Drunk Crashes Into Motorcycle, Killing Two 14-Year-Old Girls in Tragic Wrong-Way Collision

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

The fact that the only responses you have got is laughing emojis shows how ignorant so many Expats are about how things work in Thailand. You are correct -

Thank you.  I wouldn't expect anything else from those ignorant, Thai-bashing posters which is why I don't follow, nor care about any fatuous emoji "opinions"!

Edited October 7 by Liverpool Lou

[Liverpool Lou]

17 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

18 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

22 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The position of the pickup in the photo is likely irrelevant, it could well have been parked there at the side of the road after, and away from, the impact, not to mention the results of kinetic energy -  vehicles rarely stop dead, pointing the same way as before the impact, after an impact at speed.

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Ok then, we will ignore what the report actually said and the photographic evidence because you want to argue as usual.

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Two trolls trolling each other. 😵‍💫

Three...don't forget yourself.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Thank you.  I wouldn't expect anything else from those ignorant, Thai-bashing posters which is why I don't follow, nor care about any fatuous emoji "opinions"!

Thumbs up anyway 😁

But if you want to see Thai bashing at its extreme, read the comments under any similar story in that publication that has a name involving KhrunThep and the mail service. Unbelievable - like so many on here - I often wonder why they live here  - but I think most of them do not and are only sexpat visitors, and the rest thought they could 'convert' a bar girl and failed badly. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

38 minutes ago, theblether said:

5am in Thailand. 

 

Tell me how you would use public transport. 

 

Not taxis. Public transport to get home. 

 

Some of you need to wake up 

Some???

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Thumbs up anyway 😁

But if you want to see Thai bashing at its extreme, read the comments under any similar story in that publication that has a name involving KhrunThep and the mail service. Unbelievable - like so many on here - I often wonder why they live here  - but I think most of them do not and are only sexpat visitors, and the rest thought they could 'convert' a bar girl and failed badly. 

Many of those foul, idiotic Bangkok Post commentators grace AN with their delightful presence, also!

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Many of those foul, idiotic Bangkok Post commentators grace AN with their delightful presence, also!

Yes indeed - I sometimes read them on the bog for a laugh.

I thought Bangkok Post was 'banned' here - perhaps it is linking to their stories - my bad.

[KannikaP]

4 hours ago, Presnock said:

And if I am not mistaken, motorcyclists are not required to have insurance so the police normally just charge any other vehicle that hits the motorcycle.

You certainly ARE mistaken. 3rd party Por a Bor is mandatory.

[KannikaP]

49 minutes ago, theblether said:

5am in Thailand. 

 

Tell me how you would use public transport. 

 

Not taxis. Public transport to get home. 

 

Some of you need to wake up 

14 year old girls going home at 5am. Don't post silly stuff.

[FruitPudding]

50 minutes ago, theblether said:

5am in Thailand. 

 

Tell me how you would use public transport. 

 

Not taxis. Public transport to get home. 

 

Some of you need to wake up 

 

Firstly, what were two 14 year old girls doing out at that time?? Maybe making some income for their parents 🤔 

 

Secondly,  taxis are easy to get in Thailand and always have been affordable. Easier than ever now with apps, such as Grab and Bolt. 

 

Thirdly, risking your life - or your child's life - for convenience is not worth it.

 

Those poor girls should never have been in that situation. 

[samui99]

On 10/6/2024 at 4:24 AM, MalcolmB said:

Not at all. 
The accident was not caused by the girls, they could have been 40 years old and they still would have been ploughed down by the speeding driver going the wrong way.

It could have been you, it could have been me. 
 

Many 14 year old girls are sensible and responsible, unlike the speeding 66 year old Brit who killed himself on the bike in Pattaya last night.

Are you going to blame his parents?

The 18 yr old tried to warn the girls, of the car coming the wrong way. Maybe if they were of age or a bit more road savy, they would of been aware of it too.

They're parents and being too young is also a contributing factor unfortunately 

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Three...don't forget yourself.

 

The truth can never be a troll.  Even if people don't like it.  

[Captain Flack]

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[0ffshore360]

22 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Presumably neither of them were wearing helmets, but if they were, they might not have died.  If they had decent education on safety at school, they might have worn helmets.  I'm not sure how that can't be seen as a positive thing.  🤷‍♂️

Presuming much . Beyond presumption is some prat traveling in the wrong direction who even if had been "educated" was very obviously ignoring responsibility due to alcohol intoxication and killed two people!

Real blame need be attributed correctly rather than to accommodate drunk drivers !

[CanadaSam]

 

I am SO confused by this image, I am not a forensic investigator, but my eyes show me the motorcycle on the left, where it should be, it also shows it being dragged or pushed forwards on the left lane, indicating the truck was also in the left lane, and ran them down from behind!  So who was going the wrong way?

[BangkokReady]

16 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Presuming much .

 

No.  Most people don't wear helmets in Thailand.  Particularly youngsters.

 

16 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Beyond presumption is some prat traveling in the wrong direction who even if had been "educated" was very obviously ignoring responsibility due to alcohol intoxication and killed two people!

 

Regardless, if the kids had been wearing helmets, they might have lived.

 

16 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Real blame need be attributed correctly rather than to accommodate drunk drivers !

 

He has most of the blame, sure, but if people aren't wearing helmets, and are involved in incidents where a helmet could have saved their lives, they are partly to blame for their death.  It's the law, and it's common sense.

[Georgealbert]

1 hour ago, CanadaSam said:

 

I am SO confused by this image, I am not a forensic investigator, but my eyes show me the motorcycle on the left, where it should be, it also shows it being dragged or pushed forwards on the left lane, indicating the truck was also in the left lane, and ran them down from behind!  So who was going the wrong way?

I have gone back over all the reports and images from the scene. There were very few good images available when the original post was written. I don’t believe those are scrap marks, just shadows on a poor quality picture. (best that was available at the time).

 

Below are further images, which have become available later, one shows the location of the 2 girls bodies (in the red box) and the other clearly shows no marks on the road beyond the bike. All reports say the pickup was travelling the wrong way against the traffic.

 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

Even walking on the streets in early morning hours...is just too dangerous.

 

This is the time when most drunks are out and about.

 

Couple of weeks ago, I saw a drunk drive his truck/car into the back of a cement truck.

Haha...I was SOOOOO Happy to see that!

 

The drunk guy did not even touch his brakes.

He just drove steadily into the back of the cement truck, which stopped him cold.

 

What a nitwit.

 

Anyway, I do not walk on the roads during such dangerous hours.

 

And, one must be cautious anytime one goes walking along the roads...because.....

So many here are drunk all the time....

They drink a lot of those alcohol-laced vitamin drinks...before going out on the job.

 

NITWITS....

 

Who lives like that....who has any real hope in life?

 

This same thing goes on in Taiwan, too, among workers/laborers/ truck drivers....

 

The lack of education is APPALLING.....!

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, CanadaSam said:

 

I am SO confused by this image, I am not a forensic investigator, but my eyes show me the motorcycle on the left, where it should be, it also shows it being dragged or pushed forwards on the left lane, indicating the truck was also in the left lane, and ran them down from behind!  So who was going the wrong way?

 

The drunk in the Truck - as per the report.

 

But, I'm not sure what you mean where you have tried to highlight that the motorcycle was dragged or pushed forwards on the left lane...   I'm not sure the photo clearly shows that there are any road gouges / scrapings etc which indicate direction or area of impact.

 

The truck has clearly been moved after impact to the side of the road, whereas the bike seems to have remained unmoved. 

 

 

From the photo itself, and the actual report - it seems the girls were riding the left most or middle lane...  and they were hit head on by the drunk pickup driver... 

[Stargeezr]

Yes the picture shows the pickup in the wrong direction.  I feel so sorry for the

parents, relatives, and friends of those two 14 year old girls losing their lives to another drunk

driver. i hope he has to pay all the expenses for those girls funerals, and has to spend many years in jail as

well.

[theblether]

On 10/7/2024 at 5:44 AM, FruitPudding said:

 

Firstly, what were two 14 year old girls doing out at that time?? Maybe making some income for their parents 🤔 

 

Secondly,  taxis are easy to get in Thailand and always have been affordable. Easier than ever now with apps, such as Grab and Bolt. 

 

Thirdly, risking your life - or your child's life - for convenience is not worth it.

 

Those poor girls should never have been in that situation. 

 

Why are you are you arguing with me? I have no idea why two 14 year olds were on the streets at 5am, maybe they were heading to the market to help their families? 

 

But I do know is that it takes a special kind of dumb to post "taxis are plentiful" on a topic where the OP states the kids ran out of fuel and had to summon help. 

 

By the way - there are zero taxis or tuk-tuks in my village, not a single one. 

 

Nada, zilch.

[theblether]

On 10/7/2024 at 5:28 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Some???

 

I was trying to be nice but I must say threads like this show there's something fundamentally evil within the expatriate community. 

 

And that's not an exaggeration. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

13 hours ago, theblether said:

I was trying to be nice but I must say threads like this show there's something fundamentally evil within the expatriate community. 

And that's not an exaggeration. 

I'll be blunt and 'not nice', and say it.

Yes it is not an exaggeration and that is why I usually avoid other Expats.

In my experience, most of those I have got to know, I did not want to know. and I dont know now.

 

But it depends on where they are a lot, in terms of what sort of nutter they are.

Many of those that live/reside in the tourism/bar-girl areas, are very strange and/or 'damaged'.

Many of those that reside in the bush/remote areas, are lunatics that have 'gone feral' (some even think they are 'Thai').

 

[seajae]

On 10/7/2024 at 10:08 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I can see what you are saying might make a difference - but I think the heat/humidity here and the long distances for many kids, would make that not a great solution. Plus from what I have seen, the majority of deaths/accidents are not the rider's fault - like in this one.  If I could do one thing, it would be to make them all wear helmets - the laws are there, but policing is just not done as we know. I used to think costs were the problem - but that is BS - they spend more money on a phone than what a helmet would cost. 

sorry but you are wrong, where I grew up summer temps were in the high 90's/low 100's(F), I would ride over 3 miles to get to school, some friends rode even further, weekends we would ride  10 to 15 miles to go fishing or out to the bush, city centre was 4 plus miles, we would even walk it at times or take the bus, winters were extreme cold temps with pouring rain/frosts and we still did it. Thai kids are basically lazy, they do not want to do anything too physical plus they want to be able to do what ever they like. Thai parenting is a big part of the problem as many thai parents dont really care what their kids do, there was no way our parents would let us ride motor bikes in the streets/to school etc let alone be out at all hours of the night like here. 

Parenting needs a huge upgrade in Thailand as a lot of what happens is due to it being extremely poor which is a part of being a third world country, education levels are very bad and I cannot see any of it improving any time soon. Thailand for me is a great place to live but I accept the faults and live my own life away from all the BS and will not candy coat what happens here, Unfortunately these 2 deaths will do nothing to improve anything nor will the drunk drivers action as the police simply refuse to do their work properly and patrol roads etc because they get no extra financial reward for it, they even refuse to come out to do their jobs of a night unless you pay them, policing & parenting have a lot to answer for here.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

3 hours ago, seajae said:

sorry but you are wrong, where I grew up summer temps were in the high 90's/low 100's(F), I would ride over 3 miles to get to school, some friends rode even further, weekends we would ride  10 to 15 miles to go fishing or out to the bush, city centre was 4 plus miles, we would even walk it at times or take the bus, winters were extreme cold temps with pouring rain/frosts and we still did it. Thai kids are basically lazy, they do not want to do anything too physical plus they want to be able to do what ever they like. Thai parenting is a big part of the problem as many thai parents dont really care what their kids do, there was no way our parents would let us ride motor bikes in the streets/to school etc let alone be out at all hours of the night like here. 

Parenting needs a huge upgrade in Thailand as a lot of what happens is due to it being extremely poor which is a part of being a third world country, education levels are very bad and I cannot see any of it improving any time soon. Thailand for me is a great place to live but I accept the faults and live my own life away from all the BS and will not candy coat what happens here, Unfortunately these 2 deaths will do nothing to improve anything nor will the drunk drivers action as the police simply refuse to do their work properly and patrol roads etc because they get no extra financial reward for it, they even refuse to come out to do their jobs of a night unless you pay them, policing & parenting have a lot to answer for here.

Maybe - but maybe you are wrong.

We western raised kids did things for a long time, that are just not done today in the west anymore. That includes riding a bike to school for long distances in bad weather. 

I agree the policing situation could be much better - but as already explained they have to pay for things like that themselves - what policeman is going to spend his salary on petrol and a car to patrol the roads? 

Like you I take it as it is - but I dont think they are 'bad' - it is just the way it is here - and it will not change for a long time. 

[MikeandDow]

2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Maybe - but maybe you are wrong.

We western raised kids did things for a long time, that are just not done today in the west anymore. That includes riding a bike to school for long distances in bad weather. 

I agree the policing situation could be much better - but as already explained they have to pay for things like that themselves - what policeman is going to spend his salary on petrol and a car to patrol the roads? 

Like you I take it as it is - but I dont think they are 'bad' - it is just the way it is here - and it will not change for a long time. 

 total agree The policing in Thailand needs to be Improved getting bad press about corruption does not help  over the years i have met some great police and call them my friend would do any to help and they have  but the expats on here do not help  but you are right Thailand badly needs police reform