Cyanide poisoning suspected in deaths of 6 Vietnamese nationals

[webfact]

A Thai academic suspects that cyanide poisoning may have been used in the deaths of six Vietnamese nationals at a hotel in Bangkok.

 

The deaths of the six Vietnamese visitors came to light at approximately 7.30pm, yesterday, July 16. They were found lifeless in the same room on the fifth floor of a luxury hotel, reported to be the Grand Hyatt Erawan Hotel, located in Bangkok’s city centre. The original report stated they were found on the sixth floor.

 

Two of the Vietnamese nationals also held American citizenship. It was reported on DailyNews that each of them was frequent visitors to Thailand but the police have not yet confirmed this information.

 

According to reports from Brick Info TV, each Vietnamese tourist arrived in Thailand alone. They checked into separate rooms located on the fifth to seventh floors of the hotel, later gathering in a single room on the fifth floor.

The group had booked seven hotel rooms but only five members checked in. Despite this, six bodies were discovered in the room. According to the police report, they had not yet paid for their accommodation. Officers are also investigating whether there was a mistake in booking the room or if the seventh person did not attend the scheduled meeting.

 

Upon inspecting the room, investigators found that six plates of Thai food had been ordered, all left untouched. However, empty cups in the room indicated that each person had consumed tea or coffee before their death.

 

Two suspicious stainless-steel tumblers were discovered in the room, though their contents have not been disclosed. Additionally, officers located a packet of tea and two opened bottles of water and mineral water.

 

Cyanide effect

 

Samples of all the food and drinks were collected for further investigation, as poisoning is suspected to be the main cause of death. Officers also plan to investigate the luggage left unpacked in the room.

 

Police further reported that the fingers and toes of the deceased had turned dark. However, this does not confirm poisoning, as it could be due to the bodies being undiscovered for about 24 hours.

 

A well-known academic and professor from Kasetsart University, Weerachai Phutdhawong, suspected that the Vietnamese nationals may have been poisoned with cyanide.

 

Phutdhawong posted on Facebook that he had seen photographs of the bodies and other evidence from the hotel room. He suggested that cyanide might be involved because each deceased person had bruises and pink skin.

 

Furthermore, he noted that a person dying from cyanide poisoning would not exhibit foam at the mouth.

 

The professor also highlighted that each Vietnamese individual appeared to have died suddenly, which is consistent with the effects of cyanide, known to cause rapid death in sufficient quantities.

 

However, Professor Phutdhawong advised the public to await comprehensive autopsy results for each body, as well as the examination of the food and beverages found in the room.

 

ORIGINAL STORY: 6 Vietnamese nationals found dead at hotel in Bangkok

 

Six Vietnamese nationals mysteriously died today at a luxury hotel in Bangkok after allegedly drinking tea and coffee mixed with poison. Police believe there may be a seventh Vietnamese but that individual has not been located.

 

The deaths of the six foreigners were reported to the Metropolitan Police Bureau at approximately 7.30pm today, July 16. They were reportedly found lifeless in the same room on the sixth floor of the luxury hotel near the Ratchaprasong intersection.

 

The name of the hotel has not yet been confirmed, but some news agencies reported that it was the five-star Grand Hyatt Erawan Hotel.

 

According to a report on Brick Info TV, they were scheduled to check out today, and all of their belongings were packed up ready to leave.

 

Several Thai news agencies initially reported that all of the foreigners had died in a shooting. However, police later confirmed that there were no traces of fighting or struggling found at the scene.

 

The Commander of the Investigation Division of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, Teeradate Thammasutee, arrived at the scene at about 8.30pm. Teeradate reported that all of the deceased were Vietnamese nationals, and two of them also held American citizenship.

 

by Petch Petpailin 

Photo via ThaiRath

 

Source: The Thaiger 2024-07-17

 

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[novacova]

If this isn’t suicide then certainly hope the perp is caught.

[Georgealbert]

Possible theory, but will the autopsy to be able to confirm if this was cyanide poisoning. Testing of the reported found, suspect substance maybe the best option.

 

Cyanide - “After oral intake, the inhibition of psychophysical abilities occurs within a few seconds to 1 or 2 min. In some cases, a latency interval of 5–10 min or longer has been reported. Soon after loss of consciousness, convulsions, hypotension, apnea, shock, and, eventually, death from cellular asphyxia have been observed.” - Dorooshi G, Dorostkar A, Rahimi A, Zoofaghari S. An unusual acute cyanide intoxication. Adv Biomed Res.2020;9:42.

Research by Sam Houston State University, U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Chemical Defense; and South Dakota State University shows that.

“Unless cyanide is discovered at the time of death on the mouth or nose, elevated cyanide concentrations can only be found for up to two days under toxicological testing.

 

Problem at autopsy is that due to the relatively short half-life of cyanide, toxicological detection of cyanide to confirm cyanide poisoning may only be feasible within the first few hours following exposure. Cyanide levels in blood samples taken at autopsy the next day have been reported to decrease by approximately 79 percent.”

 

Newer research and testing techniques are available, such as from liver and blood samples using Headspace-Ion Mobility Spectrometry, but do the RTP have access to such equipment, or maybe the FBI will be able to help, as they are now involved in the investigation.

[ThaiFelix]

I am certainly not disputing recent reports however I find it curious that they would ALL want to drink coffee/tea before even touching their meals??  I am a serious coffee addict but would never drink coffee/tea right before a meal??

 

I also note how their meals were laid out and find it odd.  It looks more like how a group of foreigners would eat at home, everyone eating the same.  Ive lived in SE Asia for over 20 years and usually find Asians tend to order together but different meals but making them centre bowls for each to share and each member just having a plate with rice in front of him/her.  

 

Just my humble observations.

Edited July 17 by ThaiFelix

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, novacova said:

If this isn’t suicide then certainly hope the perp is caught.

Long gone, as the bodies were not found for 24 hours..

[Caldera]

Evil stuff.

[Ralf001]

Cyanide, nowt wrong with a bit of old school style !

[superal]

Need to find the 7th person who never checked in . CCTV may hold a clue . Has to be a strong motive and reason to take out 6 people .

[AnotherOneHere]

Maybe it is related to the Pattaya alleged terrorism, where that suspicious Iranian restaurant owner died with his wife.

[bananafish]

1 hour ago, ThaiFelix said:

I am certainly not disputing recent reports however I find it curious that they would ALL want to drink coffee/tea before even touching their meals??  I am a serious coffee addict but would never drink coffee/tea right before a meal??

 

I also note how their meals were laid out and find it odd.  It looks more like how a group of foreigners would eat at home, everyone eating the same.  Ive lived in SE Asia for over 20 years and usually find Asians tend to order together but different meals but making them centre bowls for each to share and each member just having a plate with rice in front of him/her.  

 

Just my humble observations.

I found those things notable, too. 

 

I imagined that if they were poisoned, someone must have been making a point to get everyone to drink the tea at the same time. Like, "hey, there's this new tea that you absolutely must try".

[ronster]

How do you manage to get everyone to drink at the same time apart from saying a toast and even then there might be someone who doesn't drink it straight away. 🤔

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, ronster said:

How do you manage to get everyone to drink at the same time apart from saying a toast and even then there might be someone who doesn't drink it straight away. 🤔

Asians is politie when served tea or whatever, they have at least a zip of what they are served

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, ronster said:

How do you manage to get everyone to drink at the same time apart from saying a toast and even then there might be someone who doesn't drink it straight away. 🤔

 

   Can someone send the Police around to ronsters house and interview him and possibly prevent another poisoning 

[zakalwe]

1 hour ago, ThaiFelix said:

I am certainly not disputing recent reports however I find it curious that they would ALL want to drink coffee/tea before even touching their meals??  I am a serious coffee addict but would never drink coffee/tea right before a meal??

 

I also note how their meals were laid out and find it odd.  It looks more like how a group of foreigners would eat at home, everyone eating the same.  Ive lived in SE Asia for over 20 years and usually find Asians tend to order together but different meals but making them centre bowls for each to share and each member just having a plate with rice in front of him/her.  

 

Just my humble observations.

That meal literally looks staged. So no one had a bite but everyone drank their tea?

[spidermike007]

I just read that this appears to be a poisoning by one of the members of the group, due to massive debt. Does this make sense? How would all six drink all the tea, at the same time? And why take others with you for the ride? That seems exceptionally cruel. 

[ronster]

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Can someone send the Police around to ronsters house and interview him and possibly prevent another poisoning 

I could put any kind of drink in front of people around me and no matter what it was they still wouldn't drink it at same time !

Food on the other hand 😂

[tomazbodner]

[sammieuk1]

Been here before is she still locked up?. Sararat "Am" Rangsiwuthaporn, who has since been dubbed "Am Cyanide", who poisoned more than 80 people 🤔

 

 

[Jaggg88]

12 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Been here before is she still locked up?. Sararat "Am" Rangsiwuthaporn, who has since been dubbed "Am Cyanide", who poisoned more than 80 people 🤔

 

 

She came to mind as soon as cyanide was mentioned

[Cracker2000]

What a massive disinformation campaign by Thai authorities and business intetests to cover-up another toxic cleaning chemical tragedy!

 

They just flew in,  hadn't even upacked, decides to have a meal together while trying to overcome jetlag. All sat on same room for same exposure time, aleep/pass out ... dead, or died in sepearate rooms and bodies moved to one room and scence staged by hotel/authorities to cover it up.

 

All happend before.

 

 

TIT

Edited July 17 by Cracker2000
Typos

[orchis]

3 minutes ago, Cracker2000 said:

They just flew in,

No, they were checking out that day.

[sammieuk1]

7 minutes ago, Cracker2000 said:

What a massive disinformation campaign by Thai authorities and business intetests to cover-up another toxic cleaning chemical tragedy!

 

They just flew in,  hadn't even upacked, decides to have a meal together while trying to overcome jetlag. All sat on same room for same exposure time, aleep/pass out ... dead, or died in sepearate rooms and bodies moved to one room and scence staged by hotel/authorities to cover it up.

 

All happend before.

 

 

TIT

But but but 7 checked in 6 are dead 1 is nowhere to be seen are you suggesting the cleaner did it? 🤔

[Old Croc]

38 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

 

Rubbish, he only serves tea with polonium-210

[thecyclist]

The mysterious 7th person. A new Netflix crime series coming up soon. 

[Montnoveau]

2 hours ago, ThaiFelix said:

I am certainly not disputing recent reports however I find it curious that they would ALL want to drink coffee/tea before even touching their meals??  I am a serious coffee addict but would never drink coffee/tea right before a meal??

 

I also note how their meals were laid out and find it odd.  It looks more like how a group of foreigners would eat at home, everyone eating the same.  Ive lived in SE Asia for over 20 years and usually find Asians tend to order together but different meals but making them centre bowls for each to share and each member just having a plate with rice in front of him/her.  

 

Just my humble observations.

You're right, but this being a high-end hotel and not the everyday food court, maybe room service is more accustomed doing it the international way?

[Eric Loh]

The food that was properly laid out but not consumed can be related to Chinese custom for the dead. The food is meant for the departed so they can filled their stomach before embarking their after life journey. It is customary to have elaborate preparation for the food for the departed. 

[bannork]

Shedding some light on the murders 

"Grand Hyatt Bangkok: Victims drank from cyanide-laced teacups - BBC News" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3g64ljwp2go

[Matrosen]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

A Thai academic suspects that cyanide poisoning may have been used in the deaths of six Vietnamese nationals at a hotel in Bangkok.

 

The deaths of the six Vietnamese visitors came to light at approximately 7.30pm, yesterday, July 16. They were found lifeless in the same room on the fifth floor of a luxury hotel, reported to be the Grand Hyatt Erawan Hotel, located in Bangkok’s city centre. The original report stated they were found on the sixth floor.

 

Two of the Vietnamese nationals also held American citizenship. It was reported on DailyNews that each of them was frequent visitors to Thailand but the police have not yet confirmed this information.

 

According to reports from Brick Info TV, each Vietnamese tourist arrived in Thailand alone. They checked into separate rooms located on the fifth to seventh floors of the hotel, later gathering in a single room on the fifth floor.

The group had booked seven hotel rooms but only five members checked in. Despite this, six bodies were discovered in the room. According to the police report, they had not yet paid for their accommodation. Officers are also investigating whether there was a mistake in booking the room or if the seventh person did not attend the scheduled meeting.

 

Upon inspecting the room, investigators found that six plates of Thai food had been ordered, all left untouched. However, empty cups in the room indicated that each person had consumed tea or coffee before their death.

 

Two suspicious stainless-steel tumblers were discovered in the room, though their contents have not been disclosed. Additionally, officers located a packet of tea and two opened bottles of water and mineral water.

 

Cyanide effect

 

Samples of all the food and drinks were collected for further investigation, as poisoning is suspected to be the main cause of death. Officers also plan to investigate the luggage left unpacked in the room.

 

Police further reported that the fingers and toes of the deceased had turned dark. However, this does not confirm poisoning, as it could be due to the bodies being undiscovered for about 24 hours.

 

A well-known academic and professor from Kasetsart University, Weerachai Phutdhawong, suspected that the Vietnamese nationals may have been poisoned with cyanide.

 

Phutdhawong posted on Facebook that he had seen photographs of the bodies and other evidence from the hotel room. He suggested that cyanide might be involved because each deceased person had bruises and pink skin.

 

Furthermore, he noted that a person dying from cyanide poisoning would not exhibit foam at the mouth.

 

The professor also highlighted that each Vietnamese individual appeared to have died suddenly, which is consistent with the effects of cyanide, known to cause rapid death in sufficient quantities.

 

However, Professor Phutdhawong advised the public to await comprehensive autopsy results for each body, as well as the examination of the food and beverages found in the room.

 

ORIGINAL STORY: 6 Vietnamese nationals found dead at hotel in Bangkok

 

Six Vietnamese nationals mysteriously died today at a luxury hotel in Bangkok after allegedly drinking tea and coffee mixed with poison. Police believe there may be a seventh Vietnamese but that individual has not been located.

 

The deaths of the six foreigners were reported to the Metropolitan Police Bureau at approximately 7.30pm today, July 16. They were reportedly found lifeless in the same room on the sixth floor of the luxury hotel near the Ratchaprasong intersection.

 

The name of the hotel has not yet been confirmed, but some news agencies reported that it was the five-star Grand Hyatt Erawan Hotel.

 

According to a report on Brick Info TV, they were scheduled to check out today, and all of their belongings were packed up ready to leave.

 

Several Thai news agencies initially reported that all of the foreigners had died in a shooting. However, police later confirmed that there were no traces of fighting or struggling found at the scene.

 

The Commander of the Investigation Division of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, Teeradate Thammasutee, arrived at the scene at about 8.30pm. Teeradate reported that all of the deceased were Vietnamese nationals, and two of them also held American citizenship.

 

by Petch Petpailin 

Photo via ThaiRath

 

Source: The Thaiger 2024-07-17

 

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Hmmm,

7 rooms & 6 dead bodies! Would not the person booking the 7th room be the first suspect?

[smew]

Speedy Thai police: suspicious tea/coffee thermoses( why suspicious?, the killer(s) would have taken them away), so must be poisoning, 6 guys poisoned, case solved. 

[Dexxter]

1 hour ago, thecyclist said:

The mysterious 7th person. A new Netflix crime series coming up soon. 

 

I look forward to it for answers.

Edited July 17 by Dexxter