences'.....   translated: Getting tea money from all those tourists renting motorcycles, but nothing being done about the rental shops which illegally rent out motorcycles to those without a licence.

 

As always - the Police operate in an 'upside down' manner...    IF they don't want tourists without licenses renting out motorcycles - target the actual shops doing the renting.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

On 6/12/2024 at 6:04 PM, snoop1130 said:

verifying renters’ driving licences and enforcing helmet use.

 

Nice little extortion racket. 

[Jumbo1968]

37 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Nice little extortion racket. 

Of my many trips over the years to Koh Larn I never seen a motor bike rider wearing a helmet. Judging by how some of the motor bike riders drive them I doubt they have ever driven one before, maybe a car but not a bike.

[roger101]

12 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

 

Now need to wear a helmet when driving a gulf cart ...?

 

8 hours ago, john donson said:

would a golf car not be 1000x safer than a motosay ride ?

That's right, they are much slower and more stable than a bike ridden by somebody who hasn't got a bike licence or ridden one for 30 years. I did think of buying one in Pattaya but as I live in a condo charging it would be a problem. I bought a little 3-wheeled electric scooter instead. I can take the battery out and take it upstairs to change it. Whether it would be legal or not didn't cross my mind.

[Jumbo1968]

3 minutes ago, roger101 said:

 

That's right, they are much slower and more stable than a bike ridden by somebody who hasn't got a bike licence or ridden one for 30 years. I did think of buying one in Pattaya but as I live in a condo charging it would be a problem. I bought a little 3-wheeled electric scooter instead. I can take the battery out and take it upstairs to change it. Whether it would be legal or not didn't cross my mind.

A few of the hotels use electric buggies  to transport people to the hotel from the pier, are they legal, what’s the difference from a member of the public driving one ?

[roger101]

1 minute ago, Jumbo1968 said:

A few of the hotels use electric buggies  to transport people to the hotel from the pier, are they legal, what’s the difference from a member of the public driving one ?

They same as a 3-wheeled motorbike (Saleang)I can ride one but cannot carry a passenger. If the wife's with me she can ride it with me as a passenger.

[SingAPorn]

Very good but always very absurd when only falangs are stopped and all the thai's with no helmets, no licence, sometimes drunk, are never stopped.

[rocketboy2]

Thai, blame game culture at work.

sad acts. 

 

 

 

[Ctkong]

13 hours ago, Peterphuket said:

'stressing the necessity of verifying renters’ driving licences and enforcing helmet use'

 

Again, only for the tourists, b.t.w. how about this to the locals?

Or do we turn our heads, as usual, the other way.

Enforcing helmet usage is to preserve your life not the cop’s. Thai life is cheap. If you think cops are concerned about your health, you are misled. These is great benefit in ‘milking the cows’ as one poster put it. However if one think of not putting on helmet, then you are solely responsible for your own consequences. The

police is only out there to remind you but the prerogative is yours. 

[Ctkong]

1 hour ago, SingAPorn said:

Very good but always very absurd when only falangs are stopped and all the thai's with no helmets, no licence, sometimes drunk, are never stopped.

The police couldn’t care less if Thai lives ended prematurely due to their own negligence. You read about these daily about their premature demise. Your action your karma is their philosophy. However Thai police expect at least some semblance of respectability and self preservation from the farangs or expats who normally came from a more developed country where lives are valued much more than Thais. Also that any anti safety behavior of not wearing helmet, drink driving , nonlicenced are basically illegal and life limiting actions not only detrimental to their well-being but also to other road users. Do you think it is a good idea for police to treat farangs the same as they treat Thais and basically look the other way as ‘up to you’? Thais have their family network if things go south while you are in a foreign land .

 

[Ctkong]

When overseas as a traveller or expat, always value safety first regardless of the lax enforcement by the local authorities. Have situational awareness, knowledge of  local driving cultures, travel insurance , international driving license ,  good motor bike features  and no drunk driving at all. 
love your life dearly as you only live once and there may not be a second chance .

[jacko45k]

16 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

As always - the Police operate in an 'upside down' manner...    IF they don't want tourists without licenses renting out motorcycles - target the actual shops doing the renting.

Their own are never at fault and rarely hassled. 

[actonion]

On 6/12/2024 at 10:00 PM, Gottfrid said:

Yeah, or just maybe something that needs to be done.

There's  a whole lot more  cracking down needs to be done  before this if safety  is their concern,  which I doubt 

[actonion]

Why only crackdowns where there is pocket money to be  made....

[Gottfrid]

4 minutes ago, actonion said:

Why only crackdowns where there is pocket money to be  made....

That´s a westernized way of looking at the situation. You just need to get more Thai 😉 

Here they look at the combination of the good things. Therefore it will be great if lining pockets and increase safety can go hand in hand.

[actonion]

2 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

That´s a westernized way of looking at the situation. You just need to get more Thai 😉 

Here they look at the combination of the good things. Therefore it will be great if lining pockets and increase safety can go hand in hand.

 

2 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

That´s a westernized way of looking at the situation. You just need to get more Thai 😉 

Here they look at the combination of the good things. Therefore it will be great if lining pockets and increase safety can go hand in hand.

I need to get more Thai?....No thanks 

[fredwiggy]

On 6/13/2024 at 8:37 AM, Peterphuket said:

'stressing the necessity of verifying renters’ driving licences and enforcing helmet use'

 

Again, only for the tourists, b.t.w. how about this to the locals?

Or do we turn our heads, as usual, the other way.

Because that would make sense, and save thousands of lives yearly.

[fredwiggy]

20 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

That´s a westernized way of looking at the situation. You just need to get more Thai 😉 

Here they look at the combination of the good things. Therefore it will be great if lining pockets and increase safety can go hand in hand.

Lining pockets is corruption, and illegal. Better yet to actually enforce the laws here, and save many lives daily. There are good and bad ways to do things, and that separates countries from being first world to third world. Copying good behaviors helps anyone regardless of where you live, as there is always a right way and a wrong way.

[Gottfrid]

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Lining pockets is corruption, and illegal. Better yet to actually enforce the laws here, and save many lives daily. There are good and bad ways to do things, and that separates countries from being first world to third world. Copying good behaviors helps anyone regardless of where you live, as there is always a right way and a wrong way.

Let me ask you. Which countries set up the rules for right or wrong? Was that what you wrongly call third world countries or was it your first world. Also, where in the world did second world countries go? And then, what are you associating with the expression third world? 

The term has all to do with economy. 

• Whatever the terminology, the terms are intended to characterize a nation's place in the global economy.
  
  In other words, not at all to do with nor to be associated with corruption and enforcing laws.

 

[Gottfrid]

45 minutes ago, actonion said:

 

I need to get more Thai?....No thanks 

Then I guess you have chosen the wrong country.

[actonion]

6 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Then I guess you have chosen the wrong country.

I  live elsewhere,Im happy to say 

 

[Gottfrid]

2 minutes ago, actonion said:

why?

 

Sorry, can´t help you with that if you did not understand. Understanding is your job. Not mine.

[fredwiggy]

19 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Let me ask you. Which countries set up the rules for right or wrong? Was that what you wrongly call third world countries or was it your first world. Also, where in the world did second world countries go? And then, what are you associating with the expression third world? 

The term has all to do with economy. 

• Whatever the terminology, the terms are intended to characterize a nation's place in the global economy.
  
  In other words, not at all to do with nor to be associated with corruption and enforcing laws.

 

There is a right and a wrong way to do things, and it doesn't matter where. Some countries have cultures where women are looked at as inferior. This is wrong no matter what. Some person a long time ago thought a certain idea was good, and many followed him because they either liked him or it sounded right to them. That doesn't mean it was a good idea. It just means a lot of people are weak and or followers. This is the definition of a third world country.............

noun

, (sometimes lowercase)

1. the underdeveloped nations of the world, especially those with widespread poverty.
2. the group of developing nations, especially of Asia and Africa, that do not align themselves with the policies of either the U.S. or the former Soviet Union.
3. the minority groups within a nation or predominant culture............................Thailand is a developing country, but still behind many other countries. You can see this in law enforcement, corruption amount, electricity and it's supply system,and how it shuts off so many times in areas, Corruption is widespread because of poverty and low wages, which makes it behind in thinking. A country that wants it's people not to have a good education is a third world country. Fear of reprisal.

[Gottfrid]

45 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

There is a right and a wrong way to do things, and it doesn't matter where. Some countries have cultures where women are looked at as inferior. This is wrong no matter what. Some person a long time ago thought a certain idea was good, and many followed him because they either liked him or it sounded right to them. That doesn't mean it was a good idea. It just means a lot of people are weak and or followers. This is the definition of a third world country.............

noun

, (sometimes lowercase)

1. the underdeveloped nations of the world, especially those with widespread poverty.
2. the group of developing nations, especially of Asia and Africa, that do not align themselves with the policies of either the U.S. or the former Soviet Union.
3. the minority groups within a nation or predominant culture............................Thailand is a developing country, but still behind many other countries. You can see this in law enforcement, corruption amount, electricity and it's supply system,and how it shuts off so many times in areas, Corruption is widespread because of poverty and low wages, which makes it behind in thinking. A country that wants it's people not to have a good education is a third world country. Fear of reprisal.

You must be from the US. 

[HuaHinNew]

Enforcing helmet use................ Really

 

You know why they are only enforcing helmet use on foreigners. 

 

I know it's a rhetorical question?

 

Most Thais, they would pull over for non helmet use, would not have the big cash reserves that the BIB want for their slush funds.

[connda]

On 6/12/2024 at 6:04 PM, snoop1130 said:

Pattaya police have launched a rapid response team on Koh Larn to boost safety and raise public awareness. This initiative focuses on the hazards posed by motorcycle rentals and golf cart use among tourists, aiming to prevent accidents and ensure traffic regulations are followed.

Are you cracking dow on the shops renting motorcycles to tourist who don't have licenses with motorcycle endorsements?  Nope?  Didn't think so.  So this is just a shakedown aimed at tourists.

[Albaby]

On 6/13/2024 at 10:29 PM, Ctkong said:

When overseas as a traveller or expat, always value safety first regardless of the lax enforcement by the local authorities. Have situational awareness, knowledge of  local driving cultures, travel insurance , international driving license ,  good motor bike features  and no drunk driving at all. 
love your life dearly as you only live once and there may not be a second chance .

Blah blah blah....Spare me.

[watchcat]

On 6/13/2024 at 7:00 AM, richard_smith237 said:

No mention of 'cracking down' on the rental shops renting out motorcycles to those without licenses.... 

 

.... only 'verifying renters’ driving licences'.....   translated: Getting tea money from all those tourists renting motorcycles, but nothing being done about the rental shops which illegally rent out motorcycles to those without a licence.

 

As always - the Police operate in an 'upside down' manner...    IF they don't want tourists without licenses renting out motorcycles - target the actual shops doing the renting.

 

 

Correct.

[watchcat]

On 6/12/2024 at 11:04 AM, snoop1130 said:

Pattaya police have launched a rapid response team on Koh Larn, targeting risky tourist behaviours.

 

But the locals have a good behaviours like they do all over Thailand.