I'm confused, USA is now a communist country?

[Paradise Pete]

3 hours ago, susanlea said:

You want 6yos to drive trucks, drink alcohol and join armies? Like sex changes they should be for adults only. Amazing you can't even think through issues.

 

I don't know the answer, but I tried to find an example of a 6 year-old getting a sex change operation. I couldn't find any.

It's probably just my poor searching skills, so would you mind posting a few examples? Thanks, that'll be helpful.

 

[ChicagoExpat]

5 hours ago, HalAndLois said:

 

You make this entire site sound stupid with ridiculous accusations like this.  

Well, it's not ENTIRELY false.  There seems to be a strong correlation between support for Trump and support for Putin, a least.

[ChicagoExpat]

3 hours ago, soalbundy said:

There never has been a communist country, plenty of dictatorships claiming to be, even the Soviet Union didn't give itself the title communist, it was a dictatorship that called itself the Soviet Socialist Republic of Russia. (no, socialist doesn't equate with communist)

"REAL SOCIALISM (or COMMUNISM) HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED"

 

 

[spidermike007]

35 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Che became very dead in Peru was it?

He was eventually taken out by the CIA, from what we hear. Which was a beautiful assassination and something he earned. His good reputation and glory is mostly fictitious.

 

Che’s obsession with collectivist control led him to collaborate on the formation of the security apparatus that was set up to subjugate six and a half million Cubans. In early 1959, a series of secret meetings took place in Tarará, near Havana, at the mansion to which Che temporarily withdrew to recover from an illness. That is where the top leaders, including Castro, designed the Cuban police state. Ramiro Valdés, Che’s subordinate during the guerrilla war, was put in charge of G-2, a body modeled on the Cheka. Angel Ciutah, a veteran of the Spanish Civil War sent by the Soviets who had been very close to Ramón Mercader, Trotsky’s assassin, and later befriended Che, played a key role in organizing the system, together with Luis Alberto Lavandeira, who had served the boss at La Cabaña. Guevara himself took charge of G-6, the body tasked with the ideological indoctrination of the armed forces. The U.S.-backed Bay of Pigs invasion in April 1961 became the perfect occasion to consolidate the new police state, with the rounding up of tens of thousands of Cubans and a new series of executions. As Guevara himself told the Soviet ambassador Sergei Kudriavtsev, counterrevolutionaries were never “to raise their head again.”

 

This camp was the precursor to the eventual systematic confinement, starting in 1965 in the province of Camaguey, of dissidents, homosexuals, AIDS victims, Catholics, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Afro-Cuban priests, and other such scum, under the banner of Unidades Militares de Ayuda a la Producción, or Military Units to Help Production. Herded into buses and trucks, the “unfit” would be transported at gunpoint into concentration camps organized on the Guanahacabibes mold. Some would never return; others would be raped, beaten, or mutilated; and most would be traumatized for life, as Néstor Almendros’s wrenching documentary Improper Conduct showed the world a couple of decades ago.

 

https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=1535

 

 

[WDSmart]

No, the USA is not a communist country. Its economy is a combination of capitalism and socialism. The right-wingers want to move it more towards capitalism, and the left-wingers (like me) want to move it more towards socialism.

[john donson]

I thought trolling posts got a ban as reward... 

[susanlea]

1 hour ago, Paradise Pete said:

 

I don't know the answer, but I tried to find an example of a 6 year-old getting a sex change operation. I couldn't find any.

It's probably just my poor searching skills, so would you mind posting a few examples? Thanks, that'll be helpful.

 

I did got deleted.

[susanlea]

7 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, the USA is not a communist country. Its economy is a combination of capitalism and socialism. The right-wingers want to move it more towards capitalism, and the left-wingers (like me) want to move it more towards socialism.

Thailand is right wing. 

[AgMech Cowboy]

MSM, web content generators, AN commentors throw around labels like would mud and hope that it will stick. It's a sad commentary on civilized society.

[WDSmart]

40 minutes ago, susanlea said:

47 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, the USA is not a communist country. Its economy is a combination of capitalism and socialism. The right-wingers want to move it more towards capitalism, and the left-wingers (like me) want to move it more towards socialism.

Thailand is right wing. 

Thailand's government is a mix of a monarchy and a republic. The republic also seems right-wing to me. Its economy, like the USA's, is a mix of capitalism and socialism, but in Thailand, there is much more socialism. 

[susanlea]

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Thailand's government is a mix of a monarchy and a republic. The republic also seems right-wing to me. Its economy, like the USA's, is a mix of capitalism and socialism, but in Thailand, there is much more socialism. 

Socialism? Hardly any. Close to zero rule enforcement on road rules, environment. Very little unemployment and medical benefits. Lack of maternity benefits. Thailand is 90% right. Amusing lefties like it.

[WDSmart]

2 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Socialism? Hardly any. Close to zero rule enforcement on road rules, environment. Very little unemployment and medical benefits. Lack of maternity benefits. Thailand is 90% right. Amusing lefties like it.

I don't entirely understand your post. I don't understand what law enforcement has to do with socialism.

In pure socialism, there would be no unemployment because there would be no employment. Employment is a capitalistic feature. Maternity benefits are also a possible feature of employment under capitalism. In pure socialism, if someone is unable to work, they don't, but they still have access to all the state's resources they need. All citizens of Thailand have access to free (or very low-cost) medical benefits. That's what all the government hospitals are for.  

 

I judge Thaland's economy to be a mix of capitalism and socialism, a mix which is much farther left than the USA's economy.

I do agree that Thailand's government is more right-wing than the USA's, but that could change next year if You-Know-Who gets elected. If that happens, I fear we (the USA) are headed towards an autocratic plutocracy (rule of the rich).  

[susanlea]

4 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I don't entirely understand your post. I don't understand what law enforcement has to do with socialism.

In pure socialism, there would be no unemployment because there would be no employment. Employment is a capitalistic feature. Maternity benefits are also a possible feature of employment under capitalism. In pure socialism, if someone is unable to work, they don't, but they still have access to all the state's resources they need. All citizens of Thailand have access to free (or very low-cost) medical benefits. That's what all the government hospitals are for.  

 

I judge Thaland's economy to be a mix of capitalism and socialism, a mix which is much farther left than the USA's economy.

I do agree that Thailand's government is more right-wing than the USA's, but that could change next year if You-Know-Who gets elected. If that happens, I fear we (the USA) are headed towards an autocratic plutocracy (rule of the rich).  

You don't understand socialism then. 

[WDSmart]

1 minute ago, susanlea said:

You don't understand socialism then. 

Socialism is an economy in which everyone contributes according to their ability and receives what they need, as much as society can provide. Socialism is not, as most believe, a form of government. A socialist economy can exist under many forms of government, like a democracy, republic, or even a monarchy, but not a plutocracy.

[susanlea]

11 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

pure socialism, there would be no unemployment because there would be no employment.

Nobody works? 

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

Socialism is an economy in which everyone contributes according to their ability and receives what they need, as much as society can provide. Socialism is not, as most believe, a form of government. A socialist economy can exist under many forms of government, like a democracy, republic, or even a monarchy, but not a plutocracy.

Translation - rich pay for most things. Poor steal from the rich.

[WDSmart]

Just now, susanlea said:

12 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

pure socialism, there would be no unemployment because there would be no employment.

Nobody works? 

Nobody works for a wage, for money. Everyone contributes to the society as best they can.

[WDSmart]

1 minute ago, susanlea said:

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Socialism is an economy in which everyone contributes according to their ability and receives what they need, as much as society can provide. Socialism is not, as most believe, a form of government. A socialist economy can exist under many forms of government, like a democracy, republic, or even a monarchy, but not a plutocracy.

Translation - rich pay for most things. Poor steal from the rich.

There are no rich and no poor. Everyone contributes the best they can. Some can contribute much more than others. Some cannot contribute anything, but all receive what they need as long as society has the means to provide that.

Think of it like how a family works. 

[susanlea]

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Nobody works for a wage, for money. Everyone contributes to the society as best they can.

No cars and electricity under your system.

[susanlea]

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

There are no rich and no poor. Everyone contributes the best they can. Some can contribute much more than others. Some cannot contribute anything, but all receive what they need as long as society has the means to provide that.

Think of it like how a family works. 

Families often hate each and break up. 

[WDSmart]

1 minute ago, susanlea said:

5 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Nobody works for a wage, for money. Everyone contributes to the society as best they can.

No cars and electricity under your system.

Again, I don't understand your remark. People would develop technologies but not be rewarded extra for doing so. They would have their needs met like everyone else, even someone who was mentally retarded and could contribute nothing. That's socialism.

In the USA, anything that has "public" as part of its name is a socialistic feature, like public roads, public libraries, public hospitals, public parks, etc...

[WDSmart]

3 minutes ago, susanlea said:

6 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Think of it like how a family works. 

Families often hate each and break up. 

In my experience, that does not happen "often," but it does happen. That could happen in a socialistic society, but if it did, the society would, as you say, be broken and probably be dissolved. That could happen in any form of economy, though.

[bubblegum]

Suzy with every post you make you confirm how blind you are and will remain. BTW what is a fanatic right wing cultist like you doing in a country that has a third gender and celebrates rainbow parades?

[susanlea]

15 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

In my experience, that does not happen "often," but it does happen. That could happen in a socialistic society, but if it did, the society would, as you say, be broken and probably be dissolved. That could happen in any form of economy, though.

Nobody who works 80 hours a week wants to support someone who doesnt work. Socialism never works and kills millions.

[WDSmart]

3 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Nobody who works 80 hours a week wants to support someone who doesnt work. Socialism never works and kills millions.

I agree with that, but that is because humans are selfish. Socialism (communism, actually) should be our goal, but until we, as a society, respect and care for everyone regardless of their ability to contribute, it can never be fully enacted. We are not like an ideal human family where the breadwinners share everything with their children and fulfill their needs the best they can. We're more like a pride of lions, where, regardless of who kills the prey, the lead male eats until he's full, and then the rest of the pride fights over what's left. That's capitalism.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, john donson said:

I thought trolling posts got a ban as reward... 

I'll buy you a sense of humor for Christmas.

[bubblegum]

15 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Nobody who works 80 hours a week wants to support someone who doesnt work. Socialism never works and kills millions.

Yet you don't work ! Explain that.

[JoseThailand]

8 hours ago, susanlea said:

She supports 6yos having sex changes.

 

Talk about a man who has 'morals of an alley cat'

[bubblegum]

10 minutes ago, JoseThailand said:

 

Talk about a man who has 'morals of an alley cat'

Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

[JoseThailand]

27 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

 

Can you elaborate