Stealing a Federal Election

[impulse]

28 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Anyone can file a lawsuit or an amicus brief. Just filing one doesn't make it true. 

 

In fact, that lawsuit and over 60 others were adjudicated by the courts and in none of the court cases was any evidence found that any of the results were fraudulent.

 

So it's not a question of just some random poster on here saying there was no evidence, it's literally dozens of judges (many of whom were appointed by Trump) who, having looked carefully into the matter and considered everything that was put before them, have issued official, judicial findings that there was no evidence.

 

Courts have dismissed multiple lawsuits of alleged electoral fraud presented by Trump campaign

 

Your link is from Feb 2021.  You need to catch up.  The rulings have been mostly in the Repubs' favor once they got the standing issues ironed out.

 

Just this week, the PA Supreme Court agreed that improperly dated mail in ballots will not be counted like they were (illegally) in 2020.  That's between paragraph 41 and 63 in the TX vs PA lawsuit, which I'm pretty sure you didn't bother to read once your mind was made up by the MSM.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/pennsylvania-supreme-court-mail-ballots-incorrect-dates-rcna170819

 

 

[DD86]

20 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

This should be the shortest topic ever, because I am inviting the Trumpers to show proof that the 2020 election was stolen (implying that the 2024 election could be stolen, as well).

 

I have served as a poll watcher, and have watched the votes being counted.

 

I suspect that the foreign Trump supporters are clueless about election procedures, maybe the domestic variety, too.

Starting this topic shows a couple of things. You like to provoke, you like to irritate the Trump voters and you like to show off.

 

[Wrwest]

For non US citizens here, allow me to share my experience with US voting over my 77 years. While voting in my local voting district, ... I would show up on Election Day at the designated local place designated before hand as to where I could vote (no, not possible to then go and vote elsewhere or to vote in any other local polling place). Once inside there were both representatives from the government County Court Clerk's Office to oversea the procedure. There were also neighbors representing the Republican Party and the Democrat Party as "poll watchers" (I do not know if any other political parties were represented). When it was my turn, I approached the table where the Voter Registration Book was. I had to sign next to my previous signature from the last time I voted. Signatures were matched. As I say these were poll workers from my local voting district and so I was recognized by several people as being "me". Then I entered the voting booth. You pulled a handle and the curtain closed behind you so you could vote in private. After marking the ballot, pulling the handle again, opened the curtain and registered the ballot in the machine (which had been checked both before the election and would be checked afterward for accuracy). Never mind the "what ifs" ... I said I was sharing my experience. Every state controls elections restricted only that they cannot mess with the federal government office vote. (I say this as Arizona, for example has screwed things up ... they decided to require proof of citizenship, but that can only apply to state offices, not to the vote for federal offices).

 

For the last 13 years I have lived in Thailand and have thus voted by "Absentee Ballot". I just downloaded my Ballot material from Kentucky. There is an affidavit where I had to sign that under penalty of perjury, I was a US citizen, among 4 other things (not a felon, over 18, etc). I was given instructions as to marking my choices for candidates on the ballot, & voting on proposed Kentucky Constitutional Amendments (one of which was to require presentation of proof of US citizenship ... as it is already against US law to vote if you are not a US citizen, I recognize this as a political ploy and repetitious requiring more "regulations" which I oppose unless there is a need. Then, the ballot is to be sealed in an inter "security envelope". That and the affidavit is to be placed inside the pre addressed envelope to be sent to the County Court Clerk where I had previously voted since 1965. The outer envelope is "franked" meaning if in the US mail, no postage is needed (if mailed from Thailand through Thai Post or UPS, etc. you are to pay the postage). Fortunately, I live in a city with a US Consulate, thus I can drop my envelope in the box at the Consulate entrance (there is always a guard there when the box is present). The Consulate will place all ballots going to the USA in the "Diplomatic Pouch" meaning the US government will deliver the ballots to the USA port of entry, then the US postal service takes care of regular first class mail delivery. I will check with my County Court Clerk's Office to assure my envelope is delivered. Mail in ballots, including Absentee Ballots from overseas will be opened only after the Kentucky voting polls close (that is my understanding so final vote counts are delayed until all votes are counted. Bottom line folks ... I am an American citizen with DNA present from before the country's founding. I trust in the basic integrity of all those I have cited here as involved in handling my vote. And yes, that means even in a heavily red state. Foreign and domestic provocateurs be damned.

[ModdaPunk]

29 minutes ago, Irish star said:

It’s been determined by experts that Trump had vocabulary of a 5 year old lol

 

And Kamala Harris laughs like a 5 yo.

What's your point exactly ?

[Irish star]

4 minutes ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

And Kamala Harris laughs like a 5 yo.

What's your point exactly ?

Don’t mind if ignore you a laugh terrifies you what a lil girl

[ModdaPunk]

5 minutes ago, Irish star said:

Don’t mind if ignore you a laugh terrifies you what a lil girl

 

Whatever tough guy.

Hope you'll be successful dealing with your insecurities.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by ModdaPunk

[Irish star]

3 minutes ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

Whatever tough guy.

Hope you'll be successful dealing with your insecurities.

 

 

3 minutes ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

Whatever tough guy.

Hope you'll be successful dealing with your insecurities.

 

Look at my post history, let me know if you find me insecure lol, I lived in Ireland for years I can take a Slaggin

Edited 2 hours ago by Irish star

[ModdaPunk]

Just now, Irish star said:

 

Look at my post history, let me know if you find me insecure lol

 

I don't care about your post history.

Who do you think you are exactly ? :D :D

Of course you are insecure.

You post garbage and you antagonize people to assert your masculinity.

Don't worry, tough guy.

I don't mind.

The "political soapbox" forum has been created for people like you.

[Irish star]

1 minute ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

I don't care about your post history.

Who do you think you are exactly ? 😄 😄

Of course you are insecure.

You post garbage and you antagonize people to assert your masculinity.

Don't worry, tough guy.

I don't mind.

The "political soapbox" forum has been created for people like you.

Garbage , I post facts with bit of humour, you just get intimidated 

[Dan O]

5 hours ago, renaissanc said:

You probably also believe Morning Joe's version of January 6th. The truth came out yesterday that proves General Millie was behind the refusal to obey Trump's order to protect the Capitol with 10,000 troops or National Guard. Investigate the truth yourself and ignore the Dem-Marxist state media.

Can you post a link to that so we can see your source of info on this?

[Dan O]

37 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Your link is from Feb 2021.  You need to catch up.  The rulings have been mostly in the Repubs' favor once they got the standing issues ironed out.

 

Just this week, the PA Supreme Court agreed that improperly dated mail in ballots will not be counted like they were (illegally) in 2020.  That's between paragraph 41 and 63 in the TX vs PA lawsuit, which I'm pretty sure you didn't bother to read once your mind was made up by the MSM.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/pennsylvania-supreme-court-mail-ballots-incorrect-dates-rcna170819

 

 

You may want to go back and reread that and compare it to your statement. They were not illegally counted in the

last election as that was the current regulation which has now been changed for future elections. That rule along with other rules can be changed in the future as well

[bubblegum]

Trumpers will say it's stolen because he said so. Unable to think for themselves they spend hour after hour to find their conspiracy's and then advocate it as "truth" .

 

Never in my (now) long live have I seen this kind of mass hysteria as I was not yet born under Hitlers regime. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

Your link is from Feb 2021.  You need to catch up.  The rulings have been mostly in the Repubs' favor once they got the standing issues ironed out.

You're the one who seems confused about dates. All of the 60-plus lawsuits that were filed by Republicans contesting the results of the 2020 election had already been decided by January 2021. For some reason, the particular link I posted, only talks about 50 plus but other links from the same time or earlier, mention the total of over 60.

 

Here's one example: 

 

In more than 60 cases, judges “looked at the allegations that Trump was making and determined they were without any merit.”

 

Your second claim is also completely untrue - none of the lawsuits related to the 2020 election went in favour of the Republicans claiming the elections were fraudulent.

 

Again, from the same link posted above:

 

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"It is 63 losses by Trump and his allies," Elias told PolitiFact the morning of Jan. 8 [2021]."

 

[ModdaPunk]

1 hour ago, Irish star said:

Garbage , I post facts with bit of humour, you just get intimidated 

 

Oh yeah right...

Intimidated by what exactly ?

Your lame comment about Trump's vocabulary ?

Give me a break, tough guy :D

 

[Irish star]

1 minute ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

Oh yeah right...

Intimidated by what exactly ?

Your lame comment about Trump's vocabulary ?

Give me a break, tough guy 😄

 

Did I hurt your lil feelings , make a donation to Trump , you will feel better 5555

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Of course I have no proof, whatsoever, that the 2020 election was stolen. Watching on TV, however, we saw the sudden arrival of all those postal votes in black plastic bags in the dead of night. Entirely legitimate, no doubt, but it looked very odd.

Classic case of you not knowing how elections work.

 

All elections have midnight deliveries of ballots from outlying precincts.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Your link is from Feb 2021.  You need to catch up.  The rulings have been mostly in the Repubs' favor once they got the standing issues ironed out.

 

Just this week, the PA Supreme Court agreed that improperly dated mail in ballots will not be counted like they were (illegally) in 2020.  That's between paragraph 41 and 63 in the TX vs PA lawsuit, which I'm pretty sure you didn't bother to read once your mind was made up by the MSM.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/pennsylvania-supreme-court-mail-ballots-incorrect-dates-rcna170819

 

 

No court has ruled that the 2020 election was stolen, or that there was significant fraud.

Edited 52 minutes ago by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

I agree 100%.  The 2024 election is headed in the same direction.  MAGA will have to win by 5% to make up for the Left's cheating.  Why are you Leftist so eager to have a Marxist/Communist government installed.  This kind of government is easy to get into and not easy at all to get out of.  She and her husband are both Communists.  Walz like Bernie Sanders had his honeymoon in Russia.  

Do you have any proof that the 2020 election was stolen?

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

Walz like Bernie Sanders had his honeymoon in Russia.  

Are you 100% sure of that?

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, parallelman said:

The OP doesn't offer any reason for bringing the subject up in the first place...it's over three years old. People and the world have moved on...except the OP it seems.

Because the Trumpers are claiming that the 2024 election will be stolen. But have no proof.

[ModdaPunk]

15 minutes ago, Irish star said:

Did I hurt your lil feelings , make a donation to Trump , you will feel better 5555

 

Yeah, yeah, tough guy. Whatever you say...

 

 

 

[gamb00ler]

22 hours ago, johng said:

 You tell me  you're the expert "poll watcher"

He's not claiming fraud... you are.  Pony up or surrender.

[candide]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Your link is from Feb 2021.  You need to catch up.  The rulings have been mostly in the Repubs' favor once they got the standing issues ironed out.

 

Just this week, the PA Supreme Court agreed that improperly dated mail in ballots will not be counted like they were (illegally) in 2020.  That's between paragraph 41 and 63 in the TX vs PA lawsuit, which I'm pretty sure you didn't bother to read once your mind was made up by the MSM.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/pennsylvania-supreme-court-mail-ballots-incorrect-dates-rcna170819

 

 

More of the lame MAGA confusion tactics. 😁

 

There has been absolutely no ruling acknowledging massive voter fraud during the 2020 election.

[candide]

14 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Because the Trumpers are claiming that the 2024 election will be stolen. But have no proof.

They do that whenever they think they may lose the election.

Trump did it already in 2016, when polls were predicting a Clinton win! 😃

[gamb00ler]

21 hours ago, impulse said:

Meantime, 40% of the voters don't trust the results, including millions of Dems.

Every US resident who watches any news has been subjected to years of brainwashing by millions of repetitions of baseless accusations about election fraud.  About 40% of the them have fallen for it.

 

PS - pretty much zero successful prosecutions for voter fraud

[Taco]

No. He lost

[Danderman123]

21 hours ago, impulse said:

You may as well have asked for evidence that The Gulf of Tonkin was a lie between1964 when it happened and 1971 when The Pentagon Papers leaked out. 

 

  

 

Surprisingly, the Vietnamese have admitted that they attacked the USS Maddox in 1964. So, no Gulf of Tonkin lie.

[Danderman123]

The Trumpers were unable to present any proof of voter fraud after the 2020 election to any court.

 

Yet many Trumpers here believe there was fraud, without seeing any proof.

 

The less they know about how elections are conducted, the more convinced they are that there was fraud. 

[Danderman123]

17 minutes ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

Yeah, yeah, tough guy. Whatever you say...

 

 

 

Do you have any proof that the 2020 election was stolen?

[Masterton]

Anyone who gets their information and "news" from the Democrat mainstream media will never believe that there was any impropriety in the 2020 election and they will believe until their dying day that it was the most secure election in history. It is a completely pointless debate because nobody on either side will ever change their opinion on it.  You basically have those on one side who know what happened, and those on the other side who have been lied to and gaslit by the media and think they know.

 

When mail in balloting was found to favour Republican votes in the past, the Dems and their dishonest media sang a very different tune. When they used it to cheat in the 2020 election then all of a sudden it was perfect. There were several factors involved in stealing the election and it was not only down to mail in ballot fraud. For example Pensylvania changed their election laws in a way that violated their constitution. And the media and social platforms deliberately supressed the Hunter Biden laptop story (which turned out to be 100% true). That alone was enough to sway the results according to research done later.

 

Too many on here blindly repeating nonsense they heard in the media rather than doing any credible research for themselves and informing themselves of facts. The cases filed were not all by Trump and they were not lost due to the claims being without evidence. They were declined due to standing etc. There was a ton of evidence, it was just not heard. There is a difference between evidence and proof. Trump got more votes than any sitting president in US history and he only "lost" by a few thousand votes in a few swing states (popular vote is meaningless), states that he was mostly leading the day after the election until the they started counting the mail in ballots behind closed doors which took weeks and which amazingly seemed to mostly be for Biden. Yeah not odd at all.... Way too much to go into, but if anyone thinks the 2020 election was not stolen, and if you really believe that Biden got more votes than Obama and Clinton, then you really are living in fantasy land...