Move Forward submits three constitutional amendment bills

[webfact]

The opposition Move Forward party has submitted three draft bills to parliament today, seeking amendments to the Constitution.

 

Move Forward spokesman Parit Wacharasindhu said that the draft bills seek to abrogate all edicts and orders issued by the post-coup administration, known as the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), which toppled the elected government of Yingluck Shinawatra in 2014.

 

The drafts aim to prevent and resist future military takeovers and to scrap the 20-year National Strategic Plan.

 

Parit explained that Move Forward decided to submit its own version of constitutional amendments to the House, because the process of crafting a new charter will take about two years which, they claim, is too slow.

 

Full story: Thai PBS 2024-07-26

 

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[Sydebolle]

This is a pristine test, if Thailand has reached a democratic level and understanding of the 21st century; let's wait and see, if those amendments will professionally discussed and dealt with - either way so both the government and the opposition can live with the outcome! 

Good luck, Thailand - you will need it! 

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Parit explained that Move Forward decided to submit its own version of constitutional amendments to the House, because the process of crafting a new charter will take about two years which, they claim, is too slow.

Change takes time and dragging feet will keep the status Quo

[BobBKK]

They are young and brave. I'll never know how they contain their anger at winning the election and then being double-crossed by the Thaksin band. The system is very repressive, and I fear nothing will change until some dinosaurs leave the earth.

[mfd101]

Bold move. Certain to fail.

[mfd101]

6 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

how they contain their anger at winning the election

For the umpteenth time (and sadly), they didn't 'win the election'. They won more votes (just) than any other party but did not win a majority of votes or of seats in the Lower House.

 

To 'win an election' when there are multiple parties competing, you need 50% +1 of the votes and of the seats in the Lower House.

[bob smith]

Sadly, Thailand will probably have to wait until most the dinosaurs are 6ft under until any tangible change occurs.

 

Contrary to popular belief I actually interact with Thais from all across the social strata and age groups.

 

I have noticed a trend.

 

Those born before 1990 tend to have a more conservative view on life. They have been well indoctrinated by the Thai school system and can remember a time without the internet. They are, imo, mostly a lost cause. They still have deep feelings for the establishment and are reluctant to any form of drastic change. Of course there are exceptions, but generally this is what I have noticed..

 

Those born post 1990 are somewhat different, and those born post 2000 are most certainly different. They are progressive, well informed, mailable, open minded and resourceful. They are screaming for change and many are quite embarrassed to live here and always ask me why do I live here when they are so desperate to leave..

 

If you extrapolate that over Thai society as a whole, then I fear it may be another two decades or so before the youth of today finally get what they want.

 

bob.

Edited July 26 by bob smith

[BobBKK]

18 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

For the umpteenth time (and sadly), they didn't 'win the election'. They won more votes (just) than any other party but did not win a majority of votes or of seats in the Lower House.

 

To 'win an election' when there are multiple parties competing, you need 50% +1 of the votes and of the seats in the Lower House.

 I don't believe your view on it is correct. They formed an alliance with the treacherous PT and were squashed by unelected senators - they won the election because they had that alliance of 292 seats and 65%.

Why 'Just' more votes?

14,400,000 to PTs 10,900,000. That's a HUGE 10% difference - they won and the facts speak for themselves.

Edited July 26 by BobBKK

[mfd101]

14 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 I don't believe your view on it is correct. They formed an alliance with the treacherous PT and were squashed by unelected senators - they won the election because they had that alliance of 292 seats and 65%.

It was the ALLIANCE of MFP & PT that had a majority of votes and (more important) of seats in the Lower House. It was not (unfortunately) MFP on its own.

[BobBKK]

8 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

It was the ALLIANCE of MFP & PT that had a majority of votes and (more important) of seats in the Lower House. It was not (unfortunately) MFP on its own.

 Yes - that's what I meant, but MFP still came top of the polls by 10% between first and second. If it were not for the unelected, they would be in power - that is a fact.

[TigerandDog]

56 minutes ago, bob smith said:

Sadly, Thailand will probably have to wait until most the dinosaurs are 6ft under until any tangible change occurs.

 

Contrary to popular belief I actually interact with Thais from all across the social strata and age groups.

 

I have noticed a trend.

 

Those born before 1990 tend to have a more conservative view on life. They have been well indoctrinated by the Thai school system and can remember a time without the internet. They are, imo, mostly a lost cause. They still have deep feelings for the establishment and are reluctant to any form of drastic change. Of course there are exceptions, but generally this is what I have noticed..

 

Those born post 1990 are somewhat different, and those born post 2000 are most certainly different. They are progressive, well informed, mailable, open minded and resourceful. They are screaming for change and many are quite embarrassed to live here and always ask me why do I live here when they are so desperate to leave..

 

If you extrapolate that over Thai society as a whole, then I fear it may be another two decades or so before the youth of today finally get what they want.

 

bob.

It's taken a long time Bob but you finally managed to post a comment that actually makes sense instead of your usual drivel.

Edited July 26 by TigerandDog

[bob smith]

14 minutes ago, TigerandDog said:

It's taken a long time Bob but you finally managed to post a comment that actually makes sense instead of your usual drivel.

I try my best everyday.

 

bob.

[mfd101]

It may - probably will - take another 2 decades, by which time today's disillusioned youth will have become cautious parents & greedy careerists ...

[ikke1959]

A change of the constitution is almost impossible.. Better write a complete new one as the army always does after the coups. Than there never problems with old or other constitution. Write as in many countries just the basics such as, head of state, freedom of speech and writing and reading, freedom of religion, health care for everyone, justice, task of army and police, hugh penalties for coupmakers etc...and make it the fundament of Thailand that nobody can change even by a coup. Simplicity