Kennedy gives Swing voters a clear choice, Trump

[maesariang]

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

At least way better than Pink, whose performance made little children cry from cringe.

Pink has turned to brown.

[Cameroni]

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

Nothing wrong with Kwanzaa, why should the death cult fans have all the fun? Since you brought it up, why does everyone think it is christian to support a thief, rapist and adulterer? Aren't they forgetting a few of their 10 rules?

 

I prefer Christmas, it's a lovely time of year, candles, presents, the family gathering around a roast bird, beautiful German music playing, what could be better?

 

As for your totally uncalled for defamatory statement of Donald J Trump, he's of course neither a thief, nor a rapist. Possibly an adulterer, yes, but what man is perfect? Let he, or her, who is without sin throw the first stone...

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

I prefer Christmas, it's a lovely time of year, candles, presents, the family gathering around a roast bird, beautiful German music playing, what could be better?

 

As for your totally uncalled for defamatory statement of Donald J Trump, he's of course neither a thief, nor a rapist. Possibly an adulterer, yes, but what man is perfect? Let he, or her, who is without sin throw the first stone...

 

 

Thud.

 

 

[cjinchiangrai]

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

I prefer Christmas, it's a lovely time of year, candles, presents, the family gathering around a roast bird, beautiful German music playing, what could be better?

 

As for your totally uncalled for defamatory statement of Donald J Trump, he's of course neither a thief, nor a rapist. Possibly an adulterer, yes, but what man is perfect? Let he, or her, who is without sin throw the first stone...

Sorry, the record shows otherwise. It is also your dear leader that is clearly the master of defamation.

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

The thing about morals is, they're all about perspective. For Harrisworld a woman who sent an innocement man to death row, then refused him the right to get new DNA evidence heard is morally acceptable. 

 

However, for most right thinking, red-blooded and normal people, that is considerably worse than even adultery.

 

Morals are about perspective.....like one death is a tragedy ....10,000 a statistic.....????

[cjinchiangrai]

3 minutes ago, maesariang said:

No policies

No interviews

No debates

No accountability

 

Harrisettes just don't care...phfft

Good one comrade, didn't see that one coming. Trump had policies but then denied he knew about 2025, That does not leave much but invective and whining about how everyone is being mean to him.

[cjinchiangrai]

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

The thing about morals is, they're all about perspective. For Harrisworld a woman who sent an innocement man to death row, then refused him the right to get new DNA evidence heard is morally acceptable. 

 

However, for most right thinking, red-blooded and normal people, that is considerably worse than even adultery.

But not better than killing thousands of Covid patients by lying to them.

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

But not better than killing thousands of Covid patients by lying to them.

 

I am on record for wanting all politicians brought to justice over their negligent handlng of Covid and causing the lockdowns which resulted in 2 Trillion USD being destroyed worldwide and which were wholly unnecessary. However, politicians in Italy and Britain, who after China were the first Western countries to put in place extreme lockdowns, should be the first to go to trial. 

[riclag]

46 minutes ago, maesariang said:

JFK would be proud. A man of intregity stands up to the elites.

He starts off by talking to  a group 

In the media and than works his way to Marx.

 

“Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack”. 

 

 

https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/american-newspaper-publishers-association-19610427

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Now you're sounding more like Trump than m.

 

Are you in competition with him?

 

I would not be that immodest to consider myself competition for a billionaire former president of the United States, no far from it. I was just explaining the simple principle that morality is perspective based on a parable published by Arthur Shopenhauer, the wonderful German Buddhist moralist and philosopher. Albeit, slightly  modified geographically for your good self.

 

 

[Will B Good]

 

 

 

No wonder Trump keeps saying he loves thick, white American guys.......

 

 

 

 

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

He starts off by talking to  a group 

In the media and than works his way to Marx.

 

“Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack”. 

 

 

https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/american-newspaper-publishers-association-19610427

 

Your links are really top quality, as always. Great read.

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I am on record for wanting all politicians brought to justice over their negligent handlng of Covid and causing the lockdowns which resulted in 2 Trillion USD being destroyed worldwide and which were wholly unnecessary. However, politicians in Italy and Britain, who after China were the first Western countries to put in place extreme lockdowns, should be the first to go to trial. 

 

...but not any considered trying to foment an insurrection.....mmmm.....I see what you mean about morals and perspective.

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

No wonder Trump keeps saying he loves thick, white American guys.......

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, clearly there should be a tax just on white men.

 

Many at the DNC supported that.

 

 

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

...but not any considered trying to foment an insurrection.....mmmm.....I see what you mean about morals and perspective.

 

Trump never tried to forment an insurrection, once again truth has departed the room in favour of political propaganda. In reality, Trump explicitly told the protestors to go home. Bit of a strange insurrection plan, to tell the people to go home. I mean, come on.

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, clearly there should be a tax just on white men.

 

Many at the DNC supported that.

 

 

 

 

 

Only the thick ones though?

 

 

 

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Trump never tried to forment an insurrection, once again truth has departed the room in favour of political propaganda. In reality, Trump explicitly told the protestors to go home. Bit of a strange insurrection plan, to tell the people to go home. I mean, come on.

 

 

🤣

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

Only the thick ones though?

 

 

 

Riclag posted a video of this, there was an Ali G type guy at the DNC who suggested they put in place a tax on white men only. Four out of five women at the DNC agreed. Hilarious to watch, I would link to it if I had it at hand.

Edited August 25 by Cameroni

[cjinchiangrai]

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Trump never tried to forment an insurrection, once again truth has departed the room in favour of political propaganda. In reality, Trump explicitly told the protestors to go home. Bit of a strange insurrection plan, to tell the people to go home. I mean, come on.

No, he told them to go to the capitol and he would be with them.

[Cameroni]

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

No, he told them to go to the capitol and he would be with them.

 

You're beating a dead horse that will never fly. Trump told them to go home.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-calls-for-peace-tells-protesters-to-go-home-idUSKBN29B2UT/

[Fat is a type of crazy]

1 hour ago, maesariang said:

Harris has dodged

 

-war

-visiting the border much

- policies

- interviews

- debates

 

Kamala the artful dodger

Kamala has been in this position for a month. Takes time to formulate her own policies and take on the role she has bravely taken on - but what an amazing job she's done so far. 

But internet boy calls her fat and ugly and a bag of rice whatever that means on different threads. Sad. 

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

You're correct .....totally innocent.....oh wait.....

 

The evidence that Donald Trump attempted to foment an insurrection primarily revolves around events leading up to and on January 6, 2021, when a mob of his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol. The evidence comes from various sources, including his actions, communications, speeches, and testimonies from key witnesses. Here are some of the major pieces of evidence:

### 1. **Trump's Speech on January 6, 2021**
   - Trump delivered a speech at the "Save America" rally on January 6, 2021, where he encouraged his supporters to march to the Capitol. He used phrases like "fight like hell" and repeated false claims that the 2020 election was stolen.
   - He told the crowd, "We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women."

### 2. **Pressure on Vice President Mike Pence**
   - Trump pressured Vice President Mike Pence to reject the certification of Electoral College votes during the joint session of Congress on January 6. Pence repeatedly stated he did not have the constitutional authority to do so, but Trump publicly criticized him for not intervening.

### 3. **The "Big Lie" and False Election Claims**
   - Trump continuously and falsely claimed that the 2020 election was stolen due to widespread fraud. He promoted these claims in the weeks leading up to January 6, including through tweets and public statements, which incited anger among his supporters.

### 4. **Communication with Key Allies**
   - Evidence suggests Trump communicated with key allies and advisors about strategies to overturn the election results. This includes discussions about using legal challenges and encouraging state legislatures to appoint alternate slates of electors.

### 5. **Response to the Capitol Riot**
   - During the attack on the Capitol, Trump was slow to respond to calls to quell the violence. He initially resisted calls from advisors and lawmakers to publicly condemn the rioters and only issued a statement after significant pressure. Even then, he told the rioters, "We love you. You're very special," while reiterating false claims about the election being stolen.

### 6. **House Select Committee Investigation**
   - The House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol collected testimonies and documents that provided further insights into Trump's role. Testimonies from former White House staff, including those from Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to then-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, indicated that Trump was aware the crowd was armed and wanted to lead them to the Capitol.

### 7. **Trump's Actions Post-Election**
   - Trump's efforts to overturn the election results included attempts to influence state officials, such as his call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, in which Trump urged Raffensperger to "find" enough votes to change the outcome in Georgia.

These pieces of evidence have been used by various legal and congressional bodies to argue that Trump played a role in fomenting the insurrection, even if he did not directly orchestrate the violence that occurred. The question of whether these actions constitute a criminal conspiracy or insurrection is part of ongoing legal debates and investigations.

 

At first he told them to go there, to protest peacefully. He never planned any insurrection, as you well know. Don't make a fool of yourself, it would be unbecoming for such a fine man.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

At first he told them to go there, to protest peacefully. He never planned any insurrection, as you well know. Don't make a fool of yourself, it would be unbecoming for such a fine man.

 

 

You are a gentleman and a scholar.

[cjinchiangrai]

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You're beating a dead horse that will never fly. Trump told them to go home.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-calls-for-peace-tells-protesters-to-go-home-idUSKBN29B2UT/

Hours after the riot started 

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[riclag]

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Your links are really top quality, as always. Great read.

Indeed !  It seems the media has lost its way! Rfk jr eludes to this !
The media excluding him from interviews.

 

 

 

“ I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed”.

 

same source

 

Edited August 25 by riclag

[cjinchiangrai]

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

At first he told them to go there, to protest peacefully. He never planned any insurrection, as you well know. Don't make a fool of yourself, it would be unbecoming for such a fine man.

A grand Jury did not indict him for quelling the violence.

[Cameroni]

4 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

A grand Jury did not indict him for quelling the violence.

 

Even Special Counsel Jack Smith did not dare indict Trump for insurrection.  Only fools or outright liars would claim Trump planned and executed an insurrection. Those of us who lived through the events know full well Trump told protestors to go home. A rather strange insurrection playbook that would be.

 

https://www.semafor.com/article/08/02/2023/donald-trump-indictment-jack-smith-insurrection-charge

[cjinchiangrai]

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Even Special Counsel Jack Smith did not dare indict Trump for insurrection.  Only fools or outright liars would claim Trump planned and executed an insurrection. Those of us who lived through the events know full well Trump told protestors to go home. A rather strange insurrection playbook that would be.

 

https://www.semafor.com/article/08/02/2023/donald-trump-indictment-jack-smith-insurrection-charge

Except for the meetings his staff had with the oath keepers and the tours provided by the GQP members of congress.

[Cameroni]

15 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Except for the meetings his staff had with the oath keepers and the tours provided by the GQP members of congress.

 

Like I said, you're beating a dead horse that will never fly.

 

If there were even the slightest chance of nailing Trump for insurrection, trust me the Democrat  controlled judiciary attack dogs like Jack Smith would have done so. Even he did not dare accuse Trump of insurrection.

 

So best to let this one go, you're just going to embarass yourself.