Harris upsets Gold Star families

[maesariang]

Just now, Roo Island said:

As do you

I post facts. You have no idea what the facts ever are.

[Roo Island]

3 minutes ago, maesariang said:

I post facts. You have no idea what the facts ever are.

Funniest post I've read all day! You posting facts!

[maesariang]

3 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Funniest post I've read all day! You posting facts!

Why bother responding if you cannot have a mature conversation. 90% of the posts on here are just drivel.

[Roo Island]

4 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Why bother responding if you cannot have a mature conversation. 90% of the posts on here are just drivel.

You are responsible for 90% of them

[jerrymahoney]

Earlier this month, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s campaign contacted military officials about visiting Arlington National Cemetery to mark the third anniversary of the Islamic State bombing that killed 13 U.S. service members during the evacuation from Afghanistan.

 

Federal law prohibits election-related activities at military cemeteries, and Arlington is the most prestigious and sacred of all. Pentagon officials were deeply concerned about the former president turning the visit into a campaign stop, but they also didn’t want to block him from coming, according to Defense Department officials and internal messages reviewed by The Washington Post.

 

Officials said they wanted to respect the wishes of grieving family members who wanted Trump there, but at the same time were wary of Trump’s record of politicizing the military. So they laid out ground rules they hoped would wall off politics from the final resting place of those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for their nation.

Instead, they got sucked into exactly the kind of crisis they were hoping to avoid.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/28/trump-arlington-cemetery-section-60/

[riclag]

7 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Earlier this month, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s campaign contacted military officials about visiting Arlington National Cemetery to mark the third anniversary of the Islamic State bombing that killed 13 U.S. service members during the evacuation from Afghanistan.

 

Federal law prohibits election-related activities at military cemeteries, and Arlington is the most prestigious and sacred of all. Pentagon officials were deeply concerned about the former president turning the visit into a campaign stop, but they also didn’t want to block him from coming, according to Defense Department officials and internal messages reviewed by The Washington Post.

 

Officials said they wanted to respect the wishes of grieving family members who wanted Trump there, but at the same time were wary of Trump’s record of politicizing the military. So they laid out ground rules they hoped would wall off politics from the final resting place of those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for their nation.

Instead, they got sucked into exactly the kind of crisis they were hoping to avoid.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/28/trump-arlington-cemetery-section-60/

More nonsense from “ officials  said”

on a site i can’t access !

It ok Jerry ,the Speaker intervened!

[riclag]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

More nonsense from “ officials  said”

on a site i can’t access !

It ok Jerry ,the Speaker intervened!

So now we got Gold Star Parents who blame harris/ for their kids death 

and harris & unknown officials criticizing who they can invite to grieve , with them! 

[jerrymahoney]

The Speaker does not have the right to waive Federal Law. House Oversight Commitee has requested the Army incident report by next week.

[riclag]

1 minute ago, jerrymahoney said:

The Speaker does not have the right to waive Federal Law. House Oversight Commitee has requested the Army incident report by next week.

He has a host of advisers Jerry , you have WP and officials, of unknown political bias!

 

[jerrymahoney]

I'll wait to see if the Army complies with the House incident report request.

Given the 21 second campaign TikTok video taken 10 seconds at Section 60 it can be said the purpose in part was to provide political content for the Trump campaign Edited September 2 by jerrymahoney

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, NativeBob said:

War criminals are not same-same "men serving their county" darling. 

you no learn much in school, chai-mai?

First insults, now idiocy.

 

Lay down Leonardo.  

[LosLobo]

Josef Goebbels, the Nazi propagandist who championed the 'big lie,' famously used the tactic of blaming others for what you yourself are guilty of.

Similarly, Trump has sought to deflect responsibility for the disastrous 2021 Afghan withdrawal and distance himself from his past controversies with military families. By shifting blame, Trump attempts to rewrite history and avoid accountability for his actions.
 

Trump's presidency, driven by his psychopathic narcissism, was marked by a troubling lack of empathy, particularly in his disrespect towards Gold Star families and the military.

He suggested that Gold Star families were responsible for his COVID-19 infection and called fallen soldiers 'losers' and 'suckers.'

He repeatedly insulted military heroes like John McCain, criticized the Khan family after their son’s death in Iraq, and dismissed top generals as "dopes and babies."

His refusal to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery and his attacks on decorated veterans like Admiral William McRaven and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman further exemplify his disdain for those who served.

Even his recent disrespectful rhetoric about the Medal of Honor underscores a deeply troubling pattern of behavior unworthy of any future Commander-in-Chief.

[NativeBob]

18 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

military heroes like John McCain

That's a good one!

19 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman

No, this one is even better! 

 

You've made my day, sir!

[maesariang]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

Josef Goebbels, the Nazi propagandist who championed the 'big lie,' famously used the tactic of blaming others for what you yourself are guilty of.

Similarly, Trump has sought to deflect responsibility for the disastrous 2021 Afghan withdrawal and distance himself from his past controversies with military families. By shifting blame, Trump attempts to rewrite history and avoid accountability for his actions.
 

Trump's presidency, driven by his psychopathic narcissism, was marked by a troubling lack of empathy, particularly in his disrespect towards Gold Star families and the military.

He suggested that Gold Star families were responsible for his COVID-19 infection and called fallen soldiers 'losers' and 'suckers.'

He repeatedly insulted military heroes like John McCain, criticized the Khan family after their son’s death in Iraq, and dismissed top generals as "dopes and babies."

His refusal to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery and his attacks on decorated veterans like Admiral William McRaven and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman further exemplify his disdain for those who served.

Even his recent disrespectful rhetoric about the Medal of Honor underscores a deeply troubling pattern of behavior unworthy of any future Commander-in-Chief.

That is orginal. Choose a nazi that wasn't Hitler. 1 point for trying, zero for content.

[LosLobo]

15 minutes ago, maesariang said:

That is orginal. Choose a nazi that wasn't Hitler. 1 point for trying, zero for content.

Originality is something lacking in MagaWorld, which only seems to echo the Master's and Fox's rhetoric.

Nevertheless, Hitler seems to still be Trump's poster boy, 

'In the past, he's actually acknowledged owning a copy of the book' (Mein Kampf).

Donald Trump's history with Adolf Hitler and his Nazi writings: ANALYSIS - ABC News (go.com)

Edited September 2 by LosLobo

[Roo Island]

Any way you cut it. Laws were broken. Someone should be held accountable

[Yellowtail]

16 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Originality is something lacking in MagaWorld, which only seems to echo the Master's and Fox's rhetoric.

Nevertheless, Hitler seems to still be Trump's poster boy, 

'In the past, he's actually acknowledged owning a copy of the book' (Mein Kampf).

Donald Trump's history with Adolf Hitler and his Nazi writings: ANALYSIS - ABC News (go.com)

Do you not think it makes sense for every world leader, and most anyone interested in politics to read Mein Kampf? 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Any way you cut it. Laws were broken. Someone should be held accountable

So you think Biden should be prosecuted for the classified documents he stole? 

[Roo Island]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So you think Biden should be prosecuted for the classified documents he stole? 

Sad deflection. But, should be up to the justice system to decide. And they passed

[Roo Island]

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you not think it makes sense for every world leader, and most anyone interested in politics to read Mein Kampf? 

No. Kinda like reading the manifesto of any mass murder and nutter

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

No. Kinda like reading the manifesto of any mass murder and nutter

And you do not think people in law enforcment should read the manifestos of mass murderers. 

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Sad deflection. But, should be up to the justice system to decide. And they passed

But laws were broken, certainly someone should pay!

[maesariang]

35 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Originality is something lacking in MagaWorld, which only seems to echo the Master's and Fox's rhetoric.

Nevertheless, Hitler seems to still be Trump's poster boy, 

'In the past, he's actually acknowledged owning a copy of the book' (Mein Kampf).

Donald Trump's history with Adolf Hitler and his Nazi writings: ANALYSIS - ABC News (go.com)

Rather sad when grown adults revert to Hitler stuff a mass murderer. Trump is anti war unlike Harris.

 

That ABC piece is junk city. Pure trash.

 

 

Edited September 2 by maesariang

[Roo Island]

29 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And you do not think people in law enforcment should read the manifestos of mass murderers. 

Trump isn't in law enforcement. He's a real estate conman and reality tv show actor.

[Roo Island]

26 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Rather sad when grown adults revert to Hitler stuff a mass murderer. Trump is anti war unlike Harris.

 

That ABC piece is junk city. Pure trash.

 

 

How many did Hitler kill? Definitely a mass murderer and total nutter. No wonder Trump likes him

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Trump isn't in law enforcement. He's a real estate conman and reality tv show actor.

Do really know so little about the duties of the President of the United States? 

 

The President has a constitutional requirement to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." which makes him the top-ranking law enforcer in the country. 

 

Remember, the Attorney General is appointed by, reports to, and serves at the pleasure of the President. 

 

You seem extremely intelligent and well informed, I'm surprised you did not know that. 

[Lacessit]

I guess this is the counter-narrative to Trump and his crew having no respect for the law, or decency.

[Social Media]

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[LosLobo]

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you not think it makes sense for every world leader, and most anyone interested in politics to read Mein Kampf? 

Funny how my recent posts about Hitler and Goebbels' propaganda have generated so much hype with so few words—and so many illogical fallacies:

• Red Herring: By shifting the focus to the general practice of reading "Mein Kampf" for educational purposes, you divert attention from the specific concern about Trump's use of the text and its implications. This red herring distracts from the original criticism regarding Trump’s references to Hitler and how they may reflect on his political stance.

• False Equivalence: Your argument implies that because it is reasonable for leaders and politically interested individuals to read "Mein Kampf" for educational purposes, it is equally reasonable to overlook the potential implications of Trump's acknowledgment of owning a copy. This creates a false equivalence between the academic study of historical texts and the potential endorsement or association with problematic ideologies.

• Appeal to Tradition: The response suggests that it makes sense for leaders and politically interested individuals to read "Mein Kampf" as if it’s a standard practice. This appeal to tradition assumes that because something has been done or accepted in the past, it is inherently justified or acceptable, without addressing the specific concerns about how Trump’s use of the text might be perceived.

• Straw Man: By framing the argument as whether it makes sense for anyone to read "Mein Kampf," you might be misrepresenting the original critique, which is more about the potential implications of Trump's references rather than the general practice of reading historical texts.

You try to weaken the argument by shifting the focus and failing to address the specific concerns raised about Trump’s use of the text.

[Silencer]

Let's see. Trump has...called former President George Bush (WW2) and former Sen. McCain (Vietnam) "losers" for being shot down. He called those who fought on D-Day "suckers" for participating in a war that had no personal gain for them and "losers" for being killed. Then he criticized Gen. Milley for having a wounded veteran sing the national anthem at his ceremony to become Chief of the Joint Chiefs asking "why would you have someone like that" at your ceremony. Lastly he avoided the cemetery (on right, it was the weather!) in Normandy (filled with losers) and avoided a photo with an soldier amputee. Tell me again how proud and respectful Trump is to soldiers and veterans? The Arlington Cemetery is blown up but his campaign were told no photos to be used for political purposes.

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