Curing Alcoholic people

[gargamon]

17 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

sounds like you've been drinking, maybe an alcoholic?

Not yet. It's still early.

[proton]

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

Alcoholism is a disease like being fat is a disease. Merely a mental crutch to make the afflicted person feel better.

 

Quite correct its an addiction they don't say heroin addiction is a disease so why lie about boozers. AA is the last thing I would try, a God based self flagellation group with a low success rate. The idea that you cannot stop drinking without help from a higher power is another lie.

[Ralf001]

A friend in need and you kicked him in the teeth.

[scubascuba3]

7 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Quite correct its an addiction they don't say heroin addiction is a disease so why lie about boozers. AA is the last thing I would try, a God based self flagellation group with a low success rate. The idea that you cannot stop drinking without help from a higher power is another lie.

Some alcoholics don't like AA because they may stop you drinking. An alcoholic i know can't do it himself and won't go to AA so death will likely follow in the next few years, he's aging double speed now

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

A friend in need and you kicked him in the teeth.

 

a friend with weed is better...

 

 

[bob smith]

Alcohol is the cure.

 

bob.

[fredwiggy]

10 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Quite correct its an addiction they don't say heroin addiction is a disease so why lie about boozers. AA is the last thing I would try, a God based self flagellation group with a low success rate. The idea that you cannot stop drinking without help from a higher power is another lie.

It does work, at a good rate, especially when combined with hospital treatment first. AA is spiritual based and not religious. There are many Atheists that attend...........https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2746426/

[SAFETY FIRST]

34 minutes ago, bob smith said:

All you end up with is the 2nd rate hand me downs that Thai men don't want!

Probably same would happen if I was living in Australia. 

Hand me downs that Aussie men don't want. 

 

The best thing about Thailand, you can have a petite, young, beautiful woman for a little bit of a money. That won't happen in Australia. 

 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

Probably same would happen if I was living in Australia. 

Hand me downs that Aussie men don't want. 

 

The best thing about Thailand, you can have a petite, young, beautiful woman for a little bit of a money. That won't happen in Australia. 

 

True, but what you catch might stay with you a long time, or forever. And Australia, along with all other countries, has young, beautiful women for sale.

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

And Australia, along with all other countries, has young, beautiful women for sale.

Yeah, but most have bad breath, STI's and are smelly. 

 

I don't like white skin woman, they look sick. 

 

White women do not arouse me, I must take Viagra to have sex with them. 

 

 

[2baht]

21 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

What is your definition of fat?

For me? No, it happens to other people! Cancer keeps me nice and trim!

[bob smith]

7 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

The best thing about Thailand, you can have a petite, young, beautiful woman for a little bit of a money. That won't happen in Australia. 

Not as cheap as it used to be though apparently!

 

My mate tom ended up down soi cowboy last month and he said they were quoting 10,000 for long time.

 

ludicrous!

 

bob.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yeah, but most have bad breath, STI's and are smelly. 

 

I don't like white skin woman, they look sick. 

 

White women do not arouse me, I must take Viagra to have sex with them. 

 

 

Claiming most have bad breath STI's or are smelly means you've been with a lot, or are you saying, "I've had 3 women, and they're all smelly with bad breath and STI's? If you don't like white women, why bother using Viagra?. Better to let them be with someone who appreciates a woman no matter the skin color. White skin is cherished by many, especially here, as many Thais use whitening cream to look western. Problem is, it makes them look odd. Thais are supposed to be brown(ish).

[SAFETY FIRST]

7 minutes ago, bob smith said:

Not as cheap as it used to be though apparently!

 

My mate tom ended up down soi cowboy last month and he said they were quoting 10,000 for long time.

 

ludicrous!

 

bob.

Mate I haven't visited those sleezy, overpriced venues for many years now. 

The girls are beautiful but they've been brainwashed by the other bar girls, just in it for the money and most have a Thai bf. 

 

 

[proton]

18 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It does work, at a good rate, especially when combined with hospital treatment first. AA is spiritual based and not religious. There are many Atheists that attend...........https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2746426/

 

It is God based AA 12 steps, or lies

 

1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol — that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

 

 

 

 

[SAFETY FIRST]

21 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

True, but what you catch might stay with you a long time, or forever

This can happen with an Australian woman. 

 

11 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Claiming most have bad breath STI's or are smelly means you've been with a lot 

I was born in Australia, I've been with many Aussie chicks. 

 

11 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I've had 3 women, and they're all smelly with bad breath and STI's?

Sorry to hear mate, nothing worse than a smell, bad breathed girl with an Sti. 

I hope your luck improves. 

 

 

11 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

White skin is cherished by many,

Not me. 

 

[bob smith]

7 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Mate I haven't visited those sleezy, overpriced venues for many years now. 

The girls are beautiful but they've been brainwashed by the other bar girls, just in it for the money and most have a Thai bf. 

 

 

where do you get your bargain bucket thai beauties from then?

 

care to share?

 

bob.

[fredwiggy]

12 minutes ago, proton said:

 

It is God based AA 12 steps, or lies

 

1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol — that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

 

 

 

 

Started by Christians, who use God as a helping tool, but again, they accept everyone, including Atheists, and it's more a spiritual thing, knowing you can help yourself if you really want to.I know a few friends that attended, and stopped or curtailed their drinking, and God was never pushed on them nor anyone else while they attended.

[fredwiggy]

14 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

This can happen with an Australian woman. 

 

I was born in Australia, I've been with many Aussie chicks. 

 

Sorry to hear mate, nothing worse than a smell, bad breathed girl with an Sti. 

I hope your luck improves. 

 

 

Not me. 

 

That wasn't about me, but putting you into a quote, Claiming most have bad breath STI's or are smelly means you've been with a lot, "or are you saying, "I've had 3 women, and they're all smelly with bad breath and STI's? Some here assume all and what they mean is the ones they've been with. .. ..... As far as me personally, I've been with many women and not one had an STI. A few had bad breath at times, as everyone does. Ongoing is a problem. 

[fredwiggy]

16 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

This can happen with an Australian woman. 

 

I was born in Australia, I've been with many Aussie chicks. 

 

Sorry to hear mate, nothing worse than a smell, bad breathed girl with an Sti. 

I hope your luck improves. 

 

 

Not me. 

 

STI's can happen with many women, but with hookers your chances are way higher of catching something.  Like I said, if you don't like white women, leave them to the billions that do, they won't miss you.

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

STI's can happen with many women, but with hookers your chances are way higher of catching something.  Like I said, if you don't like white women, leave them to the billions that do, they won't miss you.

Disagree,

STDs are more prevalent in countries where you are required to pay a doctor to get antibiotics.

In Thailand you can buy Moxy for 40bht from any pharmacy.

[steven100]

1 hour ago, bob smith said:

come off it, SAFETY.

 

All you end up with is the 2nd rate hand me downs that Thai men don't want!

 

Really beautiful Thai women wouldn't give you the time of day.

 

bob.

you make a good point ....

I've come to the conclusion that Thailand is not the place to meet a lady, partner, gf, bf or whatever ... they've been through the mill.  

Anyone who would even remotely get involved is thinking what can they get outta you.  

They all have thai bf's or gf's and have probably had several close farangs before. 

It only stands to reason,  with hundreds of tourists staying here year after year and mingling from place to place the chances of meeting an honest, decent and at least slightly educated person are virtually zero imo.   

[KannikaP]

4 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

It's in the genes, these weak people are not wired up correctly, birth defects. 

 

It's how we are made, this weakness is handed down from your parents. 

 

Nature loads the gun, environment pulls the trigger. 

 

What you should be doing is modifying the DNA ladder before birth. 

 

I'm one of the lucky ones, good genes. 

 

The only addiction I have is beautiful, Thai women. 

 

 

What utter baloney.

[bob smith]

5 minutes ago, steven100 said:

you make a good point ....

I've come to the conclusion that Thailand is not the place to meet a lady, partner, gf, bf or whatever ... they've been through the mill.  

Anyone who would even remotely get involved is thinking what can they get outta you.  

They all have thai bf's or gf's and have probably had several close farangs before. 

It only stands to reason,  with hundreds of tourists staying here year after year and mingling from place to place the chances of meeting an honest, decent and at least slightly educated person are virtually zero imo.   

I found a good one.

 

Her name is mrs smith. She is well educated, good job, loadsa dough and she let's me do whatever I want.

 

She isn't, however, a typical hi-so thai girl that most thai men lust after. She doesn't have white skin, her parents aren't chinese and she doesn't have a million instagram followers or a boat.

 

bob.

[KannikaP]

42 minutes ago, proton said:

 

It is God based AA 12 steps, or lies

 

1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol — that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

 

 

 

 

And if you are an Atheist like me???? Or a Muslim or Buddhist who has gone astray.

[fredwiggy]

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Disagree,

STDs are more prevalent in countries where you are required to pay a doctor to get antibiotics.

In Thailand you can buy Moxy for 40bht from any pharmacy.

STI's can be caught by most anyone, as women that aren't loose can also get one, as can men. My point is that your chances of getting an STI from a prostitute is much higher than from a normal women. That's a well know fact. Medicines can help when you get an STI, but are not a guarantee against getting one.

[SAFETY FIRST]

45 minutes ago, bob smith said:

where do you get your bargain bucket thai beauties from then?

 

care to share?

 

bob.

Dating apps 

 

[fredwiggy]

19 minutes ago, steven100 said:

you make a good point ....

I've come to the conclusion that Thailand is not the place to meet a lady, partner, gf, bf or whatever ... they've been through the mill.  

Anyone who would even remotely get involved is thinking what can they get outta you.  

They all have thai bf's or gf's and have probably had several close farangs before. 

It only stands to reason,  with hundreds of tourists staying here year after year and mingling from place to place the chances of meeting an honest, decent and at least slightly educated person are virtually zero imo.   

Another assumption based on personal opinions. Many here have good wives and girlfriends, and living in another country doesn't exempt you from gold diggers. A poor country has more looking for someone to take better care of them , as the locals many times fail. All do not have Thai boyfriends. and some have never been near a farang. My own girlfriend was married to a useless local who didn't work or support his family, tried to sell her to his friend, and abused her. I'm the second man in her life and she said in the beginning she would never be with another Thai. I hear this many times and it's not all about the cash. Stay out of tourist areas and your chances of meeting a woman not through the wringer is better.

[bob smith]

3 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Dating apps 

 

they are full of hookers and 99% of them are ugly.

 

they are mostly freelancers who can't get a job working in the bars.

 

bob.

[fredwiggy]

11 minutes ago, bob smith said:

I found a good one.

 

Her name is mrs smith. She is well educated, good job, loadsa dough and she let's me do whatever I want.

 

She isn't, however, a typical hi-so thai girl that most thai men lust after. She doesn't have white skin, her parents aren't chinese and she doesn't have a million instagram followers or a boat.

 

bob.

Listen to your words Bob. A keeper should never be subjected to you being around other women, as they are the hardest thing a man can find on earth.