Biden Discussing Future with Family at Camp David

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In the wake of a tumultuous debate performance, President Joe Biden is expected to discuss the future of his re-election campaign with his family at Camp David on Sunday. This comes after a nationally televised debate that has left many Democrats worried about his ability to defeat former President Donald Trump in the upcoming November election. According to five individuals familiar with the matter, the decision to seek familial advice was made prior to Thursday's debate.

 

Biden’s trip to Camp David, where he will be joined by First Lady Jill Biden, their children, and grandchildren, was scheduled before the debate. While Democratic leaders have publicly shown support for Biden, there is private concern about his viability. Notable figures such as former Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton have voiced their support on social media. However, sources reveal that senior congressional Democrats, including Reps. Hakeem Jeffries of New York, Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, and Nancy Pelosi of California, have expressed doubts about Biden’s chances in private discussions.

 

One Democratic House member, who believes Biden should withdraw from the race but has not publicly stated so, mentioned that three colleagues shared this sentiment during House votes on Friday. Despite these private concerns, public support from Democratic leaders has remained steadfast. Spokespersons for Pelosi, Jeffries, and Clyburn have all denied that these leaders are expressing doubts behind closed doors.

 

“Speaker Pelosi has full confidence in President Biden and looks forward to attending his inauguration on January 20, 2025,” stated Ian Krager, a spokesman for Pelosi. Similarly, Christie Stephenson, spokeswoman for Jeffries, asserted that he has “repeatedly made clear publicly and privately that he supports President Joe Biden and the Democratic ticket from top to bottom.” Brianna Frias, spokeswoman for Clyburn, emphasized his total confidence in Biden and the Biden-Harris ticket, adding that any reports to the contrary are “completely untrue.”

 

Top Democrats agree that Biden should be given the space to make his own decision regarding his campaign. They believe that this decision, deeply personal and familial, can only be made by Biden in consultation with his family. “The decision-makers are two people — it’s the president and his wife,” one source familiar with the discussions said, adding that those who do not understand this are not knowledgeable about the situation.

 

This account, drawn from interviews with over a dozen Democratic officials, operatives, aides, and donors, highlights the internal crisis within the party just months before an election they deem crucial for the fate of democracy. Despite delivering a powerful speech at a rally in North Carolina on Friday, Biden was described by one person familiar with his mood as humiliated and devoid of confidence, painfully aware of the lasting impact of his debate performance.

 

“It’s a mess,” this person stated. Another source familiar with the dynamics noted that Biden listens primarily to one adviser: the First Lady. “The only person who has ultimate influence with him is the First Lady,” this person said. “If she decides there should be a change of course, there will be a change of course.”

 

Following the publication of the initial report, a source clarified that the Camp David gathering was not a formal family meeting. “Any discussion about the campaign is expected to be informal or an afterthought,” the source said, adding that no formal or determinative discussion was planned.

 

Anita Dunn, one of Biden’s closest advisers, stated on MSNBC’s “The Weekend” that Biden has not discussed dropping out of the race with aides. Instead, internal talks have focused on moving forward. “We had a bad debate,” Dunn said. “What do we do next? You know, the president, above all, is focused on what do we do next? What do I need to go do?”

 

These private discussions among Biden, his family, and top advisers are happening against a backdrop of reckoning for Democrats, who were shocked by Biden’s debate appearance and the frequency with which his train of thought seemed to veer off track. His campaign held a conference call Saturday with members of the Democratic National Committee to reassure party officials and demonstrate that his team is in communication with its allies. “We’re driving this,” an official said.

 

Biden’s aides have told his staff to stay the course. Their message, according to one senior administration official, is, “We’ll weather the storm, just like we always have.” There are three groups of Democrats: those who will defend Biden under any circumstances, those who are ready to see him leave, and those waiting to see what he does and what his poll numbers show in the coming days and weeks. It’s this third group that Democratic insiders are closely monitoring.

 

“Democrats need to take a big breath and look at that polling, look at swing voters,” said one state Democratic Party chair. “Until I see something differently, he’s the person that’s put this coalition together, he’s the person that has the record, he’s the person that beat Donald Trump. Until I see something differently, he’s still the best person to beat Donald Trump.”

 

The Biden campaign declined to comment but pointed to a memo from campaign chair Jen O’Malley Dillon, making the case that Biden can still win, citing the more than $27 million raised between debate day and Friday evening. O’Malley Dillon acknowledged the possibility of tough polling ahead but blamed the media for any potential dips.

 

Some Democrats are weighing the party’s best path to defeating Trump: sticking with an 81-year-old incumbent or selecting a different candidate, which could lead to a messy nomination process. Biden insisted Friday that he remains committed to the race, telling a rally crowd in North Carolina, “I would not be running again if I didn’t believe with all my heart and soul I can do this job.”

 

Biden has spent the past 48 hours attending fundraising events, addressing his debate performance directly. “I understand the concern about the debate — I get it,” he said at one event. “I didn’t have a great night.”

Party elites are likely to urge Biden to step down only if they believe he is not viable and negatively impacting House and Senate races, according to a major donor close to both Obama and Biden. However, there is no clear replacement for Biden, and his departure could lead to a bloody intraparty battle that might advantage Trump. There is no feasible way to force him from the race, as delegates to the Democratic convention are pledged to nominate him. If he chooses to stand for that nomination, he will likely receive it.

 

Moreover, if Biden were to drop out after being nominated, the Democratic National Committee members would choose a successor, and Biden’s preference would carry significant weight. If he exits before the nomination, delegates could nominate anyone, leading to potential political conflict at the convention.

 

“We need to have as much discipline as emotion,” said a senior Democratic official. “It’s not politically smart for Biden to step down.”

 

Credit: NBC News 2024-07-01

 

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[Tug]

Just have to wait for his decision,but this I do know I listened to what TRUMP had to say all lies the only policy was massive camps and deportations restrictions on freedoms and a lot of racism.That being said Joe certainly had a bad day I just wished he would have come out of the gate letting everyone know he was ill.

[jerrymahoney]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

That being said Joe certainly had a bad day

So how many bad days can Biden be expected to have in the next 4 years post-JAN 2025

[shdmn]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Just have to wait for his decision,but this I do know I listened to what TRUMP had to say all lies the only policy was massive camps and deportations restrictions on freedoms and a lot of racism.That being said Joe certainly had a bad day I just wished he would have come out of the gate letting everyone know he was ill.

We have a guy who has a cold, and a guy who can't stop lying if his life depended on it, tried to overthrow the country, wants to replace the entire federal workforce with yes men, and is a convicted felon.  Tough choice.

Edited Sunday at 11:46 PM by shdmn

[jerrymahoney]

4 minutes ago, shdmn said:

We have a guy who has a cold, and a guy who can't stop lying if his life depended on it, tried to overthrow the country, wants to replace the entire federal workforce with yes men, and is a convicted felon.  Tough choice.

This is from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution editorial linked:

 

This wasn’t a bad night; it was confirmation of the worst fears of some of Biden’s most ardent supporters — that after 36 years in the U.S. Senate, eight more as vice president and a term in the White House, age has finally caught up to him.

 

This moment was contemplated by Democrats and by Biden advisers when he was seeking the party’s nomination for president in 2020. There was serious and public discussion of Biden, then 77, pledging to serve only one term. That discussion acknowledged the obvious. If reelected, Biden would be 86 years old at the end of his presidency in January 2029. There is no historical precedent for this.

 

And now there are signs of decline, which were clear Thursday.

 

 

[thaipo7]

11 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

This is from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution editorial linked:

 

This wasn’t a bad night; it was confirmation of the worst fears of some of Biden’s most ardent supporters — that after 36 years in the U.S. Senate, eight more as vice president and a term in the White House, age has finally caught up to him.

 

This moment was contemplated by Democrats and by Biden advisers when he was seeking the party’s nomination for president in 2020. There was serious and public discussion of Biden, then 77, pledging to serve only one term. That discussion acknowledged the obvious. If reelected, Biden would be 86 years old at the end of his presidency in January 2029. There is no historical precedent for this.

 

And now there are signs of decline, which were clear Thursday.

 

 

All of Biden's time does not mean crap. He has always been on the wrong side of history.  He just happened to live off the Government for 50 years like Fauci.  He would not have made it on the outside.  Everyone is so worried on what Biden needs to do to win.  Anyone can see what he has done the last four years.  Who wants more?  I don't.  What has he done that all you supporters want 4 more years of him?  What??  

[jerrymahoney]

 Again from the AJC editorial:

 

Biden’s (2024) candidacy was grounded in his incumbency and the belief of Democratic leaders and pollsters that he stood the best chance of defeating Trump in November. That is no longer the case.

[candide]

If only for his own health, he should drop out of the race. This is too much pressure for his age.

[gargamon]

Biden should drop out. Any replacement for him will easily defeat the corrupt, lying, convicted orange felon.

[2baht]

Ol' Wonky Joe or Lyin' Donzo, well done America but I'd rather see Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck in the white house than these geriatric old fools!

[Cryingdick]

Hunter is his biggest advocate. Hunter is the most b intelligent man Joe has ever met. Let's hope for the sake of the future of democracy that Hunter prevails and Joe stays in the race. The alternative is unthinkable.

[RichardColeman]

54 minutes ago, shdmn said:

We have a guy who has a cold, and a guy who can't stop lying if his life depended on it, tried to overthrow the country, wants to replace the entire federal workforce with yes men, and is a convicted felon.  Tough choice.

Hmm, think you will find sleepy Joe told more lies at the debate - no soldiers dying under my reign was a classic !

 

1. Trump has never been charged - let alone convicted - of trying to overthrow the country.

2. The entire Federal workforce - especially the FBI and CIA - NEED replacing due to their own conspiracy of lies in Russian disinformation and the laptop of the junkie.

3. Trump being convicted in NY hardly makes him a felon. It was initiated by democrat Biden, Democrat judge, in a democrat state, with a democrat jury, with a judge whose daughter works for the democrats, brought by a democrat DA running on get Trump. Are you totally blind to that or just pleading ignorance. 

 

My biggest fear now is that with Joe acting like Bub from Day Of The Dead, they will go full panic mode to jail Trump this month as they cannot beat him any other way. If you think the nutty riots in US and France are bad by the loony left, jailing Trump will likely be the starting point of the splitting of the US into red and blue countries.

Edited yesterday at 12:39 AM by RichardColeman

[Cryingdick]

7 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Biden should drop out. Any replacement for him will easily defeat the corrupt, lying, convicted orange felon.

 

the oroblem with that is they all poll lower than Biden. Nobody wants Newsom for example.

[mfd101]

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

Top Democrats agree that Biden should be given the space to make his own decision regarding his campaign. They believe that this decision, deeply personal and familial, can only be made by Biden in consultation with his family. “The decision-makers are two people — it’s the president and his wife,”

I hope someone somewhere is actually thinking about Usofa's future and its place in the world ...

[impulse]

13 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

I hope someone somewhere is actually thinking about Usofa's future and its place in the world ...

 

One of the candidates wants to Make America Great Again.

[Cryingdick]

14 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

One of the candidates wants to Make America Great Again.

 

the other her one wants to demolish it and rebuild it with slave labor from Latin America and is a human vegetable. If a few 12 year old kids gett murdered and raped along the way that's just a cost of doing business.

Edited yesterday at 01:11 AM by Cryingdick

[Robert Paulson]

The hair sniffer’s days of sniffing heads has come to an end. 

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, Tug said:

Just have to wait for his decision,but this I do know I listened to what TRUMP had to say all lies the only policy was massive camps and deportations restrictions on freedoms and a lot of racism.That being said Joe certainly had a bad day I just wished he would have come out of the gate letting everyone know he was ill.

racism? what did he say that was racist?

 

he was ill, really!, so how about all the other times he has been frail, forgetful and muttering gibberish?

[Cryingdick]

It is funny to watch them regain the "narrative" saying he had a cold. lol are people really this naive and unaware?

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

The hair sniffer’s days of sniffing heads has come to an end. 

what was with sniffing the pope too? weird

[impulse]

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

racism? what did he say that was racist?

 

He didn't have to say anything.  You could see it in his eyes, if only you had the syndrome too.  It's a superpower, that syndrome.  Allows you to read minds, rewrite the past, and tell the future.

 

Edited yesterday at 01:23 AM by impulse

[anyone]

It's time for him to move to Pattaya - drink beer in the morning and stare blankly at the dark TV for the rest of the day 👉

[stoner]

3 hours ago, Tug said:

That being said Joe certainly had a bad day I just wished he would have come out of the gate letting everyone know he was ill.

 

maybe he shouldn't of beat medicare ? 

[300sd]

President Joe is finished. It's soon to be Resident Joe.

 

[300sd]

3 hours ago, Tug said:

I just wished he would have come out of the gate letting everyone know he was ill.

Yes thanks for the funny. Old Joe let everyone know about that many years ago. Yep it's just a cold.

[Robert Paulson]

He needs to be in an old persons home not, allegedly, running the country (into the ground) 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

If he read the posts of Trump supporters on sites like this, seeing how they mimic the Fox News and other right wing narrative about his presidency and about who Trump is, it would be hard not to soldier on. It takes the same heroic sentiment that made him step up for 2020 to accept that Trump is a bigger threat and waste of space than ever but others need to take it from here.

I hope Jill and other family, friends and advisors aren't the types to flog a dead horse, and create a fantasy scenario that he has 4 more year in him. 

[gargamon]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

the oroblem with that is they all poll lower than Biden. Nobody wants Newsom for example.

No polls since the debate that I've seen.

[Red Forever]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Hmm, think you will find sleepy Joe told more lies at the debate - no soldiers dying under my reign was a classic !

 

1. Trump has never been charged - let alone convicted - of trying to overthrow the country.

2. The entire Federal workforce - especially the FBI and CIA - NEED replacing due to their own conspiracy of lies in Russian disinformation and the laptop of the junkie.

3. Trump being convicted in NY hardly makes him a felon. It was initiated by democrat Biden, Democrat judge, in a democrat state, with a democrat jury, with a judge whose daughter works for the democrats, brought by a democrat DA running on get Trump. Are you totally blind to that or just pleading ignorance. 

 

My biggest fear now is that with Joe acting like Bub from Day Of The Dead, they will go full panic mode to jail Trump this month as they cannot beat him any other way. If you think the nutty riots in US and France are bad by the loony left, jailing Trump will likely be the starting point of the splitting of the US into red and blue countries.

"nutty riots in US and France are bad by the loony (sic) left"!

Yeah right. Those swastika wearing, Nazi saluting, armed Proud Boys are soo far lefties eh?

[Cryingdick]

34 minutes ago, anyone said:

It's time for him to move to Pattaya - drink beer in the morning and stare blankly at the dark TV for the rest of the day 👉

 

Only rigor mortis could make him stiff at this point. As a tax oayer  i am not supplying his viagra i bet Doctor Jill would enjoy Pattaya.

Edited yesterday at 01:59 AM by Cryingdick