1 hour ago, MangoKorat said:

 

 

Knowing what I know now, would I do the same again? No I wouldn't - I simply wouldn't try to have a serious relationship with any girl 10,000km away.

 

 

I still can't get over that story. But the thing is this can happen whilst you live in the same country and in the same house. So yes, being so far away can be a factor, but ultimately a woman who cheats decides to cheat herself.

 

Whether you are far away, psychologically not invested enough, or emotionally, well, girls just want to have fun happens in all distances.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

What exactly do you mean by "invest emotionally"?

Well, I just got contacted by a girl I knew many years ago.

 

She hits me up with "one of my dogs died". And now she's grieving the loss of that dog.

 

But it's not about the dog. It's about "feelings". She's drawing me in to her emotions. 

 

I know I need to be prepared to sympathize for months on end for this dog.

And this girl seems like a very emotionally complex woman who will hit me up with endless stuff like this. 

 

If you act like the soccer or football or whatever sport you watch is more important than her "feelings", she will cheat on you to get revenge. 

 

Women are all about emotions. AND some bling, of course. 

 

I have limited experience because I'm not looking for a girlfriend, but the two I've had 19, 21 were very loyal, could tell they really liked me, that's the key. Girls are not interested in other men if they're are happy with you

My one was/is 100% loyal. 

 

But this "survey" doen't make much sense. Becuause if 9 of 10 are in one way, that doesn't mean that your one is the 1 out of 10.

11 hours ago, G_Money said:

How long is a piece of string.

 

So many factors it’s a case by case basis.

 

Does the man resemble Brad Pitt or a Soi Bukow mouth breather.

 

Does the man have decent income and generous or a Cheap Charlie so tight he squeaks when walking.

 

Doe the man dress smart or like a slob.  Ditto for personal hygiene.

 

Is the man a jealous control freak, texting her every 10 minutes.

 

Is the man faithful to her.

 

Is the man a jerk.

 

Impossible to categorize all.

 

But even if the man answers all above in the "right" way, that still doesn't mean that she won't cheat.

And the reverse for the reverse. 

 

42 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

But even if the man answers all above in the "right" way, that still doesn't mean that she won't cheat.

And the reverse for the reverse. 

 

True.

 

That is why it’s best not to have expectations of faithfulness.

 

Hard for the hopeless romantics but easy for the realists.

 

 

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Well, I just got contacted by a girl I knew many years ago.

 

She hits me up with "one of my dogs died". And now she's grieving the loss of that dog.

 

But it's not about the dog. It's about "feelings". She's drawing me in to her emotions. 

 

I know I need to be prepared to sympathize for months on end for this dog.

And this girl seems like a very emotionally complex woman who will hit me up with endless stuff like this. 

 

If you act like the soccer or football or whatever sport you watch is more important than her "feelings", she will cheat on you to get revenge. 

 

Women are all about emotions. AND some bling, of course. 

 

 

Interesting point, so you mean to participate in her emotions. Everyone likes empathy I suppose. If you focus on this you could eliminate this one reason. The problem is there are many other reasons why she could choose to cheat. Some are wholly unconnected with you, like if she had poor parenting and saw her aprents break up, if she just does not value relationships or loyalty. None of these can be impacted by your behaviour.

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I have limited experience because I'm not looking for a girlfriend, but the two I've had 19, 21 were very loyal, could tell they really liked me, that's the key. Girls are not interested in other men if they're are happy with you

 

I think that's correct. If a girl feels like you are her best, what she really wants, then she will not cheat. If a girl cheats it's basically her saying I want DNA from this other guy, not from you. It shows she does not rate you highly, but instead wants someone better.

 

Unless she just enjoys the thrills of new relationships. If she's a new relationship junike she may well cheat even if she is into you, what do you think?

 

How long were you with the 19 and 21 year olds? Why did it end?

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

My one was/is 100% loyal. 

 

But this "survey" doen't make much sense. Becuause if 9 of 10 are in one way, that doesn't mean that your one is the 1 out of 10.

 

It's certainly true not all women are the same. There are billions of women. How could they be all the same, it's not possible.

 

My motivation was really seeing how Thai women get a bad rap, that article saying Thai women are the second most likely women to cheat, after Nigeria. I just was curious if guys who dated younger attractive Thai women in long term relationships exceeding one year, had this experience or not. Just an empirical sampling of the narrative, so to speak.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

I think that's correct. If a girl feels like you are her best, what she really wants, then she will not cheat. If a girl cheats it's basically her saying I want DNA from this other guy, not from you. It shows she does not rate you highly, but instead wants someone better.

 

Unless she just enjoys the thrills of new relationships. If she's a new relationship junike she may well cheat even if she is into you, what do you think?

 

How long were you with the 19 and 21 year olds? Why did it end?

only a few months before i ended them, they kinda initiated moving in. The problem guys have is if you get a fake girlfriend i.e. paying, she'll be fake

11 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

only a few months before i ended them, they kinda initiated moving in. The problem guys have is if you get a fake girlfriend i.e. paying, she'll be fake

 

Would the counterargument not be that in 1 or 2 months girls can still hide who they really are, so you always see a fake girl, but never the real girl?

 

 

33 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Would the counterargument not be that in 1 or 2 months girls can still hide who they really are, so you always see a fake girl, but never the real girl?

 

 

If you aren't paying them you know they are real, the more you pay the more they dislike you

Does anybody else here realize how perfect this scene is? It's a masterpiece. Everything is perfect.

 

14 hours ago, Cameroni said:

That's very interesting. So both at the higher end when they proved to be faithful. Could be that by age 30 a woman has gone through the stage of party experiments and learnt that these are not welcome or forgiven by a man in a relationship? Hence by age 30 they are more likely to be faithful? Or ist that nonsense?

It is personality, culture and experiences that makes them what they are.

 

Like Scuba have his experiences,  and avoid close relations with people, and have one single minded opinion on relationships. 

 

If you meet a potential girl, and you learn to know her family and friends,  as well her neighbors and neighborhood, you might know who she is. 

 

If a good family including sisters, brothers, aunts and Uncles, she might be a good girl who had positive influence on her. Same with the neighborhood. 

 

If she talks bad about family and her friends, telling stories about them being unfaithful, drunk, drugs it useally tells alot about her. 

 

Most know before they go in to a relationship, and if you are unsure, you are sure.

 

To many gives second chances in hope things will change. 

 

However maturity is not a bad thing always

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

It is personality, culture and experiences that makes them.that way.

 

Like Scuba have his experiences and avoid close relations with people, and have one single minded opinion on relationships. 

 

If you meet a potential girl, and you learn to know her family and friends as well her neighbors a d neighborhood, you might know who she is. 

 

If a good family including sisters, brothers, aunts and Uncles, she might be a good girl who had positive influence on her. Same with the neighborhood. 

 

If she talks bad about family, her friends telling stories about them being unfaithful, drunk, drugs it useally tells alot about her. 

 

Most know before they go in to a relationship, and if you are unsure, you are sure.

 

 

 

Yes it is, I agree.

 

The thing is you can learn about the parents, friends, even past history with guys, and you may not hear anything that is a real red flag. She may not be a drunk or a drug user and has no history of being unfaithful. But even if that is the case, she can still decide to cheat. She may just like the thrill of a meet up, a new relationship, she may just like sex.

 

You cannot truly predict if a girl will or will not cheat. This is the crux of the matter. 

24 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

Does anybody else here realize how perfect this scene is? It's a masterpiece. Everything is perfect.

 

What's the link with Thai girls 18-32 being trustworthy? do you have cabin fever?

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes it is, I agree.

 

The thing is you can learn about the parents, friends, even past history with guys, and you may not hear anything that is a real red flag. She may not be a drunk or a drug user and has no history of being unfaithful. But even if that is the case, she can still decide to cheat. She may just like the thrill of a meet up, a new relationship, she may just like sex.

 

You cannot truly predict if a girl will or will not cheat. This is the crux of the matter. 

You can make your chances a bit better! And as said, you will know if it happens, if you really pay attention. Most somehow keeps their pink tinted sun glasses handed over a Suvarnabhumi to long, and even the signs is there, they completely ignores it. 

 

Very few girls are that good at hiding things.

 

And even easier today with all the social apps and media and most is online 24/7.

 

Before it was easier to excuse they where "offline" because of battery, black out because of weather, and went places without any network. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes it is, I agree.

 

The thing is you can learn about the parents, friends, even past history with guys, and you may not hear anything that is a real red flag. She may not be a drunk or a drug user and has no history of being unfaithful. But even if that is the case, she can still decide to cheat. She may just like the thrill of a meet up, a new relationship, she may just like sex.

 

You cannot truly predict if a girl will or will not cheat. This is the crux of the matter. 

Just run any potential new girlfriends by me, my advice is golden

17 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You can make your chances a bit better! And as said, you will know if it happens, if you really pay attention. Most somehow keeps their pink tinted sun glasses handed over a Suvarnabhumi to long, and even the signs is there, they completely ignores it. 

 

Very few girls are that good at hiding things.

 

And even easier today with all the social apps and media and most is online 24/7.

 

Before it was easier to excuse they where "offline" because of battery, black out because of weather, and went places without any network. 

 

 

 

Yes, you can make your chances slightly better by not going for a drunk, druggie, one with a previous history of cheating etc, but let's say a girl does get hit up in DMs by a guy where she thinks "hmmm, he looks hot" and she decides to cheat. Then all the precautions are for nought, and precisely because of social media apps and messengers, dating apps and all that, it is now much, much easier for the girls to do it and to hide it. 

 

Yes, you would notice if, say she says she has to go on a trip to her village to see her parents and then does not text you or call you. But often before that there may not be any signs, indeed the relationship may have been fine. She just wants adventure and a thrill. 

 

 

14 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Just run any potential new girlfriends by me, my advice is golden

 

Yes, and you're incredibly trustworthy which is the most important.

16 hours ago, G_Money said:

How long is a piece of string.

 

So many factors it’s a case by case basis.

 

Does the man resemble Brad Pitt or a Soi Bukow mouth breather.

 

Does the man have decent income and generous or a Cheap Charlie so tight he squeaks when walking.

 

Doe the man dress smart or like a slob.  Ditto for personal hygiene.

 

Is the man a jealous control freak, texting her every 10 minutes.

 

Is the man faithful to her.

 

Is the man a jerk.

 

Impossible to categorize all.

There are absolutely no excuses for either a man or a woman to cheat. If you don't like who you are with, leave. Cheating while you're still together is the most underhanded, low thing a person can do to another. Attraction brings most people together, besides the gold diggers who will have sex with anything for enough cash. A normal woman or man will not cheat. Attraction doesn't keep people together. Some use the excuse of losing financial if they leave so cheat and stay. Still a lowlife. You get with someone, you either stay or leave. If you don't like what they've become or they didn't show the real them in the beginning, you leave. If you want someone to stay, treat them as you did in the beginning, and this goes both ways.

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

There are absolutely no excuses for either a man or a woman to cheat. If you don't like who you are with, leave. Cheating while you're still together is the most underhanded, low thing a person can do to another. Attraction brings most people together, besides the gold diggers who will have sex with anything for enough cash. A normal woman or man will not cheat. Attraction doesn't keep people together. Some use the excuse of losing financial if they leave so cheat and stay. Still a lowlife. You get with someone, you either stay or leave. If you don't like what they've become or they didn't show the real them in the beginning, you leave. If you want someone to stay, treat them as you did in the beginning, and this goes both ways.

 

I have to say it is quite a jump from the playing around, putting up a profile on a dating app, writing with people, and then taking the step of meeting secretly and actually cheating on a partner. It shows a lack of respect for the partner, not just attraction to others, almost criminal energy and of course extreme selfishness.

 

I am really wondering how rare or common it is. It seems to be fairly common.

 

There are people who are fundamentally and malevolently unreliable, dishonest, underhand and selfish.

 

However, decent people, I think, can also be tempted to cheat, out of boredom, looking for a thrill.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I have to say it is quite a jump from the playing around, putting up a profile on a dating app, writing with people, and then taking the step of meeting secretly and actually cheating on a partner. It shows a lack of respect for the partner, not just attraction to others, almost criminal energy and of course extreme selfishness.

 

I am really wondering how rare or common it is. It seems to be fairly common.

 

There are people who are fundamentally and malevolently unreliable, dishonest, underhand and selfish.

 

However, decent people, I think, can also be tempted to cheat, out of boredom, looking for a thrill.

I've kinda concluded the secret to a happy marriage is a bit on the side, the alternative is guys feeling frustrated and eventually leaving for someone new

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

I've kinda concluded the secret to a happy marriage is a bit on the side, the alternative is guys feeling frustrated and eventually leaving for someone new

 

It's almost necessary to have "insurance" in Thailand, to have 3 or 4 girls in the background, since the chances of her up and running seems so high.

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

I've kinda concluded the secret to a happy marriage is a bit on the side, the alternative is guys feeling frustrated and eventually leaving for someone new

Cheating doesn't make a relationship better. Deception ruins all relationships in time. Only a narcissist can stay in a relationship because their deal is always using. And a narcissist is always found out, although sometimes late, after you've given them everything and kids are born. People who are really happy in relationships aren't unrealistic in what they need or want, don't for any reason abuse, cheat or neglect their partner, and be a team together, tackling problems together until, you find a way to put them behind the both of you. Communication is necessary if both are to be happy. You give a woman your ear, she will give you her body.

30 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, you can make your chances slightly better by not going for a drunk, druggie, one with a previous history of cheating etc, but let's say a girl does get hit up in DMs by a guy where she thinks "hmmm, he looks hot" and she decides to cheat. Then all the precautions are for nought, and precisely because of social media apps and messengers, dating apps and all that, it is now much, much easier for the girls to do it and to hide it. 

 

Yes, you would notice if, say she says she has to go on a trip to her village to see her parents and then does not text you or call you. But often before that there may not be any signs, indeed the relationship may have been fine. She just wants adventure and a thrill. 

 

 

Everyone has to take their chances, and decide what problems they want to have in their life. Being afraid of wife cheating is not one of them for me. 

 

Some manifest their worst nightmares by cultivating their fears to the extend of self manifestation. 

 

What if a comet lands in your backyard tomorow, we know it will happen sooner or later? 

 

I think most do not trust themselves if a hot babe suddenly where available and interested with wife miles away, and very little risk to be caught.

 

I know what I would had done, what about you? 

Just now, Hummin said:

Everyone has to take their chances, and decide what problems they want to have in their life. Being afraid of wife cheating is not one of them for me. 

 

Some manifest their worst nightmares by cultivating their fears to the extend of self manifestation. 

 

What if a comet lands in your backyard tomorow, we know it will happen sooner or later? 

 

I think most do not trust themselves if a hot babe suddenly where available and interested with wife miles away, and very little risk to be caught.

 

I know what I would had done, what about you? 

There are untold thousands of beautiful women here who look at foreigners as a future plan. This makes them easy targets for those who look at women as objects to use. A decent looking man who dresses well and doesn't come across as a creepy player can get all he needs here very easily. A man who looks at a woman as a person won't cheat on her for any reason. if you want to play the field, you say that from the start, letting them know they can do the same. If you want monogamy, you also say it from the start, and give them the same in return. There isn't any reason I would ever cheat on my girlfriend. If I wanted someone else, I would leave. No need to hurt them any more. No matter what anyone does to you, as far as cheating, there isn't a need for revenge. They'll get theirs someday.

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Everyone has to take their chances, and decide what problems they want to have in their life. Being afraid of wife cheating is not one of them for me. 

 

Some manifest their worst nightmares by cultivating their fears to the extend of self manifestation. 

 

What if a comet lands in your backyard tomorow, we know it will happen sooner or later? 

 

I think most do not trust themselves if a hot babe suddenly where available and interested with wife miles away, and very little risk to be caught.

 

I know what I would had done, what about you? 

 

And that is exactly what you do. You roll the dice. If you happen to get a fundamentally and malevolently untrustworthy partner, there is nothing you can do.

 

There is of course an element of truth to this notion that you can take the fear  too far.But you have to be aware of the risk.

 

I normally have the hot babe with me, it's when she want to go miles away that the trouble starts. Let's be realistic, it is easy for women to get guys to sleep with them, if they're hot. Women are like rock stars if they''re attractive. For us guys, even if we have a pretty face, it is inordinately difficult to get laid, it's hard. So the odds of a hot babe suddenly showing interest in you are quite low, but the odds of your hot babe gf fornicating with another guy are fairly high.

 

 

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

There are untold thousands of beautiful women here who look at foreigners as a future plan. This makes them easy targets for those who look at women as objects to use. A decent looking man who dresses well and doesn't come across as a creepy player can get all he needs here very easily. A man who looks at a woman as a person won't cheat on her for any reason. if you want to play the field, you say that from the start, letting them know they can do the same. If you want monogamy, you also say it from the start, and give them the same in return. There isn't any reason I would ever cheat on my girlfriend. If I wanted someone else, I would leave. No need to hurt them any more. No matter what anyone does to you, as far as cheating, there isn't a need for revenge. They'll get theirs someday.

I would be careful to be to sure, I know the reality I have to deal with, but I do not let that ruin my happiness. 

 

There is always a middle way. 

 

If my wife was jealous and made my day a living hell, bitchy, nagging and did not appeal to me sexually, or me the other way around, you finely get what you deserve one way or the other.

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

And that is exactly what you do. You roll the dice. If you happen to get a fundamentally and malevolently untrustworthy partner, there is nothing you can do.

 

There is of course an element of truth to this notion that you can take the fear  too far.But you have to be aware of the risk.

 

I normally have the hot babe with me, it's when she want to go miles away that the trouble starts. Let's be realistic, it is easy for women to get guys to sleep with them, if they're hot. Women are like rock stars if they''re attractive. For us guys, even if we have a pretty face, it is inordinately difficult to get laid, it's hard. So the odds of a hot babe suddenly showing interest in you are quite low, but the odds of your hot babe gf fornicating with another guy are fairly high.

 

 

At least you speak your mind, I salute you for that.

 

One thing is clear, if she comes home with a std, it is over, but again, that's noe likely, and not something I gamble on.