How is this possible?

[susanlea]

Jordan Peterson claims all beef diet fixed his health problems including gum disease, depression and other things. I know beef has lots of nutrients but it isnt high in certain things. Mystery to me. 

[transam]

He's probably telling Porkies...........🤭

[0ffshore360]

  On 7/30/2024 at 12:30 PM, transam said:

He's probably telling Porkies...........🤭

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Can you explain  why you say so?

 

[Hummin]

Well it can be placebo, but human body is adoptable as long you get enough essential vitamins and minerals.

 

For some who have mental disorders,  experience more stable moods on carnivores diet. 

[transam]

  On 7/30/2024 at 12:34 PM, 0ffshore360 said:

Can you explain  why you say so?

 

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It was a jest, Offy............🤣

[0ffshore360]

  On 7/30/2024 at 12:36 PM, transam said:

It was a jest, Offy............🤣

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A jest ? Suggesting someone is a liar?

Your sense of humour  is ....sad.

[Kinnock]

Possibly paid by the cattle farmers lobby group.  I remember when the tobacco lobby was paying people to claim health benefits for smoking.  Similar to the oil lobby paying for 'research' into the environment.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

His daughter Mikhaila had massive health problems - as far as I know since she was a child.

She tried many diets, and it looks nothing worked. Then she tried this and that and eliminated different kinds of foods. Then, at some point, she tried only eating beef. And it seems then her health got a lot better. So, she continued only eating beef.

 

Her father Jordan Peterson also had health problems, and he tried the same what his daughter did, and it seems he feels fine.

 

Why? I don't know. And as far as I know he and his daughter talk about that when people ask, but they don't try to promote that everybody should eat just beef. So, it seems it works for them, they don't criticize others if those others eat something different, all is fine.

 

[Enoon]

 

The statement is made possible by the falling consumption of beef in the US and the willingness of Big Beef to pay "influencers", such as Peterson, to promote its consumption:

 

https://www.meatpoultry.com/articles/29604-2024-industry-outlook-beef-dealing-with-two-year-decline

https://www.wired.com/story/beef-consumption-boomers/

 

 

[susanlea]

  On 7/30/2024 at 12:48 PM, Enoon said:

 

The statement is made possible by the falling consumption of beef in the US and the willingness of Big Beef to pay "influencers", such as Peterson, to promote its consumption:

 

https://www.meatpoultry.com/articles/29604-2024-industry-outlook-beef-dealing-with-two-year-decline

https://www.wired.com/story/beef-consumption-boomers/

 

 

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He does not look poor enough to really need bribes. I see no reason for it.

[Kinnock]

  On 7/30/2024 at 1:25 PM, susanlea said:

He does not look poor enough to really need bribes. I see no reason for it.

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..... because rich people never want more money 😆

[susanlea]

  On 7/30/2024 at 1:29 PM, Kinnock said:

..... because rich people never want more money 😆

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So you think they pay him $1m to say this stuff?

[Yellowtail]

  On 7/30/2024 at 1:29 PM, Kinnock said:

..... because rich people never want more money 😆

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Yes, it's only the poor that never want more. 

[Yellowtail]

I like JP and as I understand the thinking, some people have dietary issues, and the only way to figure it out is by eliminating everything from your diet, and trying one food at a time, and because it takes months to detect any change, it would take a lifetime to determine what is causing the issue. 

 

He did a nice 90-minute interview with Elon Musk, but I can't seem to understand what the heck Elon's saying half the time. 

[KhunLA]

Beef is pretty darn healthy and nutrition packed.   Leaner cuts probably a bit better.  Excess fat and you get 'free' tallow, and better than most cooking oils.  I like getting a picanha every now any then.  Don't mind all that fat as renders down to a lot of tallow.  Hard to find a thick meatier one at Makro, but always buy them when I see 'em.  Pretty much the only beef I buy now for steaks or roasts or roast beef for sandwiches.

 

Not sure about a 100% diet of, and can't imagine anyone actually does it.  But if going 'all anything', that would be one of the best choices.

[Moonlover]

  On 7/30/2024 at 12:28 PM, susanlea said:

Jordan Peterson claims all beef diet fixed his health problems including gum disease, depression and other things. I know beef has lots of nutrients but it isnt high in certain things. Mystery to me. 

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I would have thought that the biggest risk he would be facing would be scurvy due to the lack of fruit and vegetables. Sailors of old used to suffer terribly from it.

[susanlea]

  On 7/30/2024 at 2:43 PM, Moonlover said:

I would have thought that the biggest risk he would be facing would be scurvy due to the lack of fruit and vegetables. Sailors of old used to suffer terribly from it.

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Liver has vitamin C but I'm not sure he eats it.

[JimTripper]

There are a million other things that could have been the cause. People like to single out one thing as a casual factor. Look at any lifestyle habit he has and you could point to it as a healer.

[chickenslegs]

  On 7/30/2024 at 3:09 PM, susanlea said:

Liver has vitamin C but I'm not sure he eats it.

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Maybe with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

[atpeace]

  On 7/30/2024 at 3:09 PM, susanlea said:

Liver has vitamin C but I'm not sure he eats it.

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Seems he gets it from meats.  I couldn't do it but works for many.

https://liondiet.com/vitamin-results-2023-5-years-on-the-lion-diet/

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 7/30/2024 at 12:28 PM, susanlea said:

Jordan Peterson claims all beef diet fixed his health problems including gum disease, depression and other things. I know beef has lots of nutrients but it isnt high in certain things. Mystery to me. 

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No, not 100% beef, this is what he actually claims...

" He advocates for consuming a variety of animal proteins, including beef, poultry, and fish, to ensure a well-rounded nutrient intake.

In addition to animal protein, Peterson emphasizes the importance of consuming an abundance of greens and vegetables. 

https://keto-daily.com/the-jordan-peterson-diet-a-comprehensive-guide-to-his-eating-habits/#:~:text=The Jordan Peterson Diet is,and maintain his mental clarity.

[StreetCowboy]

  On 7/30/2024 at 12:38 PM, 0ffshore360 said:

A jest ? Suggesting someone is a liar?

Your sense of humour  is ....sad.

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Better a sad sense of humour than none at all.

I would have described it as flippant, rather than sad.

I might not have dignified it with a comment, if I did not approve, nor understand.

[susanlea]

  On 7/30/2024 at 4:14 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

No, not 100% beef, this is what he actually claims...

" He advocates for consuming a variety of animal proteins, including beef, poultry, and fish, to ensure a well-rounded nutrient intake.

In addition to animal protein, Peterson emphasizes the importance of consuming an abundance of greens and vegetables. 

https://keto-daily.com/the-jordan-peterson-diet-a-comprehensive-guide-to-his-eating-habits/#:~:text=The Jordan Peterson Diet is,and maintain his mental clarity.

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That website is not his words. On a podcast he said beef and salt only.

[susanlea]

All beef he says

 

 

[susanlea]

 

 

"I eat beef and salt and I never cheat"

[Presnock]

  On 7/30/2024 at 4:14 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

No, not 100% beef, this is what he actually claims...

" He advocates for consuming a variety of animal proteins, including beef, poultry, and fish, to ensure a well-rounded nutrient intake.

In addition to animal protein, Peterson emphasizes the importance of consuming an abundance of greens and vegetables. 

https://keto-daily.com/the-jordan-peterson-diet-a-comprehensive-guide-to-his-eating-habits/#:~:text=The Jordan Peterson Diet is,and maintain his mental clarity.

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Now we get the "REST of the STORY"!  Yeah eating the right amount and not excess, can probably do wonders for some people including beef and based on stories in the news constantly, bad foods are being sold regularly that negatively affect anyone's health.  Everyone must decide what they want to eat, when, how much, etc and others should accept that!  IF one wants to be restricted in every way, go to N. Korea and they will take care of you.

[susanlea]

  On 7/31/2024 at 12:13 AM, Presnock said:

Now we get the "REST of the STORY"!  Yeah eating the right amount and not excess, can probably do wonders for some people including beef and based on stories in the news constantly, bad foods are being sold regularly that negatively affect anyone's health.  Everyone must decide what they want to eat, when, how much, etc and others should accept that!  IF one wants to be restricted in every way, go to N. Korea and they will take care of you.

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That website has no direct quotes from Peterson. They appear to be making things up.

[Presnock]

  On 7/31/2024 at 12:19 AM, susanlea said:

That website has no direct quotes from Peterson. They appear to be making things up.

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and, how is that different from most of the comments on this forum?  Some things are basically true while others seem to be true while many just seem to be trolll searching.  Diets are so personally consumed that it fits the troll category.  At 77, I know what is a good diet and what is garbage.  If people ate well/healthy then the developed world would not be filled with fat or obese people.  Besides eating to much beef would mean too many cows and that increases air pollution and tons of water use.  Choosing what to eat is one of the last total freedoms we can

experience these days.  Hopefully it is a healthy diet but look at Trump - an avid Mickey D's fast foods, he and his doctor say he is healthy and only weight 215 pounds!  Just look at him and decide if that is true.  ANYWAY, HAVE A GOOD ONE, ENJOY YOUR MEALS

[susanlea]

  On 7/31/2024 at 12:28 AM, Presnock said:

and, how is that different from most of the comments on this forum?  Some things are basically true while others seem to be true while many just seem to be trolll searching.  Diets are so personally consumed that it fits the troll category.  At 77, I know what is a good diet and what is garbage.  If people ate well/healthy then the developed world would not be filled with fat or obese people.  Besides eating to much beef would mean too many cows and that increases air pollution and tons of water use.  Choosing what to eat is one of the last total freedoms we can

experience these days.  Hopefully it is a healthy diet but look at Trump - an avid Mickey D's fast foods, he and his doctor say he is healthy and only weight 215 pounds!  Just look at him and decide if that is true.  ANYWAY, HAVE A GOOD ONE, ENJOY YOUR MEALS

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I'm interested in the truth. JP appears to be an honest person. What exactly does he eat? Did it cure gum disease etc? In podcasts he has said

 

Beef and salt

All meat mostly beef (plus salt)

 

He has made no mention of eggs and avocado.

 

I'm not sure about liver but his daughter has said she eats liver and a range of meats.

[susanlea]

  On 7/31/2024 at 12:28 AM, Presnock said:

Hopefully it is a healthy diet but look at Trump - an avid Mickey D's fast foods, he and his doctor say he is healthy and only weight 215 pounds!  Just look at him and decide if that is true.  ANYWAY, HAVE A GOOD ONE, ENJOY YOUR MEALS

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Yet Buffet eats ice cream daily at 93 and is doing well. I wonder how much meat he eats too.