On 10/18/2024 at 11:50 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Not at all. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

You know who you are in the reflection of others.

 

Without a relationship, and indeed above all the failed relationships, you would not be able to develop and learn about yourself in the same way.

 

Sure there are some dudes, for whom a 4 girl rotation is a lifestyle. But even Andrew Tate has long term relationships, most men enjoy the company of women long term.

On 10/18/2024 at 10:49 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps you didn't mention it, but people being fundamentally unfair usually call a female that has multiple partners a slut, while giving men a pass for being sluts.

Not perhaps - definitely not. I am not one of the people you mention.

On 10/18/2024 at 10:49 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't, but by that criteria I was a slut too, not that it worries me what people think. If I could I'd be the biggest slut on the planet, but that is something no longer possible for myself, thanks to prostate cancer.

As a prostate cancer survivor myself, I know exactly what you mean - which is why I opted not to have surgery.  It hasn't been easy and it took a long time with much perseverence but I'm 'fully functioning' again now.  There is a fix available now - even for those with total ED.

On 10/18/2024 at 10:43 AM, Cameroni said:

Ooooooh...

 

Controversial.

I don't find it controversial at all.  After several failed attempts at relationships and listening to wives and husbands complain about their spouse, I took the decision to give up on finding a full time partner.  Once you realise that you can live alone, you start to see just how many positives there are to the 'single life'.

 

The hard part is finding 'partners' that are not looking for a serious relationship without lying to them - hard if you don't want to pay every time.

10 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

I don't find it controversial at all.  After several failed attempts at relationships and listening to wives and husbands complain about their spouse, I took the decision to give up on finding a full time partner.  Once you realise that you can live alone, you start to see just how many positives there are to the 'single life'.

 

The hard part is finding 'partners' that are not looking for a serious relationship without lying to them - hard if you don't want to pay every time.

 

I can definitely see why someone could take that decision, with the prevalence of cheating amon the human animal. We are not designed for real monogamy. And it is undoubtedly getting ever harder to maintain relationships long term.

 

Yes, there are advantages to the single life. However, I say "controversial" because even people like Andrew Tate have long term relationships. Only a very small group of men are able to have short term relationships and see that as satisfactory.

 

The company of women in daily life is so pleasant and useful, if it is the right partner, that to forego that, most men don't really want to do that.

 

But yes, times are changing. Before people split because they were unhappy, now because they can happiER. Very attractive women can order guys off dating apps like men order Pizza.

 

In the old Soviet Union the divorce rate was 70% or something crazy high. Some said that was because there was economic parity in the USSR between men and women, so marriages were all about emotions. And women initiated divorces in droves, like I said 70%, because they were emotionally unfulfilled.

 

However, in Thailand were there is great disparity between the sexes in terms of economics the divorce rate was only 27% in 2006, but jumped up to 39% in  2016 and will no doubt increase further. This does of course not suggest that relationships are easier in Thailand or that Thai women are more faithful. Quite the opposite, stats say they cheat more than almost any other country. However, both parties in Thailand may be more amenable to forgive an incident of cheating.

 

It does seem if you add in a car, economic equality and opportunity, the chances of a woman cheating increases dramatically.

On 10/14/2024 at 9:29 PM, save the frogs said:

Women need financial security

.. and most men when able to give them this. Buy why be such a simp? If she is aged 18 to 32 wouldn't you want a girl who at least has an income? That can take care of herself. This rubbish about all they have left is bring a bar girl is a big lie. Those girls are simply lazy. The money is far easier in a bar. 

 

Many men today are really dumb and women are laughing all the way to the bank. 

19 minutes ago, 1happykamper said:

.. and most men when able to give them this. Buy why be such a simp? If she is aged 18 to 32 wouldn't you want a girl who at least has an income? That can take care of herself. This rubbish about all they have left is bring a bar girl is a big lie. Those girls are simply lazy. The money is far easier in a bar. 

 

Many men today are really dumb and women are laughing all the way to the bank. 

 

A lot of these young girls are lazy. Because they are extremely good looking, so everyone is falling overthemselves, not just to tell them how wonderful they are but also to give them whatever they need, money, tickets, phones, 5 star resorts.  These girls have been to more 5 star resorts than most lawyers.

 

In Thailand I think an extremely good looking girl that takes care of herself, is like finding a 6 leaf clover.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

A lot of these young girls are lazy. Because they are extremely good looking, so everyone is falling overthemselves, not just to tell them how wonderful they are but also to give them whatever they need, money, tickets, phones, 5 star resorts.  These girls have been to more 5 star resorts than most lawyers.

 

In Thailand I think an extremely good looking girl that takes care of herself, is like finding a 6 leaf clover.

Exactly. So many women here (especially) are relying on their body as a meal ticket. That body will age. A beautiful young body, in my eyes, has a rapidly declining asset value 555. 

 

An average looking girl... With a curiosity for life appreciates in value.. especially if she learns English and develops skill sets out of the bed too 

On 10/15/2024 at 10:23 AM, Cameroni said:

 

I think that's correct. If a girl feels like you are her best, what she really wants, then she will not cheat. If a girl cheats it's basically her saying I want DNA from this other guy, not from you. It shows she does not rate you highly, but instead wants someone better.

 

Unless she just enjoys the thrills of new relationships. If she's a new relationship junike she may well cheat even if she is into you, what do you think?

 

How long were you with the 19 and 21 year olds? Why did it end?

One thing many seem to miss or not understand is that Asian women dont have the same view of love or emotional attachment that western men are used to in women. Sex is more a physical response not necessarily an emotional one in many, but not all. The value they place importance on aren't centered around sexual fidelity or even love as western men would recognize. 

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

 

In Thailand I think an extremely good looking girl that takes care of herself, is like finding a 6 leaf clover.

 

You really would not know simply because you do not know any better here in Thailand.

 

I will leave it to my Nemesis Marin to put you straight on this subject.

 

 

On 10/15/2024 at 6:50 PM, Cameroni said:

 

When I was confronted with the brutal reality that my Filipina Angel was a serial dating cheating semi prostitute in 2018 it was worse than anything I had experienced in inter-human relationships. I met her when she was 24. One of the constant issues was her Danish ex and her constantly writing behind my back. So after that ended I had thought about things, and I concluded that it would be far preferable to date 18 to 24 year olds who'd had very  few boyfriends. Just so I would not have to deal with the baggage of the ex boyfriends, plus of course women peak at 18 physically. 

 

But unfortunately you may have a point, 18 and 24 year olds do not seem to have the maturity to be loyal, or rather, they want to "explore their options".

 

The reason why people marry around 29 is that it is just one year before the male reaches his maximum earning potential, so women want to lock him in just before.

 

Having said all this, my wife of 20 years whom I met as a 19 year old DID know the value of loyalty. She was always loyal. It was just these three Asian 24 year olds who were not. Maybe it has more to do with Asian girls, than 19 - 24 immaturity.

 

Hard to say. But both girls who brutally cheated on me before were 24 and Asian.

Did you ever consider it might be you and your attitude toward women in general that drove them to look somewhere else? Its pretty obvious by your comments what your view of women is and regardless of what you think they can pick up on it pretty easy and look for the escape door.

40 minutes ago, Dan O said:

One thing many seem to miss or not understand is that Asian women dont have the same view of love or emotional attachment that western men are used to in women. Sex is more a physical response not necessarily an emotional one in many, but not all. The value they place importance on aren't centered around sexual fidelity or even love as western men would recognize. 

 

So you think Thai girls are like Bonobo monkeys just jumping from one sexual encounter to another?

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

So you think Thai girls are like Bonobo monkeys just jumping from one sexual encounter to another?

Nope never said that at all. I think that's something you conjured up from your view of women. 

Not as many smiles as on would think in the Land of Smiles.  Confucius says.

On 10/14/2024 at 3:43 PM, Cameroni said:

 

Surely that is correct, but I was really asking for real life stories that have happened to you. If you have had a rel with a Thai girl aged 18 to 32.

 

Let's do an empirical exercise.

 

I guess that I am one of the few who actually had an eighteen year old Thai girlfriend. A real girlfriend rather than a paid one. But it was volatile. I actually didn't want a Thai girlfriend at all, but I just found myself in that situation. Normally, I might have told my side here just for an interesting story, but I recently reconnected with her a few days ago and we talked about some of the things that happened. So now it doesn't seem right to publish it here.

But in one instance, a fifteen year old girl who worked in the market saw her talking to someone and confronted her, telling her that if she was not serious about me, that she should step aside. I somehow ended up in MK restaurant with the 15/16 year old sitting opposite me, unzipping her top to show some skin and my girlfriend sitting next to her. Girlfriend was steaming. I was totally innocent and had no idea what had happened. A rollercoaster of emotions. Traumatised, it was a almost a relief to break up. Somehow there was always someone waiting in the wings and shortly after, I was back with my German girl....which was another nightmare 😊

 

13 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

I guess that I am one of the few who actually had an eighteen year old Thai girlfriend. A real girlfriend rather than a paid one. But it was volatile. I actually didn't want a Thai girlfriend at all, but I just found myself in that situation. Normally, I might have told my side here just for an interesting story, but I recently reconnected with her a few days ago and we talked about some of the things that happened. So now it doesn't seem right to publish it here.

But in one instance, a fifteen year old girl who worked in the market saw her talking to someone and confronted her, telling her that if she was not serious about me, that she should step aside. I somehow ended up in MK restaurant with the 15/16 year old sitting opposite me, unzipping her top to show some skin and my girlfriend sitting next to her. Girlfriend was steaming. I was totally innocent and had no idea what had happened. A rollercoaster of emotions. Traumatised, it was a almost a relief to break up. Somehow there was always someone waiting in the wings and shortly after, I was back with my German girl....which was another nightmare 😊

 

 

Can you say a little about why it was so volatile?

20 hours ago, Dan O said:

Did you ever consider it might be you and your attitude toward women in general that drove them to look somewhere else? Its pretty obvious by your comments what your view of women is and regardless of what you think they can pick up on it pretty easy and look for the escape door.

 

You do consider if it's you. However, I had a 12 year relationship, then a 20 year relationship with European women. They were loyal. They did not cheat.

 

So no, after consideration, it was not me, it was the Asian girls.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

You do consider if it's you. However, I had a 12 year relationship, then a 20 year relationship with European women. They were loyal. They did not cheat.

 

So no, after consideration, it was not me, it was the Asian girls.

Is that what you tell yourself to make your ego feel better?

 

You are obviously no spring chicken and young thai girls aren't complete morons. If you talk to them with the same view that you post about women then I would put my money on it being you. Why would a young girl of any nationality stay with an old geezer that views women so poorly? 

4 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Is that what you tell yourself to make your ego feel better?

 

You are obviously no spring chicken and young thai girls aren't complete morons. If you talk to them with the same view that you post about women then I would put my money on it being you. Why would a young girl of any nationality stay with an old geezer that views women so poorly? 

 

I'm exceptionally attractive, cultured, intelligent, make good money, it's really inconceivable it's me. See post above.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

I'm exceptionally attractive, cultured, intelligent, make good money, it's really inconceivable it's me. See post above.

Hahaha. Ok you go with that and let us know how it works out for you

Just now, Dan O said:

Hahaha. Ok you go with that and let us know how it works out for you

 

Happy to. 

 

At 53 I'm probably the youngest person on this forum, btw and I look 42. Tops.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Happy to. 

 

At 53 I'm probably the youngest person on this forum, btw and I look 42. Tops.

You're trying awfully hard to convince me or yourself so I would have to question your ego again. You have a good day

On 10/21/2024 at 10:43 AM, Cameroni said:

can definitely see why someone could take that decision, with the prevalence of cheating amon the human animal.

My decision was solely based on previous partners cheating - the fallout from that can be very expensive, both financially and more importantly with regard to lost time. Money, you can generally replace although that may get harder the older you get. Time, is something none of us can replace.

 

For me, there came a point when I just had to make the decision that for whatever reason, relationships weren't working and I wasn't prepared to go through the motions again just to potentially lose even more time.  I must admit that on some occasions I virtually set myself up to fail - its rare for a relationship with a much younger woman to last for example.  Whatever, I decided that I'd lost enough time and a change was necessary.  It took a little getting used to but once I did, I haven't looked back.

 

I didn't want to be one of those who was in a relationship but played around myself - I don't think people should be in a relationship if they are going to do that.

 

The most difficult part is finding short term partners - try putting 'nothing serious' in your profile on a dating application.  All you'll get is girls that failed to read your profile or hookers.  In the West its much easier, there are plenty of girls looking for a 'hook up' - in Thailand they all seem to want a serious relationship - at least that's what they say - even the 'bounty hunters'.

 

Its sometimes easier to pick up a girl for a ONS in a bar or club but my 'clubbing' days are almost over 😁.  Most of those I've met that way were also in a relationship - which adds to my original point.

99% of them are not loyal or trustworthy at any age.

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Happy to. 

 

At 53 I'm probably the youngest person on this forum, btw and I look 42. Tops.

 

What's your secret to looking 10 years younger?

5 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

What's your secret to looking 10 years younger?

Take your glasses off is my guess!

1 hour ago, MangoKorat said:

My decision was solely based on previous partners cheating - the fallout from that can be very expensive, both financially and more importantly with regard to lost time.

 

Not to mention lost worlds you had, past, present and future. Lost identity. Belief. In yourself, In her. It's no fun.

 

3 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

For me, there came a point when I just had to make the decision that for whatever reason, relationships weren't working and I wasn't prepared to go through the motions again just to potentially lose even more time.  I must admit that on some occasions I virtually set myself up to fail - its rare for a relationship with a much younger woman to last for example.  Whatever, I decided that I'd lost enough time and a change was necessary.  It took a little getting used to but once I did, I haven't looked back.

 

They can work, my father married a woman 30 years younger 20 years ago, they're still together. It is disheartening when they keep failing. Of course it's harder with a younger woman.

 

3 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

The most difficult part is finding short term partners - try putting 'nothing serious' in your profile on a dating application.  All you'll get is girls that failed to read your profile or hookers.  In the West its much easier, there are plenty of girls looking for a 'hook up' - in Thailand they all seem to want a serious relationship - at least that's what they say - even the 'bounty hunters'.

 

Getting women to have sex, it's not impossible really, just harder for a guy, but you'll find girls who are up for it I'm sure. Honesty, in your case, clearly will make it harder. 

 

May I ask when you say "short term", what do you mean exactly, how "short term"?

 

3 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

 

What's your secret to looking 10 years younger?

 

No, secret, just got lucky with genetics. And I didn't kill myself working, smoking or drinking I guess.

A really cute girl at work has been hitting on me for several weeks now.

 

And I have really fallen for her. Sometimes she stares at me intensely for about 30 seconds across the office. It's hard to resist those glances.

 

But she doesn't want to meet outside work. Seems like she is just playing games and trying to get attention from me.

She probably has 1 or 3 other guys on the side.

 

I should have known it was too good to be true since she is too young and way out of my league. But she started hitting on me. 

 

Watch out for those man-eaters, guys. Watch out boy, she'll chew you up. 

 

 

26 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

A really cute girl at work has been hitting on me for several weeks now.

 

And I have really fallen for her. Sometimes she stares at me intensely for about 30 seconds across the office. It's hard to resist those glances.

 

But she doesn't want to meet outside work. Seems like she is just playing games and trying to get attention from me.

She probably has 1 or 3 other guys on the side.

 

I should have known it was too good to be true since she is too young and way out of my league. But she started hitting on me. 

 

Watch out for those man-eaters, guys. Watch out boy, she'll chew you up. 

 

 

The art of knowing the difference of innocent flirting/ joking, and someone hitting on you.