Trump vs. Taylor Swift: A Battle He’s Bound to Lose

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

What ? You are a hypocrite. Sticking up for one at the same time putting down others.

 

Your comment is simply a pathetic attempt to troll. And a personal dig as usual. You seem to get away with it a lot. 

Thank you for your accolades.

 

Anything to say on the topic of discussion?

 

Here’s a clue, it’s not me.

[stoner]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Thank you for your accolades.

 

Anything to say on the topic of discussion?

 

Here’s a clue, it’s not me.

 

I said it's strange you sticking up for Taylor. Which is on topic.

 

But then belittling others. 

 

You sort of made it about you with your nasty usual coy digs.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

I said it's strange you sticking up for Taylor. Which is on topic.

 

But then belittling others. 

 

You sort of made it about you with your nasty usual coy digs.

Getting g back to Topic.

 

Taylor Swift’s endorsement is a huge win for Harris.

 

Swift has millions of followers in the young age group of voters that Democrats need to onboard to win the election too , a demography that doesn’t show up in most polls and therefore a wildcard.

 

That Swift also brings her feminist reputation to the fight precisely when Republicans are actively undermining women’s rights is a double bonus.

 

It’s huge.

 

 

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

Taylor Swift’s endorsement is a huge win for Harris.

 

celebrity's endorsements are pointless to an average citizen who is worried about gas prices and mortgage payments.

 

another billionaire telling the average person how much they understand their plight.

 

shake it off shake it off. 

[candide]

5 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

celebrity's endorsements are pointless to an average citizen who is worried about gas prices and mortgage payments.

 

another billionaire telling the average person how much they understand their plight.

 

shake it off shake it off. 

You may be right! In this case, Trump must be really dumb to become enraged about it. 😁

[stoner]

Just now, candide said:

You may be right! In this case, Trump must be really dumb to become enraged about it. 😁

 

took you this long to figure out ? 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, stoner said:

 

celebrity's endorsements are pointless to an average citizen who is worried about gas prices and mortgage payments.

 

another billionaire telling the average person how much they understand their plight.

 

shake it off shake it off. 

You obviously didn’t read Swift’s endorsement of Harris.

 

Her statement included this:

 

 

“I’ve done my research, and I’ve made my choice. Your research is all yours to do, and the choice is yours to make.””

 

 

As for pointless:

 

“Within 24 hours of her announcement, nearly 340,000 people had visited the voter registration website, vote.gov, using a custom link created and shared by Swift.”

That’s an awful lot of “pointless”

In 24 hours.

 

 

 

https://davidallengreen.com/2024/09/how-taylor-swifts-endorsement-of-harris-and-walz-is-a-masterpiece-of-persuasive-prose-a-songwriters-practical-lesson-in-written-advocacy/

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89w4110n89o.amp

 

[Cameroni]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Can we see your evidence that each and all of Taylor Swift’s relationships was sexual?

 

 

 

You're falling hook line and sinker for a false narrative Taylor Swift has been spinning, that she's now only hanging out with female friends, because, poor her, she can't hang out with her male friends because it's just misconstrued as sexual. She has repeatedly complained about the countless remarks about her extensiive boyfriend list. So she tried to explain this list by other means. However, there is a problem with this narrative.

 

Swift herself, by virtue of being in the entertainment business, has had the opportunity to hook up with some of the most desired, celebrated, successful and best looking men on the planet. And naturally, Taylor Swift wants the world to know about it, narcissist that she is, so she has written countless songs about each and every one of these encounters. 

 

If you look at the lyrics of these songs, it is clear that these are 1) based on real events, since she references actual events such as the Met black tie gala, where she indeed met the man she hooked up with and sings about and 2) the songs are so full of resentments, heartache and descriptions of intimate moments that it is clear these are deeply felt real traces of real relationships.

 

Her longest relationship was 6 years with Joe Alywn. He may have been the love of her life, but he was too sensitive, delicate and low key for the party beast Taylor Swift, who always wanted a public romance. When Joe refused to propose she ended it. If two people in showbiz are discussing marriage it is safe to assume they've had sex.  The full details here

 

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a60515179/taylor-swift-joe-alwyn-breakup-details-explained/

 

She was with Calvin Harris for 15 months. He had a car accident and week later she broke up with him. Not the classiest thing to do. Two weeks after she split from Calvin Harris she hooked up with Tom Hiddleston. She was flirting and dancing with Tom Hiddleston while she was still in a relationship with Calvin Harris.

Due to this rel lasting 15 months and ending in real acrimony it would be inconceivable this was not a sexual relationship. It appears Calvin Harris was  a control freak and like Joe Alwyn insisted on covert dating, when the party beast wanted to do it publicly. 

 

https://people.com/celebrity/taylor-swift-calvin-harris-breakup-timeline/

 

If you're really interested I can continue the series, but it would get very long, because she's had so many boyfriends.

 

Edited September 22 by Cameroni

[stoner]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

You obviously didn’t read Swift’s endorsement of Harris.

 

Her statement included this:

 

 

 

“I’ve done my research, and I’ve made my choice. Your research is all yours to do, and the choice is yours to make.””

 

 

As for pointless:

 

“Within 24 hours of her announcement, nearly 340,000 people had visited the voter registration website, vote.gov, using a custom link created and shared by Swift.”

That’s an awful lot of “pointless”

In 24 hours.

 

 

 

https://davidallengreen.com/2024/09/how-taylor-swifts-endorsement-of-harris-and-walz-is-a-masterpiece-of-persuasive-prose-a-songwriters-practical-lesson-in-written-advocacy/

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89w4110n89o.amp

 

 

of those 340 how many actually registered ? how many will actually vote. how much of that traffic was from outside usa ? how many were kids unable to vote. how many were haters who gonna hate hate hate.

 

or how many are like most people now a days and go where the shiny new thing leads them.....then after a few seconds they swipe.

 

340k in a population of 400 million is peanuts.

 

why are you posting opinion links in your comment ?  

 

 

[stoner]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

She was with Calvin Harris for 15 months

 

for 15 months they remained celibate. 

[Cameroni]

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Getting g back to Topic.

 

Taylor Swift’s endorsement is a huge win for Harris.

 

Swift has millions of followers in the young age group of voters that Democrats need to onboard to win the election too , a demography that doesn’t show up in most polls and therefore a wildcard.

 

That Swift also brings her feminist reputation to the fight precisely when Republicans are actively undermining women’s rights is a double bonus.

 

It’s huge.

 

 

 

This is contadicted by the fact that Harris was doing better in the polls before the endorsement by Swift.

 

Post endorsement her figures are actually worse.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You're falling hook line and sinker for a false narrative Taylor Swift has been spinning, that she's now only hanging out with female friends, because, poor her, she can't hang out with her male friends because it's just misconstrued as sexual. She has repeatedly complained about the countless remarks about her extensiive boyfriend list. So she tried to explain this list by other means. However, there is a problem with this narrative.

 

Swift herself, by virtue of being in the entertainment business, has had the opportunity to hook up with some of the most desired, celebrated, successful and best looking men on the planet. And naturally, Taylor Swift wants the world to know about it, narcissist that she is, so she has written countless songs about each and every one of these encounters. 

 

If you look at the lyrics of these songs, it is clear that these are 1) based on real events, since she references actual events such as the Met black tie gala, where she indeed met the man she hooked up with and sings about and 2) the songs are so full of resentments, heartache and descriptions of intimate moments that it is clear these are deeply felt real traces of real relationships.

 

Her longest relationship was 6 years with Joe Alywn. He may have been the love of her life, but he was too sensitive, delicate and low key for the party beast Taylor Swift, who always wanted a public romance. When Joe refused to propose she ended it. If two people in showbiz are discussing marriage it is safe to assume they've had sex.  The full details here

 

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a60515179/taylor-swift-joe-alwyn-breakup-details-explained/

 

She was with Calvin Harris for 15 months. He had a car accident and week later she broke up with him. Not the classiest thing to do. Two weeks after she split from Calvin Harris she hooked up with Tom Hiddleston. She was flirting and dancing with Tom Hiddleston while she was still in a relationship with Calvin Harris.

Due to this rel lasting 15 months and ending in real acrimony it would be inconceivable this was not a sexual relationship. It appears Calvin Harris was  a control freak and like Joe Alwyn insisted on covert dating, when the party beast wanted to do it publicly. 

 

https://people.com/celebrity/taylor-swift-calvin-harris-breakup-timeline/

 

If you're really interested I can continue the series, but it would get very long, because she's had so many boyfriends.

 

You’ve only got ten more relationships to go.

 

Keep going.

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

of those 340 how many actually registered ? how many will actually vote. how much of that traffic was from outside usa ? how many were kids unable to vote. how many were haters who gonna hate hate hate.

 

or how many are like most people now a days and go where the shiny new thing leads them.....then after a few seconds they swipe.

 

340k in a population of 400 million is peanuts.

 

why are you posting opinion links in your comment ?  

 

 

Which opinion link do you object to, I’ll gladly replace it to keep you happy?

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

This is contadicted by the fact that Harris was doing better in the polls before the endorsement by Swift.

 

Post endorsement her figures are actually worse.

Link

[Cameroni]

In 2008, at age 19 Swift started dating Joe Jonas. It was just a fling for him and he dumped her unceremoniously, incurring her never ending wrath. The fact that she hated Joe Jonas so much  would strongly suggest they had a sexual relationship. When Jonas divorced his wife Taylor Swift made sure to butt in and supported the ex wife in very substantial ways, including publicly. Again, most likely a sexual relationship.

 

Lucas Till, okay that one could have been sexual or not, hard to say. I'll give you that one.

 

Taylor Lautner was different,  she dated him briefly for his looks and the bond formed in a joint project, but in the end he was far too invested and she was not, and she dumped him. She felt so bad about dumping him she wrote the only positive song about Lautner, who to this day is her fan boy. There's a pic of both kissing passionately. More likely this was sexual, especially given the lyrics to Back to December.

 

Next came John Mayer, at 32 a bit older than the 19 year old Swift at the time. He dominated the relationship and broke up with her, incurring her worst wrath and she wrote the worst ever song about him. She plays the young girl card after throwing herself at him. Definitely a sexual relationship.

 

 

https://www.elle.com.au/culture/celebrity/taylor-swift-ex-boyfriends-19285/

 

Edited September 22 by Cameroni

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Cameroni said:

The fact that she hated Joe Jonas so much  would strongly suggest they had a sexual relationship.

Nonsense.

 

Maybe he was a nasty piece of work.

 

Keep going, you’re up to 2 on circumstantial evidence, not a jot of proof, but you making an effort.

[stoner]

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

In 2008, at age 19 Swift started dating Joe Jonas. It was just a fling for him and he dumped her unceremoniously, incurring her never ending wrath. The fact that she hated Joe Jonas so much  would strongly suggest they had a sexual relationship. When Jonas divorced his wife Taylor Swift made sure to butt in and supported the ex wife in very substantial ways, including publicly. Again, most likely a sexual relationship.

 

Lucas Till, okay that one could have been sexual or not, hard to say. I'll give you that one.

 

Taylor Lautner was different,  she dated him briefly for his looks and the bond formed in a joint project, but in the end he was far too invested and she was not, and she dumped him. She felt so bad about dumping him she wrote the only positive song about Lautner, who to this day is her fan boy. There's a pic of both kissing passionately. More likely this was sexual, especially given the lyrics to Back to December.

 

Next came John Mayer, at 32 a bit older than the 19 year old Swift at the time. He dominated the relationship and broke up with her, incurring her worst wrath and she wrote the worst ever song about him. She plays the young girl card after throwing herself at him. Definitely a sexual relationship.

 

 

https://www.elle.com.au/culture/celebrity/taylor-swift-ex-boyfriends-19285/

 

 

Why can't you understand that she dated to hold hands. No second base my man. 

[candide]

33 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

This is contadicted by the fact that Harris was doing better in the polls before the endorsement by Swift.

 

Post endorsement her figures are actually worse.

And, of course, it's not true!

https://www.racetothewh.com/president/polls#google_vignette

[Tug]

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

In 2008, at age 19 Swift started dating Joe Jonas. It was just a fling for him and he dumped her unceremoniously, incurring her never ending wrath. The fact that she hated Joe Jonas so much  would strongly suggest they had a sexual relationship. When Jonas divorced his wife Taylor Swift made sure to butt in and supported the ex wife in very substantial ways, including publicly. Again, most likely a sexual relationship.

 

Lucas Till, okay that one could have been sexual or not, hard to say. I'll give you that one.

 

Taylor Lautner was different,  she dated him briefly for his looks and the bond formed in a joint project, but in the end he was far too invested and she was not, and she dumped him. She felt so bad about dumping him she wrote the only positive song about Lautner, who to this day is her fan boy. There's a pic of both kissing passionately. More likely this was sexual, especially given the lyrics to Back to December.

 

Next came John Mayer, at 32 a bit older than the 19 year old Swift at the time. He dominated the relationship and broke up with her, incurring her worst wrath and she wrote the worst ever song about him. She plays the young girl card after throwing herself at him. Definitely a sexual relationship.

 

 

https://www.elle.com.au/culture/celebrity/taylor-swift-ex-boyfriends-19285/

 

Why are dissecting a teen age girls relationships that’s just weird and sexist to boot.Face it Harris is getting all the plum endorsements all the intellect and creativity is in her corner .meanwhile your presious Donnie is continuing to press on with his racist lie about the Haitian refugees eating the pets in Springfield Ohio.So here you are desperately trying to discredit a very popular pop star…….kinda easy to see who’s desperate in this equation ehh???he’s circling the drain don’t forget to flush twice it’s a big fat orange one going down lmao 😂 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

58 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

celebrity's endorsements are pointless to an average citizen who is worried about gas prices and mortgage payments.

 

another billionaire telling the average person how much they understand their plight.

 

shake it off shake it off. 

I think younger  people - particularly up to say 35 - are more likely to care about moral issues as well as hip pocket stuff - she got them thinking about voting - registered - and ready to vote. The morality of multiple partners which seems to excite some here is small fry to a certain audience compared to the morality of women's rights, women's health and the perceived moral standing of each candidate. 

Edited September 22 by Fat is a type of crazy

[Cameroni]

Corey Monteith - I'll ignore this one for reasons of good taste.

 

Jake Gyllenhaal - They took a private jet to dates in Europe, he 100% banged her brains her out.

 

Adam Young, Zac Efron, Eddy Redmayne and Chord Overstreet - no sex

 

Now it gets interesting, Swift did date the grandson of RFK Jr, Conor Kennedy. At 18 he was barely legal, she was 22. She bought a house close to him during their short rel. However, the family did not like her crashing the wedding of a Kennedy. This is a really tough one. Did they or didn't they? Even the song doesn't answer it.

 

Harry Styles - Yup, banged her.

 

Tom Hiddleston - Banged her for sure.

 

Matt Healy - He bangs everything that moves.

 

Travis Kelce - Most likely banged.

 

https://www.elle.com.au/culture/celebrity/taylor-swift-ex-boyfriends-19285/

 

It would seem that Taylor went on the carousel to try out the prettiest boys, then gravitated towards bad guy, masculine men. However, at 34 undoubtedly also the pressing need to settle down to have kids would have influenced her choice to settle on Kelce.

 

[Cameroni]

43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Link

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/kamala-harris-trump-tied-in-nationwide-new-york-times-poll/

 

Again, Harris is now tied. Before the Swift enorsement she was leading. Looks like the Swift endorsement did not help her but had the opposite effect.

[marin]

58 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

This is contadicted by the fact that Harris was doing better in the polls before the endorsement by Swift.

 

Post endorsement her figures are actually worse.

Again you have absolutely no basis for this statement. Post the poll. Almost all polls are now showing a sharp jump up for Harris post debate. Swift endorsed her that night. Once again post some data showing that Taylor Swifts endorsement has in any way hurt Kamala Harris. 

 

You should realize the same register website she referred to has now over 1,000,000  new registrants. 

[stoner]

1 minute ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I think younger  people - particularly up to say 35 - are more likely to care about moral issues as well as hip pocket stuff - she got them thinking about voting - registered - and ready to vote. The morality of multiple partners which seems to excite some here is small fry to a certain audience compared to the morality of women's rights, women's health and the perceived moral standing of each candidate. 

 

I think the point some posters are trying to make is that it's laughable she wasn't sexually active in her relationships. How many ? who knows not the point. 

 

Clearly the woman was dating frequently ...yet couldn't hold a long term relationship. The discussion around all that is another topic in itself. 

 

How many actually registered because of her ? And how many real votes will that translate to.

 

340k visits to a website isn't much to brag about at all.. 

 

Relate that to how much money was donated to kamala in the beginning from regular people. Which in itself is only a portion of the donations. There is a chunk of the donations came from rich people as well. 

 

Who was sitting in all the private very expensive vip boxes at the convention ? They are donating millions with no want in return. ? Chris cuomo has talked about this in length but it was totally ignored by the media. Cenk from tyt also goes into this quite frequently..and he is pretty liberal. even ran for the dems. Even though impossible I know. 

 

The Taylor effect is tiny comparatively speaking.

 

[candide]

32 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/kamala-harris-trump-tied-in-nationwide-new-york-times-poll/

 

Again, Harris is now tied. Before the Swift enorsement she was leading. Looks like the Swift endorsement did not help her but had the opposite effect.

One single poll is meaningless! Other polls are not showing a tie.

 

On top of it, even this particular poll brand contradicts your claim!

 

From your link:

A new New York Times poll shows Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump are tied in a nationwide survey of likely voters with Trump losing a point... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

The one that wanted to nuke hurricanes? Not likely.

be real, you want to send billions more to Ukraine for a war they wont win, an dhave thousands die,  so type of guy you are aye!

[bubblegum]

2 hours ago, stoner said:

 

What bothers me is you standing on a higher moral ground while belittling others. 

 

It's so pathetic. 

 

 

In my opinion that is what you do all the time while claiming to be impartial.

[bubblegum]

2 hours ago, stoner said:

 

celebrity's endorsements are pointless to an average citizen who is worried about gas prices and mortgage payments.

 

another billionaire telling the average person how much they understand their plight.

 

shake it off shake it off. 

And you know that how?

[stoner]

1 minute ago, bubblegum said:

In my opinion that is what you do all the time while claiming to be impartial.

 

show me examples then. 

[bubblegum]

3 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

show me examples then. 

No