Mystery Deepens: Missing British Man Boarded Flight from Thailand

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

 

I rather doubt that any airline would reveal passenger details to anyone other than authorized entities such as the police or immigration. The Sun newspaper hardly falls into that category.

 

 

 

I never said they should, but they should to his family, That is what is inexcusable.

[brianthainess]

At 6' 2" he should stand out in a crowd.......

[brianthainess]

22 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I didn't say he was sold . I said many are sold, daily actually. Trafficking also involves drug runners. I don't need TV to keep up on what goes on in the world. News, TV news, yahoo news, word of mouth are ways one sees what's going on worldwide. TV is for movies and series.

6' 2" and 27 he'd make a good slave. 

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

6' 2" and 27 he'd make a good slave. 

Skimming has you miss the rest of others posts, including the one that came before this one.................True, and hundreds are sold into slavery, murdered, kidnapped for ransom, and have accidents, so people who care for others actually worry

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, Wiggy said:

I agree.
Of course, they shouldn’t release details to any Tom, Dick or Harry, but I would think family members have the right to know if a loved one was on a particular flight. 

Unless he doesn't want anything to do with his family anymore for whatever reason.

[spidermike007]

Something about this story just doesn't sound right, either he was on the Finnair flight where he wasn't. How difficult would it be to make an inquiry with the airlines, and have them check the passenger manifest. I'm sure the police could do that in 15 minutes.

 

It is more likely that he stayed behind after he met a Pattaya gal who blew his mind, and he decided he just didn't want to come home and he simply does not know what to say at this point or how to excuse his behavior to his girlfriend or his parents. 

 

The ping could be answered very simply, he was ready to come home when he got another text message urgently asking him to return, as she really missed her sweetheart, and he fell back into the honeytrap. 

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, JoePai said:

Stopped off in Finland for a spot of berry picking ?

Sounds like he cut short his stay in Thailand, probably too much excitement, boarded a flight to Finland to get a reality check.

[tgw]

this bit already tells everything:

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as police on both sides haven’t done anything.

 

I bet police on both sides did something.

They checked what they could check, probably got him on CCTV and got his immigration checkout photo, and the Finns are also guaranteed to know where he went.

 

BUT

as he is a grown man over 18, his travels, visa status, passport details, entry and exit stamps and whereabouts are nobody's business but his own.

 

[BusyB]

1 hour ago, Wiggy said:

I agree.
Of course, they shouldn’t release details to any Tom, Dick or Harry, but I would think family members have the right to know if a loved one was on a particular flight. 

 

No.

[JeffersLos]

Finland?

 

He sold his soul to Santa?

[Wiggy]

10 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Unless he doesn't want anything to do with his family anymore for whatever reason.

Unlikely seeing that he had been in constant contact with his sister. 

[Jackbenimble]

55 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

He just vanished into Finnair!

best post today - thanks for the giggle.

[shackleton]

This is the problem with the British media newspapers like the Sun Mail ect 

If the story involves Thailand they are straight on it especially if it involves Pattaya Sex and Sleaze are good sellers of news 

[impulse]

14 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Something about this story just doesn't sound right, either he was on the Finnair flight where he wasn't. How difficult would it be to make an inquiry with the airlines, and have them check the passenger manifest. I'm sure the police could do that in 15 minutes.

I'm sure the cops could.  But then, they should be bound by privacy laws, not to release his personal information without his permission.  Even to his family.  He is of age...

[dundas]

I was once asked to track someone who hadn't turned up at his destination -- who just disappeared. Yes, he went through Immigration, and yes he boarded the plane (his family had connections so they were able to get this information). Turns out he was busted for drugs on arrival and disappeared for a week or so while the police investigated.  Not to join the army of online detectives here, but merely to recount the experience as a possibility in this case.  

[Captain Monday]

50 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I never said they should, but they should to his family, That is what is inexcusable.

When you are 27 years old grown man back in Englund  do you have to call home every night?

Airlines don't give out passenger information, it could be considered a danger or legal liability 

Even for family imagine a domestic violence situation and a man is looking to harm his wife who run off, or even his sister or daughter?

 

Ever heard of honour killings?

 

 

[john donson]

imagine he is in IDC

[josephbloggs]

11 minutes ago, john donson said:

imagine he is in IDC

 

Why would he be in there? As a Brit he would have got 60 day entry and he had been in the country four days - absolutely no reason for him to be in the IDC.

[John Drake]

The international response to this story likely has embarrassed this man so much that he'll be in hiding for months hoping it disappears.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The airline obviously know if he was on the flight, as the crew have to know who is on the plane, and to say they won't release that info is inexcusable, IMO.

The airline has no obligation to release that information to the press or public, they may well have released it to his family, as the article suggests.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Moonlover said:

So this 'poster' is fake. I was suspicious of this right from the start. What else is 'fake' about this story?

That was issued by the family, not by the police.

[tandor]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unless one believes in telportation, he either never boarded the plane or he disappeared between exiting the plane and border control.

 

The airline obviously know if he was on the flight, as the crew have to know who is on the plane, and to say they won't release that info is inexcusable, IMO.

its called Protocol, to protect the pasenger and the threat of Terrorism..his name would appear on the Passenger Manifest and is the property of the Airline and only discussed with the relevant Police Force.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Wiggy said:

Of course, they shouldn’t release details to any Tom, Dick or Harry, but I would think family members have the right to know if a loved one was on a particular flight. 

There has been no suggestion that the family were not provided with that information in view of his sister saying, categorically, that he boarded the Finnair flight.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The airline has no obligation to release that information to the press or public, they may well have released it to his family, as the article suggests.

If they had released it to the family this thread would not exist as there would be no mystery.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, tandor said:

its called Protocol, to protect the pasenger and the threat of Terrorism..his name would appear on the Passenger Manifest and is the property of the Airline and only discussed with the relevant Police Force.

The flight was over, so why would releasing the info as to whether he was on the flight be a threat of terrorism?

[Namplik]

Strange case 🤔

 

This guy living in Boston with his girlfriend, traveling the long way to Thailand alone for just one week, called back home and said he would come back early just after a few days in Thailand. 

What was his purpose going to Thailand? Business or pleasure? 

Where did he stay in Thailand? 

[tandor]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The flight was over, so why would releasing the info as to whether he was on the flight be a threat of terrorism?

the Manifest is available to the relevant Police as soon as the plane lands..i have no idea..someone's not telling the full story here IMO.

[PETERTHEEATER]

Is his name Simon or Fred?

[jogamonkseven]

1 hour ago, brianthainess said:

6' 2" and 27 he'd make a good slave. 

Probably have kidnapped for berry picking in Finland by Finnish berry company now when Thai people's are not allowed go anymore. It's possibly at he is in forest until winter and can not know what berry companies doing after it for slaves who have Schengen passport and no need send back to home country.

[Kerryd]

My theory stands.

He (possibly) sold his return ticket and (possibly) his passport to get more money to stay longer in Thailand.

Someone else, who for whatever reason didn't want to travel on their own passport, bought his passport and used it to board a flight to Finland and from there to who knows where.

Consider that on the missing MH370 flight 2 of the passengers were Iranians who'd supposedly bought "stolen" passports in Thailand and were trying to get to Germany (on a round-about route to avoid the Middle East it seems).
The "stolen" passports were from an Austrian and an Italian.

On my first trip here back in '93 I was told that if I "needed money" I could go to a pawn shop and sell my passport. (I was in the military and on leave from a peace-keeping mission in Croatia so there was no way I was going to do anything like that.)

10 years later I recall an article mentioning that a valid US passport could fetch up to $10,000. (While a valid Canadian one was apparently only worth $3,000 ! Discrimination !)

And no, it would not be the first time someone has gone bonkers during a holiday here.

While I was in Kabul in 2004, one of our firefighters took a 2 week trip to Phuket. This guy was one of "those guys" that the girls would go out of their way to catch a peek of. (We used to see a gaggle of women in the "female tent area" all trying to sneak peeks of the guy when he was sun-tanning on the Hesco barriers around the tents.)

During his trip he apparently fell in love (shocker) with the 3rd bar girl he met. He came back to Kabul, did his next 4 months and took his next trip to Thailand again.

The Deputy Project Manager asked me (as the company Security Officer) to go with him to check the guy's bedspace when he didn't return from his holiday. He'd cleaned it out and left a pair of worn socks and a print-out of a photo of him and a girl in a tuk-tuk.

He didn't give notice because the company was paying salaries "in arrears" so that if someone skipped out on their contracts the company could get the cost of their airfare back. But by pretending he was just going on holiday he was able to get his last paycheque before they realized he wasn't coming back.

And lol - the guy thought he'd just "start up a dive shop" in Krabi or something. And then found out it's not that easy. And when the love of his life realized he didn't have a job or anymore money - she left him !!
According to his friends back in Kabul, he had to resort to doing "odd jobs" under the table for a Canadian couple that owned a hotel and took pity on him. (And because he'd burnt his bridge with the company, there was no way he could come back and work with us again.)

All because of a woman he'd met on a 2 week holiday.