Swift endorsement turns more voters from harris than it attracts…

[MalcolmB]

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Everything about the con-man referred to as Trump is unlikeable.

Tens of millions of Americans vote and love him.

He wouldn’t make the cut in any other country.

What is it about you Americans that makes it possible for a person you have described to be voted in as president?

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1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

According to one so-called 'Postural Alignment Specialist', who goes by Posture Mike on TikTok, Swift, who stands between 5'10 and 5'11, has a 'rounded upper back', which can cause the head to hang forward, resulting in a hump-like appearence. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13855533/Taylor-Swifts-Experts-bad-posture-transformation.html

 

Rather than play politics she'd be better advised to do some yoga and focus on her posture. A hump -like appearance like a Gollum is a more serious problem for her than who wins the US presidential election, I'd hazard a guess.

If you had actually  bothered to read the article you would know that her "rounded back" is a thing of the past. The "experts" cited, were speculating about what she did to correct it.

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So because Mariah Carey isn't happy, that means Taylor Swift won't be happy either? 

 

Look, all women like to feel attractive, but for female pop singers who live not off their voice, but off their physical attractiveness, when the physical decline sets in and they are no longer popular, well imagine what a shock that must be when you were loved by everyone?

 

It's enough to make anyone unhappy.

 

Even if they have billions, the feeling of being unloved makes them unhappy and Mariah Carey is just the latest example of this.

Edited September 17 by Cameroni

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

There is no  actual evidence to support your position.A questionable poll rushed out to help Trump is not reliable.

On the other hand the hundreds of millions of fans  outnumber the  geriatric fans of  78 year old  Trump.

Unlike Trump,  Taylor Swift is a real billionaire and recognized as a brilliant business person. No bankruptcies ever.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/02/21/taylor-swift-was-the-biggest-artist-in-the-world-in-2023officially/

haha, another 'Swiftie newbee' gushing over a singer he couldn't name 1 song of.

 

you know she has a management team, she doesn't do it on her own. 

 

Trump has been around for decades, has multiple businsses, properties and golf courses etc etc

[Thingamabob]

On 9/16/2024 at 2:59 AM, farang51 said:

 

I am sure the usual suspects in here will agree with you if they saw the answers to some of the other questions in the poll. The poll had a lot of questions, not only about Taylor Swift; however, for some reason the New York Post did not mention all of them in that article. For instance, they did not mention who the poll said won the debate:

4. Who do you think won Tuesday’s presidential debate?
Kamala Harris . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46%
Donald Trump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19%
A tie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9%
Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12%
 

https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/documents/Reactions_to_Harris_Trump_Debate_poll_results.pdf

Dream on...

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Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Look, all women like to feel attractive, but for female pop singers who live not off their voice, but off their physical attractiveness, when the physical decline sets in and they are no longer popular, well imagine what a shock that must be when you were loved by everyone?

 

It's enough to make anyone unhappy.

Given that you are clearly unfamiliar with her work, why should anyone even trust your judgement? If you read the lyrics from her songs, you'll see that the are usually smart, witty, and sometimes even funny.  As for her voice, she uses what's she's got to great effect.  So, no, it isn't just about her looks. John Lennon didn't have a great voice either. But somehow, when it comes to women, the bar is set much higher.

 

And thanks for the cliche's about female pop singers. You've done a survey?

[steevjee]

On 9/15/2024 at 3:10 PM, riclag said:

Good news to hear , The vibe didn’t get a good response.
 

 “new post-debate poll from YouGov released Saturday found that 8% of voters said the pop superstar’s nod is either “somewhat” or “much more likely” to convince them to cast their ballot for the Democrat”.

 

“ a whopping 20% said they are “somewhat” or “much less likely” to vote for former President Donald Trump’s opponent now that Swift has spoken”.

https://nypost.com/2024/09/14/us-news/more-voters-to-vote-against-harris-than-for-after-swift-endorsement-poll/
 

Gotta love these fairy tales 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

19 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

She definitely has a better voice than Taylor Swift. Did Lady Gaga dress like a stripper and act like a total prostitute in her early music videos? Yes, she did, she pretended to be a sex-pot and sell records that way, much like Swift, but more extreme, only to turn around and claim to be serious artiste.

 

. Ironically Lady Gaga actually had more talent than Swift. And surprisingly only half of Swift's boyfriends, well 6 we know about, so probably 18.

 

Anyway, we look at Mariah Carey and feel so very sorry for Pop divas. It's so sad when the looks go and nobody wants to know anymore.

You see what you see. A big part of her appeal was freedom,  inclusiveness, support amongst the Little Monster fanbase, nice things happy things, not gonna attract a 59 year old guy like me but not meant too. 

I think it's only sad if any older or tired out person tries too hard to fit in with the young and spritely and not act consistently with who they are at that age. Some might say this is an apt description for many frazzled expats in Thailand but that's a different story..

[Cameroni]

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

If you had actually  bothered to read the article you would know that her "rounded back" is a thing of the past. The "experts" cited, were speculating about what she did to correct it.

 

No the experts are commenting on her rigidly upright position, which is part of her position overhaul, so clearly that's an ongoing problem.

 

Since it's a spinal issue it'll be a life long problem and will only get worse with age.

Edited September 17 by Cameroni

[Cameroni]

14 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Given that you are clearly unfamiliar with her work, why should anyone even trust your judgement? If you read the lyrics from her songs, you'll see that the are usually smart, witty, and sometimes even funny.  As for her voice, she uses what's she's got to great effect.  So, no, it isn't just about her looks. John Lennon didn't have a great voice either. But somehow, when it comes to women, the bar is set much higher.

 

And thanks for the cliche's about female pop singers. You've done a survey?

 

Did you just compare the lyrics of John Lennon songs to Taylor Swift's lyrics? 

 

Please tell me you didn't do that?

 

[cjinchiangrai]

50 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You know, I kinda feel sorry for Taylor Swift, when her looks fade in a few years nobody will be interested in buying her records. She'll be consigned to the dustbin of pop like Lady Gaga, another pop diva who sold her sexuality at first than pretended to be an artist, albeit with a better voice than Taylor Swift.

 

One only has to look at Mariah Carey today to see how sad that looks.

She will have to get by with her cats and her money while Trump sits in prison.

[Thingamabob]

5 hours ago, stevenl said:

Lol, she build from scratch a career and empire, you're a nurse living on retirement in NZ. Who's the smart one?

A mean, inappropriate comment. I'll thank the nurse for her work far more than the so-called entertainer/luvvy.

[Cameroni]

7 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

You see what you see. A big part of her appeal was freedom,  inclusiveness, support amongst the Little Monster fanbase, nice things happy things, not gonna attract a 59 year old guy like me but not meant too. 

I think it's only sad if any older or tired out person tries too hard to fit in with the young and spritely and not act consistently with who they are at that age. Some might say this is an apt description for many frazzled expats in Thailand but that's a different story..

 

Yes I agree, Swift made the most of her bubbly, free and easy, happy no matter what, vibe. And that did attract mostly 12 year old girls at first which made her a star. The same with Elvis Presley btw, way back when.

 

She does make the most of her conversational style of singing and that eye brow raising punchline is her forte, but it's just hard to get past her promiscuity problem, I just don't like it and it put me right off.

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I take extreme pleasure in consigning you to my ignore list.

Keeping up the stereotype.

[Cameroni]

19 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Given that you are clearly unfamiliar with her work, why should anyone even trust your judgement? If you read the lyrics from her songs, you'll see that the are usually smart, witty, and sometimes even funny.  As for her voice, she uses what's she's got to great effect.  So, no, it isn't just about her looks. John Lennon didn't have a great voice either. But somehow, when it comes to women, the bar is set much higher.

 

And thanks for the cliche's about female pop singers. You've done a survey?

 

See, this is the key the difference, the KEY difference placeholder. 

 

For Taylor Swift it is 80% about her looks. For John Lennon 5%.

 

That's a huge difference. Now, since you mentioned her excellent lyrics, let's have a look shall we?

 

"We are never, ever, ever getting back together
We are never, ever, ever getting back together
You go talk to your friends, talk to my friends, talk to me (talk to me)
But we are never ever ever ever getting back together

Ooh, yeah, ooh yeah, ooh yeah
Oh oh oh

I used to think that we were forever ever
And I used to say, "Never say never..."
Uggg... so he calls me up and he's like, "I still love you,"
And I'm like... "I just... I mean this is exhausting, you know, like
We are never getting back together. Like, ever"

No!

We are never ever ever getting back together
We are never ever ever getting back together"

 

Okay, now, Placeholder, do you think Taylor Swift will ever pen something like this:

 

"You may say I'm a dreamer

But I'm not the only one

I hope someday you'll join us

And the world will be as one

 

Imagine no possessions

I wonder if you can

No need for greed or hunger
 

A brotherhood of man

 

Imagine all the people
 

Sharing all the world"

 

Now, which of these lyrics are smarter? Which do you think? One is focused on her own navel, putting down men, the other is concerned about a brotherhood of man. I'm giving you a hint here!!!

[cjinchiangrai]

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes I agree, Swift made the most of her bubbly, free and easy, happy no matter what, vibe. And that did attract mostly 12 year old girls at first which made her a star. The same with Elvis Presley btw, way back when.

 

She does make the most of her conversational style of singing and that eye brow raising punchline is her forte, but it's just hard to get past her promiscuity problem, I just don't like it and it put me right off.

And what makes your unfounded slut shaming relevant to the topic of not endorsing a convicted felon?

[Cameroni]

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

And what makes your unfounded slut shaming relevant to the topic of not endorsing a convicted felon?

 

Well, she made some very bad choices in her personal life. Why should anyone trust someone like this on important matters?

[marin]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

but it's just hard to get past her promiscuity problem, I just don't like it and it put me right off.

Lots of parents take their kids to the show. I am glad they are not uptight prudes like you..

 

Here is a big Taylor fan with his kids. Glad he is not an uptight right wing prude like you Cameroni.

 

 

[Cameroni]

Just now, marin said:

Lots of parents take their kids to the show. I am glad they are not uptight prudes like you..

 

Here is a big Taylor fan with his kids. Glad he is not an uptight right wing prude like you Cameroni.

 

 

 

He looked pathetic dancing in the aisles though.

[cjinchiangrai]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, she made some very bad choices in her personal life. Why should anyone trust someone like this on important matters?

Trump made worse choices and is headed to prison.

[marin]

So Cameroni you have never had sex before marriage or outside of marriage?

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Trump made worse choices and is headed to prison.

 

I doubt it very much. Trump of course has been in a long loving relationship and has 5 beautiful children. Swift has chosen to remain a childless  woman. Quite tragic she will never experience the joy of children, but  another reason not to take her 2 cent wisdom literally.

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, marin said:

So Cameroni you have never had sex before marriage or outside of marriage?

 

I'm not a prude, quite the opposite, but the same rules don't apply.

 

If a woman tells me she's had 12 exes I would walk away immediately. Wouldn't you?

[cjinchiangrai]

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I doubt it very much. Trump of course has been in a long loving relationship and has 5 beautiful children. Swift has chosen to remain a childless  woman. Quite tragic she will never experience the joy of children, but  another reason not to take her 2 cent wisdom literally.

Trump has cheated on three wives. He was cheating on his Playboy bunny side piece with a porn star. His children are dishonest grifters just like him. Your gaslighting is laughable. Can't daddy Vlad give you better lies?

Edited September 17 by cjinchiangrai

[Cameroni]

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

Trump has cheated on three wives. He was cheating on his Playboy bunny side piece with a porn star. His children are dishonest grifters just like him. Your gaslighting is laughable. Can't daddy Vlad give you better lies?

 

You gotta hand it to Trump, he doesn't just cheat, he cheats with a porn star. Never does things by half.

[marin]

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

If a woman tells me she's had 12 exes I would walk away immediately. Wouldn't you?

you have got to be kidding me!!!  You are a freaking prude dude!! A funny one at that. Ever been out even one evening in Thailand?  I think at one time you probably have.  

 

You would also not run from her if she idled over and put her hand on your upper thigh either. 

 

You are full of sh*t, and not only politically. 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes I agree, Swift made the most of her bubbly, free and easy, happy no matter what, vibe. And that did attract mostly 12 year old girls at first which made her a star. The same with Elvis Presley btw, way back when.

 

She does make the most of her conversational style of singing and that eye brow raising punchline is her forte, but it's just hard to get past her promiscuity problem, I just don't like it and it put me right off.

The Little Monster thing is Lady Gaga in case you missed that. To be honest I know very little about Taylor Swift - heard a couple of songs that sound like stock standard pop - surprised you know the intimacies of her so called promiscuity but if that interests you no worries. 

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, it's not just "right wingers". Scientists found this too:

 

New research published in The Journal of Sex Research suggests that while people are willing to engage in a relationship with someone who has had two or three sexual partners, when their number is higher (or less) than that, an individual begins losing appeal.

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-mating-game/201612/do-you-have-the-right-number-of-ex-partners

 

Didn't seem to hurt Wilt Chamberlain nor Mick Jagger. Taylor Swift landed herself Travis Kelce, a great and wealthy NFL player bound for the Hall of Fame, so whatever Ms Swift's past, it hasn't hurt her romantic life.

 

And then there's that love muffin running for President on the (R) ticket. The guy's been down the aisle 3 times, dallied with a Playboy playmate and a porn star, and now has drawn the gaze of one Laura Loomer (not that any other heterosexual man would have the slightest interest in doing anything buy donning the Nikes and running full speed away from that moonbat Loomer).

 

I'm really not sure what your attempt to disparage the actual billionaire and world's current #1 artist, in terms of popularity, is geared toward. Ms Swift is not looking for another partner, seemingly quite content with Travis Kelce. As for voters, she has prompted massive new registration, and few who were motivated by her post are likely to vote for the thrice-married, serial philandering, guy whose current major policy issue involves Haitians and household pets.

[Celsius]

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Not at all, I haven't liked Swift for a long time due to her disgrac eful promiscuity. Not a good woman. I would have been embarassed if she'd been associated with Trump in anyway.

 

Looks like most voters agree.

 

 

You literally live with someone who gave you syphilis sleeping around yet you write this gibberish.

[Cameroni]

Look, all I'm saying, the only endorsements that would matter in this election are endorsements by:

 

 

1. John Mearsheimer

 

2. Naom Chomsky

 

3.  Norman Finkelstein

 

4. Douglas Diamond

 

5. Chadd Wright

 

It's good to see voters are not swayed by non-entities like Taylor Swift. I mean Jesus Christ, why not ask Justin Bieber. It's ridiculous.